I hope you don't think I am naïve or prudish , but one aspect I have enjoyed out participating in this forum is the non-disclosure of our gender, sexuality or whatever. I feel it would be worth mentioning that as a consequence of that point that we all should be respectful of each other and not let the conversations deteriorate and spiral into gutter talk and boys-room banter. Australia's recent Federal Election has just sent us here in Aus a strong message. Boys, please remember your manners! ,,,,,,,,,I'm a bloke by the way