Yak52 yes it's an absolute disgrace the manipulation that has occurred in the last 2 day lucky I have enough research and confidence in BRN to not have stop loss as I've been caught before in other stocks and had to buy back in at a higher price
The real crunch is in the following:On the topic of ASX Ann's there was definitely a rule change and further scrutiny flagged by the ASX if they saw fit.
The thing for me is that it is still a little grey which allows some companies to meet continuous disclosure but not Ann some things that would actually also inform the mkt via official channels.
Nor a argument here from me but the way I see it is the company can make the Ann's of partnerships and similar so long as not marked price sensitive (likely queried) or the timing isn't fortuitously aligned with something like a cap raise or uses overly exuberant wording to pump it up.
If price sensitive then really needs something material and also potentially revenue generating or formal contract etc.
Personally, I would like the company to not take the easy path and actually make the occasional formal non price sensitive Ann on things like Arm, Nviso & SiFive.
These to me would simply be a statement of fact to "inform" the mkt (as allowed for) that a partnership has been undertaken but no formal contract, licensing, revenue model etc is in place.
The concern would be if there "is" a material contract in behind the partnership that the ASX would possibly require price sensitivity on the Ann and some meat around the contract.
Though there are other rules around what gets disclosed for those details as they can be industry sensitive (margins, fees etc), technology protective and the like
Here is a summary from HerbertSmithFreehills to give a snapshot.
Ramping Reprimand: ASX issues latest disclosure caution
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Listed companies should be aware that “ramping” announcements are on the ASX’s radar. Companies risk suspension from trading if the ASX considers that they have released announcements that are designed to “ramp” up their share price rather than to inform the market.
IN BRIEF
- ASX recently advised that “ramping” announcements are on its radar and that companies making them risk suspension from the ASX.
- “Ramping” announcements are designed to increase a company’s share price, rather than to inform the market. ASX has observed that these types of announcements are often disclosures about customer contracts.
- Companies should be aware that ASX is maintaining its spotlight on the disclosure of customer contracts, following its related guidance issued late last year on this topic.
ASX COMPLIANCE UPDATE
In its recent Compliance Update (Compliance Update No. 07/19), ASX issued a strong caution to listed entities against making announcements it termed “ramping” announcements.
ASX has said that whenever it detects what it suspects to be a “ramping” announcement, it will not hesitate to suspend trading in the entity’s securities and issue a query letter asking the entity to:
In less serious cases, ASX may instead require an entity to publish a corrective announcement highlighting that the information in the “ramping” announcement is not material.
- explain its basis for lodging the announcement – specifically whether it was lodged to meet the company’s continuous obligations under ASX listing rule 3.1 or for some other purpose; and
- identify what information in the announcement is market sensitive and why it is market sensitive.
This most recent ASX compliance update comes off the back of ASX’s focus on improving disclosures relating to customer contracts. ASX issued updated Guidance Note 8 to introduce specific criteria for the disclosure of customer contracts and ASX also issued a compliance update in March 2018, following a number of high profile cases involving companies who issued misleading announcements relating to their customer contracts.
WHAT IS A “RAMPING” ANNOUNCEMENT?
A “ramping” announcement is an announcement that is designed to increase the price of an entity’s securities, rather than to inform the market.
It typically contains exuberant or superlative language and discloses information that has little substance and that is not material to the entity.
ASX noted its observations on the timing and nature of the “ramping” announcements it has detected, indicating that:
ASX’s focus on these kinds of announcements appears to be underpinned by a concern that they are misleading market participants, and may be creating a false market in an entity’s securities.
- some of the announcements seem to be made around the time of a capital raising with the purpose of either supporting the company’s share price ahead of a raising or facilitating a profitable exit for some investors after a raising; and
- the announcements often focused on customer developments or business updates which have minimal substance.
TAKEAWAYS
Listed entities may have a range of reasons for making an ASX announcement, even where the information is not necessarily price sensitive requiring disclosure under their continuous disclosure obligations.
In addition, the question of whether information is price sensitive is not always black and white, with entities often electing to over-disclose, in view of the consequences of breaching their continuous disclosure obligations.
Many of these announcements will have been made for perfectly legitimate reasons, and will continue to be appropriate.
We think the key takeaways are for listed entities to check the following three points before publishing an announcement:
- Language: is the language being used in the announcement appropriate in the context of the information being conveyed – e.g., if marketing style language is being used, is it unnecessarily exuberant?
- Timing: when is the announcement being made? Is there a risk that the ASX could view the timing of the announcement, along with any other planned action by the listed entity, as being deliberately designed to prop up the entity’s share price?
- Customer contracts: if the announcement is in relation to customer contracts, does the announcement comply with the specified criteria in section 4.15 of ASX’s Guidance Note 8?
IN BRIEF
So a company such as Brainchip takes the risk releases on the ASX then retrospectively has the ASX rule on their notice and decide that it is ramping and suspends them. The reason to take the risk being some short term price improvement with a downside of suspension from trading. If they put it up as non price sensitive the MF’s of this world can broadcast to all the world not price sensitive no money in this it is another fluff announcement. Loose, loose, loose every way you look at it. The downside of suspension from trading outweighs a non price sensitive ASX release. I can guarantee that any lawyer would faced with the risk reward involved advise every client not release on ASX make it a press release no downside. Release on the ASX and you could be suspended and shareholders could sue you for negligence. All this lay opinion takes us nowhere. Tony Dawe and the two Australian Directors have recently had a meeting with the head of the ASX trying to get guidance and the response was if you were non compliant we would tell you and until we tell you otherwise you will remain so. No help just we will punish you if you get it wrong. So who here wants the company to risk suspension with their fingers crossed for a short term price movement when a press release is no risk and just like Mercedes Benz non price sensitive announcement can drive the price if the market likes the news. Most ordinary retail have never heard of ARM. The tech savvy will be reading ARM’s Twitter and the technology mags and blogs and understand. My opinion only DYOR FF AKIDA BALLISTA |
Ha, depends on what the SP is at the timeThat's the spirit
Talking about spirit, can you buy me a beer/spirit too?
On the topic of ASX Ann's there was definitely a rule change and further scrutiny flagged by the ASX if they saw fit.
The thing for me is that it is still a little grey which allows some companies to meet continuous disclosure but not Ann some things that would actually also inform the mkt via official channels.
Nor a argument here from me but the way I see it is the company can make the Ann's of partnerships and similar so long as not marked price sensitive (likely queried) or the timing isn't fortuitously aligned with something like a cap raise or uses overly exuberant wording to pump it up.
If price sensitive then really needs something material and also potentially revenue generating or formal contract etc.
Personally, I would like the company to not take the easy path and actually make the occasional formal non price sensitive Ann on things like Arm, Nviso & SiFive.
These to me would simply be a statement of fact to "inform" the mkt (as allowed for) that a partnership has been undertaken but no formal contract, licensing, revenue model etc is in place.
The concern would be if there "is" a material contract in behind the partnership that the ASX would possibly require price sensitivity on the Ann and some meat around the contract.
Though there are other rules around what gets disclosed for those details as they can be industry sensitive (margins, fees etc), technology protective and the like
Here is a summary from HerbertSmithFreehills to give a snapshot.
Ramping Reprimand: ASX issues latest disclosure caution
Listed companies should be aware that “ramping” announcements are on the ASX’s radar. Companies risk suspension from trading if the ASX considers that they have released announcements that are designed to “ramp” up their share price rather than to inform the market.
IN BRIEF
- ASX recently advised that “ramping” announcements are on its radar and that companies making them risk suspension from the ASX.
- “Ramping” announcements are designed to increase a company’s share price, rather than to inform the market. ASX has observed that these types of announcements are often disclosures about customer contracts.
- Companies should be aware that ASX is maintaining its spotlight on the disclosure of customer contracts, following its related guidance issued late last year on this topic.
ASX COMPLIANCE UPDATE
In its recent Compliance Update (Compliance Update No. 07/19), ASX issued a strong caution to listed entities against making announcements it termed “ramping” announcements.
ASX has said that whenever it detects what it suspects to be a “ramping” announcement, it will not hesitate to suspend trading in the entity’s securities and issue a query letter asking the entity to:
In less serious cases, ASX may instead require an entity to publish a corrective announcement highlighting that the information in the “ramping” announcement is not material.
- explain its basis for lodging the announcement – specifically whether it was lodged to meet the company’s continuous obligations under ASX listing rule 3.1 or for some other purpose; and
- identify what information in the announcement is market sensitive and why it is market sensitive.
This most recent ASX compliance update comes off the back of ASX’s focus on improving disclosures relating to customer contracts. ASX issued updated Guidance Note 8 to introduce specific criteria for the disclosure of customer contracts and ASX also issued a compliance update in March 2018, following a number of high profile cases involving companies who issued misleading announcements relating to their customer contracts.
WHAT IS A “RAMPING” ANNOUNCEMENT?
A “ramping” announcement is an announcement that is designed to increase the price of an entity’s securities, rather than to inform the market.
It typically contains exuberant or superlative language and discloses information that has little substance and that is not material to the entity.
ASX noted its observations on the timing and nature of the “ramping” announcements it has detected, indicating that:
ASX’s focus on these kinds of announcements appears to be underpinned by a concern that they are misleading market participants, and may be creating a false market in an entity’s securities.
- some of the announcements seem to be made around the time of a capital raising with the purpose of either supporting the company’s share price ahead of a raising or facilitating a profitable exit for some investors after a raising; and
- the announcements often focused on customer developments or business updates which have minimal substance.
TAKEAWAYS
Listed entities may have a range of reasons for making an ASX announcement, even where the information is not necessarily price sensitive requiring disclosure under their continuous disclosure obligations.
In addition, the question of whether information is price sensitive is not always black and white, with entities often electing to over-disclose, in view of the consequences of breaching their continuous disclosure obligations.
Many of these announcements will have been made for perfectly legitimate reasons, and will continue to be appropriate.
We think the key takeaways are for listed entities to check the following three points before publishing an announcement:
- Language: is the language being used in the announcement appropriate in the context of the information being conveyed – e.g., if marketing style language is being used, is it unnecessarily exuberant?
- Timing: when is the announcement being made? Is there a risk that the ASX could view the timing of the announcement, along with any other planned action by the listed entity, as being deliberately designed to prop up the entity’s share price?
- Customer contracts: if the announcement is in relation to customer contracts, does the announcement comply with the specified criteria in section 4.15 of ASX’s Guidance Note 8?
Rest In Peace to all the children and teachers killed today and nothing can describe my feelings to what happened.
Hence my preface with....still a little grey.
Yes Rise but if you don’t want people playing in your back yard would you if having the ability stop it. Whoever is playing this is making money both ways.Every stock I've owned that has made it to asx 200/300 have initially had the price driven down once being admitted.
I see it as an example of a carrot on a stick, we need to attract and keep the carrot eaters to achieve our goal. No insult intended to the carrot eaters at Brainchip. Eat more carrots and your vision may improve.
But that is the dilemma they face the ASX will not give guidance that is what they were trying to obtain.
Hi JK,
People still use stop loss triggers?
Sorry, I read what you said was the guidance meeting was around being compliant by doing the media releases so as to not run foul of the ASX by not doing formal Ann's?
i have perhaps just one comment to the words here, ... no doubts are rising a couple days of manipulation and perhaps someone wants to offer a takeover but certainly there are no doubts rising.
Sean Hehir described the improvements being made by the so called competitors using CNN as being incremental and even if they achieved 10% incremental improvements they were so far behind as to not touch the current lead.
