BRN Discussion Ongoing

[MadMayHam | 合氣道]

How about we stop saying people's lives don't count. There are no doubt people from Russia or have Russian heritage/families on this forum. Trump is a polarising figure to be sure but he is the only one who has got Putin to the negotiating table. Surely the only thing that matters is peace and the end of bloodshed. Or does it only count if those with your political ideals achieve it?

No matter how touchy feely you are, there is a war bring waged in Europe, where one country has invaded the other's sovereign borders. The two militaries are fighting each other to death, and whether you like it or not, our tech is being used at least on a research level in Ukraine. I can say this with higher confidence than "explosive sales" or "you won't be asking these questions at the next AGM", as miltech is Ukraine's number 1 priority now, and there are many Ukrainian deep tech researchers singing our praises.

Russian pilots and missile technicians, who are mostly part of a professional military, actively target civilian infrastructure and residential buildings every single night. It's kill or be killed, and I'd much rather it be the invader than the defender (conversely made up mostly of conscripts).

The collective West really dropped the ball when it came to defending Ukraine during the initial invasion in 2014, despite the Budapest memorandum assurances. This is also independent of my political convictions, as every country has a right to their territorial sovereignty.

 

[HopalongPetrovski]

How about we stop saying people's lives don't count. There are no doubt people from Russia or have Russian heritage/families on this forum. Trump is a polarising figure to be sure but he is the only one who has got Putin to the negotiating table. Surely the only thing that matters is peace and the end of bloodshed. Or does it only count if those with your political ideals achieve it?

Certainly appreciate your sentiment and thinking here and I doubt anyone with a heart wants the killing to continue but the counter argument swings on the historical record that shows that whilst appeasing an aggressor can bring a short term ceasefire, it can often lead to a longer term, much inflamed situation. Just look back a hundred years or so. These are not easy problems to fix. Humankind have struggled with these issues of dominance for as long as they have existed.
If it comes back to the simple might is right mentality in the time of widespread nuclear proliferation we run the risk of proving out Einsteins prediction that World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.

 

[Rskiff]

Look friend up to 21 century Russia was the no. 1 enemy of US but right now China is only nation who can challenge US. So Trump is working a strategy to defend from China than from Russia now.
In politics you have to make your priorities right otherwise you can be fighting on many fronts which may not be good for the final outcome. Trump is concentrating only to
stop China. So in that theory who is right and who is wrong does not matter at all.
Dyor

China is watching how the US deals with a dictator attacking a sovereign country. This reation would I suggest embolden China to rock into Taiwan as the US will stand back. History sure does look like it repeats, think of Nazi Germany and the response initially from British to trust Hitler not to invade other countries.

 

[Smoothsailing]

China is watching how the US deals with a dictator attacking a sovereign country. This reation would I suggest embolden China to rock into Taiwan as the US will stand back. History sure does look like it repeats, think of Nazi Germany and the response initially from British to trust Hitler not to invade other countries.

That will happen in 2027 ether way as mentioned by china’s head of military

 

[Pom down under]

 

[Slade]

Everyone sees the war differently

 

[Bravo]

This would have been an interesting event to attend.

 

[Rangersman]

No matter how touchy feely you are, there is a war bring waged in Europe, where one country has invaded the others sovereign borders. The two militaries are fighting each other to death, and whether you like it or not, our tech is being used at least on a research level in Ukraine. I can say this with higher confidence than "explosive sales" or "you won't be asking these questions at the next AGM", as miltech is Ukraine's number 1 priority now.

Russian pilots and missile technicians, who are mostly part of a professional military, actively target civilian infrastructure and residential buildings every single night. It's kill or be killed, and I'd much rather it be the invader than the defender (conversely made up mostly of conscripts).

The collective West really dropped the ball when it came to defending Ukraine during the initial invasion in 2014, despite the Budapest memorandum. This is also independent of my political convictions, as every country has a right to their territorial sovereignty.

No matter how touchy feely you are, there is a war bring waged in Europe, where one country has invaded the others sovereign borders. The two militaries are fighting each other to death, and whether you like it or not, our tech is being used at least on a research level in Ukraine. I can say this with higher confidence than "explosive sales" or "you won't be asking these questions at the next AGM", as miltech is Ukraine's number 1 priority now.

Russian pilots and missile technicians, who are mostly part of a professional military, actively target civilian infrastructure and residential buildings every single night. It's kill or be killed, and I'd much rather it be the invader than the defender (conversely made up mostly of conscripts).

The collective West really dropped the ball when it came to defending Ukraine during the initial invasion in 2014, despite the Budapest memorandum. This is also independent of my political convictions, as every country has a right to their territorial sovereignty.

Objecting to this vile comment ' and Russians soldiers don't count ' is not touchy feely mate. I think it is the laughing emoji that is the worst bit. To believe you can laugh at people dying in a forum where for all you know some of us have people we know or family who are Russian and fighting right now. You have no idea and don't seem to care, that is my point.

 

[MadMayHam | 合氣道]

Objecting to this vile comment ' and Russians soldiers don't count ' is not touchy feely mate. I think it is the laughing emoji that is the worst bit. To believe you can laugh at people dying in a forum where for all you know some of us have people we know or family who are Russian and fighting right now. You have no idea and don't seem to care, that is my point.

Instead of a long diatribe, which is not my style, let me ask you a question: Would you sell your shares if AKD ends up in Ukrainian drones?

 

[Rangersman]

Certainly appreciate your sentiment and thinking here and I doubt anyone with a heart wants the killing to continue but the counter argument swings on the historical record that shows that whilst appeasing an aggressor can bring a short term ceasefire, it can often lead to a longer term, much inflamed situation. Just look back a hundred years or so. These are not easy problems to fix. Humankind have struggled with these issues of dominance for as long as they have existed.
If it comes back to the simple might is right mentality in the time of widespread nuclear proliferation we run the risk of proving out Einsteins prediction that World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.

Totally agree. Objecting only to the belief of the poster that comments like these are right and will go unchallenged.

 

[Bravo]

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[Rangersman]

Instead of a long diatribe, which is not my style, let me ask you a question: Would you sell your shares if AKD ends up in Ukrainian drones?

You are a very strange person aren't you? No I wouldn't sell, why would I? My only objection here is your belief Russians dying is funny. Would you sell if BRN tech ends up in Russian drones?

 

[7für7]

You can argue about geopolitical and war-related topics just like you argue every day about whether BrainChip is doing the right thing or not. In the end, you can’t change anything anyway. Instead of being glad that two world powers are getting closer and seeking peace, some people here continue to stir things up.

Europe is about to make another big mistake. Especially Germany… For the third time, they are dreaming of a powerful superstate (the EU) under German leadership. Everyone knows where that has led the last two times with their “leader.”

I’m not worried about Russia or the USA, but rather about the war rhetoric coming from the EU—especially from Germany. I just hope this all comes to an end before they make another mistake.

I’m not pro Russia or pro Ukraine or something.. I want to live in peace that’s all

Just my opinion.

 

[MadMayHam | 合氣道]

You are a very strange person aren't you? No I wouldn't sell, why would I? My only objection here is your belief Russians dying is funny. Would you sell if BRN tech ends up in Russian drones?

Yes I would actually. On the principle of not enabling the aggressor. And I have nothing against Russians, but with Russian soldiers who choose to partake in a war on another country's territory it's another story.

Anyway this is the last I'm posting on this topic, it has gone on too far for my liking.

 

[rgupta]

When king is on stake who cares about pawns here?
Dyor

 

[Mccabe84]

I'm sorry, you don't know what you're talking about. In 1994 USA, Russia, UK and France signed the Budapest memorandum ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum) with Ukraine guaranteeing its security while they gave up all their nuclear weapons(which was a fantastic outcome for the world) but Russia invaded in 2014 taking Crimea even shooting down https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17. Trump was also President during 2016 through 2020 still while Russia was breaking ceasefires and he didn't do a thing. Sure both sides of the aisle in USA are at fault.

This agreement doesn't say it will defend ukraine if its attacked it just says it will respect its borders doesnt it ?

 

[Rskiff]

This agreement doesn't say it will defend ukraine if its attacked it just says it will respect its borders doesnt it ?

read link

 

[Smoothsailing]

Arm

 

[Mccabe84]

read link

It says security assurances to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine. Not defend in a war. Also says it will seek united nations security council to provide assistance to ukraine. I cant see anywhere where it says the USA has to defend ukraine in war.. anyway that's enough about war as it never ends.

 

[Rodney]

I'm sorry, but you have no idea of what is required for Peace.

Biden's weakness and poor diplomacy skills, is why the Ukraine is in this predicament in the first place.

Really and here’s me thinking that Ukraine is in this position because Russia invaded Ukraine.
It’s pretty simple and now we have Trump ready to change the world order. Be careful what you wish for.
Putin + Trump = Hell.