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This is a bit like comparing McLaren and Hyundai
@uiux

Hi UiUx,

Espacenet has 20 patent applications which refer to DeepSeek. They are all Chinese.

The earliest is from 20200325.

CN118132969A Table data processing large language model training method and device, medium and equipment 20200325

With the advent of the digital age, a large amount of data is structured in tabular form and is widely used in various industries and fields. From transaction monitoring in the banking industry to human resource management to census in government agencies, tabular data plays an irreplaceable role in modern society. Although tabular data is ubiquitous, specific tasks related to tables are usually time-consuming and labor-intensive and require professional skills. Automating these tabular tasks is of great significance to both academia and industry, and has attracted the attention of many researchers.
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The present invention believes that expanding the reasoning process of short answers to training data can enhance the reasoning ability of large language models. Since WikiTQ and FeTaQA only provide raw table data and do not involve text information, in order to simulate the office scene of mixed text and tables in the real world, the present invention also uses GPT-3.5 to supplement the table description information.

In some embodiments, the length of the document embedding table is less than 500 tokens.

Since the answers in the training data are presented in text form, the solution of question-answer pairs is achieved through the internal parameter-driven method of the model. In connection with the form tasks in office scenarios, a constraint of less than 500 tokens is imposed on the form input in this way to ensure that the model can more accurately build the connection between questions and answers.

Since data operations on tables embedded in spreadsheets mainly involve simple table input and complex table operations, such tasks are more suitable for solving in a code-driven way. In combination with the characteristics of WikiSQL and Spider training sets corresponding to SQL queries, this example selects training data from them, and optionally expands the reasoning process of question-answer pairs into Pandas code form, for example, through the Deepseek large language model to ensure flexibility in data operations. By comparing the quality of the generated code, it is ensured that the execution results after the generated Pandas code are consistent with the original answers provided in the benchmark. Among them, for the Spider dataset, in order to better keep consistent with the needs of single-table operations in office scenarios, data with empty results after multi-table queries and SQL queries are excluded to better reflect actual applications.

Step 1: Obtain form question and answer data, wherein the form question and answer data includes a form, questions and answers.

In some embodiments, the tabular question and answer data is derived from one or more of the WikiTQ, FeTaQA, or TAT-QA datasets;

The tabular question and answer data also comes from WikiSQL and/or Spider datasets.

In the specific implementation, the initial table question answering data comes from the existing table question answering task benchmark data set. Specifically, for the query of document embedded table data, the training data is mainly collected from the widely used table question answering benchmarks, including WikiTQ, FeTaQA and TAT-QA. For the data operation of spreadsheet embedded tables, the training data is obtained from the two Text2SQL benchmarks WikiSQL and Spider.

Step 2: Input the table and question into the intelligent question-answering model to generate an extended answer to the answer, and form extended training data based on the table, question and extended answer.

In some embodiments, the intelligent question answering model includes one or more of GPT3.5, GPT4, and deepseek-coder-33B.

Step three: generate a new question based on the table, input the table and the new question into the intelligent question-answering model, and generate a first answer and a second answer based on different methods.

Step 4: Compare the first answer and the second answer for cross-validation. If the cross-validation passes, generate training data based on the table, the new question, and the first answer and/or the second answer
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manny100

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Apparently DeepSeek is software based so it needs hardware to function at the Edge.
AKIDA is Event based and is inherently low power. DeepSeek is not Event based.
AKIDA may well be the choice of Hardware for DeepSeek users for the Edge.
Being Event based AKIDA has fewer false positives which is essential for Defense, Civil aviation and shipping, Health and Security detection - see Brainchip and Neurobus in low power ship detection from satellite.
https://arxiv.org/html/2406.11319v1
 
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RobjHunt

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For this analogy


The industry has been using the McLaren to train and run inference for LLMs

China has just released an LLM that performs as well as the best and it can run on a beat up Datsun


Now why would people keep forking out for McLarens
Datsun insult for Nvidia 🤭
 
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Diogenese

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Apparently DeepSeek is software based so it needs hardware to function at the Edge.
AKIDA is Event based and is inherently low power. DeepSeek is not Event based.
AKIDA may well be the choice of Hardware for DeepSeek users for the Edge.
Being Event based AKIDA has fewer false positives which is essential for Defense, Civil aviation and shipping, Health and Security detection - see Brainchip and Neurobus in low power ship detection from satellite.
https://arxiv.org/html/2406.11319v1
These GenAI boffins are concerned with:
A. Training
B. Inference
C. "Reasoning".

From what I can glean, it seems DeepSeek's forte is in training, but I haven't got my head around it.

BRN of course is closely allied, one could say synergistically, with Edge Impulse in training, BRN having its one-shot, on-chip learning, which has dovetailed with Edge Impulse's automatic learning.
 
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Hi Believers,

Thought I'd share this photo, two things I've noticed, one I should have had my glasses on and two, is that Jensen
Huang's name on that Board Peter ? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: Good to stir the pot every now and then.

If you can't currently feel the positive energy around our company at the moment, well then you're dead, so much to unpack
throughout this year and into 2026....cybersecurity, healthcare and my favourite, space, the final frontier !

Here's to a positive 4C and update.......love Akida Tech ❤️

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What could you try out until now with your two
Girls on the table? If you know what I mean 😉..😉😉
 
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What could you try out until now with your two
Girls on the table? If you know what I mean 😉..😉😉
Both of them are lazy suzans
So I don’t think anything all they do is go round and round and round
 
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https://www.srcinc.com/products/int...ondor-high-performance-embeded-computing.html

Agile Condor® High-Performance Embedded Computing​


The Agile Condor high-performance embedded computing (HPEC) architecture offers sensor-agnostic, on-board, real-time data processing to deliver actionable intelligence to the warfighter.

Originally designed to fly in a pod-based enclosure onboard RPA, the Agile Condor system comprises advanced hardware, software and processing algorithms that can deliver super-computer-like performance in extremely size, weight and power (SWaP) constrained environments, whether in the air, in space, on land or at sea


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https://bascomhunter.com/products-s...c-processors/asic-solutions/3u-vpx-snap-card/

3U VPX SNAP Card​


Bascom Hunter’s SNAP Card (Spiking Neuromorphic Advanced Processor) is a high-performance 3U OpenVPX AI/ML processor built for rugged, mission-critical environments. The card is SOSA-aligned, HOST-compatible, and conduction cooled. It combines a Xilinx UltraScale+ RFSoC FPGA with five BrainChipAKD1000 spiking neuromorphic processors to achieve the best of both signal processing and neuromorphic computing – featuring a total of 6million neurons and 50 billion synapses across the card. Unlike traditional machine learning accelerators such as GPUs or TPUs, neuromorphic processors are designed to mimic the biological efficiency of the human brain, allowing the SNAP Card to run multiple ML models in parallel at exceptionally low power — just 1W per model — without sacrificing speed or accuracy while the FPGA enhances input/output operations and performs any desired signal processing tasks. This combination in a rugged, interoperable, and military-hardened package makes Bascom Hunter’s SNAP Card the ideal solution for the concurrent and parallel processing of real-time, multi-modal, and multi sensor data on autonomous, unattended, denied, or otherwise battery constrained military systems.

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– Automated Target Recognition (ATR) on full motion video feeds and imagery (to include 4k and higher)​

– Real-time detection and identification of threat radars and their acquisition/operating modes​

– Detection of FISINT (Foreign Instrumentation Signature Intelligence) and/or hacking across the airframe’s 1553 communications bus​

– Perform communications analysis to include speech-to-text and foreign language translation of intercepted communications​

– Fuse multiple infrared cameras (e.g., SWIR, MWIR, LWIR) to provide a combined infrared operating picture on the ground Multi-user, simultaneous modulation/demodulation​


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Compare the advertised feature set of the Bascom Hunter product with the features highlighted in the Agile Condor promo video:


Hey, that video looks like it's just from a PlayStation game, or something 🤔..
 
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Bah! All this research and "discoveries" this weekend 🙄..

Look, I can blow up a balloon! 😊

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Iseki

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Hi Believers,

Thought I'd share this photo, two things I've noticed, one I should have had my glasses on and two, is that Jensen
Huang's name on that Board Peter ? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: Good to stir the pot every now and then.

If you can't currently feel the positive energy around our company at the moment, well then you're dead, so much to unpack
throughout this year and into 2026....cybersecurity, healthcare and my favourite, space, the final frontier !

Here's to a positive 4C and update.......love Akida Tech ❤️

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Is that room for an additional 2 akida1000 chips on the larger board?
 
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Like my brain wasn't hurting enough. You made me try and read that, pure evil!!
I gave up after opening it and reading the description.

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Deadpool

Did someone say KFC
Sounds like a bit of a game changer.
They should have called it BIGGUS DICKUS instead of CENTAURUS:rolleyes:

"Centaurus is a deep SSM that allows for flexible channel connectivity (much like CNNs), which is enabled by optimal tensor contractions. It is an extension of our aTENNuate network, now adapted for several audio tasks such as keyword spotting, denoising, and ASR. Unlike Mamba however, it does not use data gated SSM matrices, yet" 😉


This is from Rudy Pei LinkedIn post.
"As demonstrated, the Centaurus network is SOTA across many real time audio tasks, including keyword sporting, denoising, and speech recognition. More important, it is super lightweight and edge compatible with many devices, including BrainChip's Akida hardware. We see a future where this type of network will become ubiquitous on the edge".

Yet, another feather ditty to the AKIDA repertoire 🎼and not a fat lady in sight.
 
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manny100

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Sounds like a bit of a game changer.
They should have called it BIGGUS DICKUS instead of CENTAURUS:rolleyes:

"Centaurus is a deep SSM that allows for flexible channel connectivity (much like CNNs), which is enabled by optimal tensor contractions. It is an extension of our aTENNuate network, now adapted for several audio tasks such as keyword spotting, denoising, and ASR. Unlike Mamba however, it does not use data gated SSM matrices, yet" 😉


This is from Rudy Pie LinkedIn post.
"As demonstrated, the Centaurus network is SOTA across many real time audio tasks, including keyword sporting, denoising, and speech recognition. More important, it is super lightweight and edge compatible with many devices, including BrainChip's Akida hardware. We see a future where this type of network will become ubiquitous on the edge".

Yet, another feather in the AKIDA repertoire 🎼and not a fat lady in sight.
I asked co pilot for potential uses of Centaurus:
BrainChip's Centaurus has several potential commercial applications across various industries. The answer at 2. Cybersecurity below included a reference (not included here) to https://www.nasdaq.com/press-releas...rphic-processing-quantum-venturas-cyberthreat
So we got our QV/BRN Cybersecurity News Release noticed by Nasdaq.

1. Voice-Activated Assistants

Centaurus can be used in voice-activated assistants to improve keyword spotting and automatic speech recognition (ASR), making these devices more accurate and responsive.

2. Cybersecurity

Centaurus can enhance cybersecurity solutions by detecting unusual patterns in network traffic, helping to identify and mitigate cyber threats in real-time.

3. Medical Devices

In the healthcare sector, Centaurus can be integrated into medical devices for tasks like monitoring patient speech and detecting anomalies, aiding in early diagnosis and treatment.

4. Automotive Industry

Centaurus can be used in automotive applications for voice command systems, enhancing driver safety and convenience by allowing hands-free control of various car functions.

5. Industrial Automation

In industrial settings, Centaurus can improve communication between machines and operators, enabling more efficient and accurate control of industrial processes through voice commands.

6. Smart Home Devices

Centaurus can be integrated into smart home devices to provide more natural and intuitive voice control, improving user experience and device functionality.

7. Surveillance Systems

Centaurus can enhance surveillance systems by improving the accuracy of voice recognition in security cameras, aiding in the identification of potential threats.

These applications demonstrate the versatility and potential impact of Centaurus in various commercial sectors. Do any of these uses particularly interest you?
 
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Was this posted already?

 
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MegaportX

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Is the latest report due tomorrow ?
Last year released 25th.
There's big interest.





MegaportX
 
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Wags

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Is the latest report due tomorrow ?
Last year released 25th.
There's big interest.





MegaportX
Who would know?, has to be sometime this week.
I cannot for the life of me understand why it is a last minute thing. I have asked mgmt this question before (over a beer some years ago when it was allowed), and the reason given at the time was that key mgmt, needed the time to write the words.
Im sure that the CFO can produce the numbers with a button push, literally the first day after the quarter, and the last minute thing has always been a bone for me. Id love someone experienced or clever to educate me on the strategic advantage of being known in the marketplace, to do the reporting at the last minute? Seems to me it just creates opportunity for the bastardo's.
This is not a critic of mgmt, I just don't get it.
But I have a good vibe about this report and coming quarters, so it's a shrug of the shoulders from me. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
Happy Australia weekend.
 
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Who would know?, has to be sometime this week.
I cannot for the life of me understand why it is a last minute thing. I have asked mgmt this question before (over a beer some years ago when it was allowed), and the reason given at the time was that key mgmt, needed the time to write the words.
Im sure that the CFO can produce the numbers with a button push, literally the first day after the quarter, and the last minute thing has always been a bone for me. Id love someone experienced or clever to educate me on the strategic advantage of being known in the marketplace, to do the reporting at the last minute? Seems to me it just creates opportunity for the bastardo's.
This is not a critic of mgmt, I just don't get it.
But I have a good vibe about this report and coming quarters, so it's a shrug of the shoulders from me. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
Happy Australia weekend.
Companies often delay releasing their quarterly reports until the last moment, not to annoy investors, but due to internal reasons, such as ensuring accuracy and incorporating potential last-minute changes or events. That’s my experience
 
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Wags

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Companies often delay releasing their quarterly reports until the last moment, not to annoy investors, but due to internal reasons, such as ensuring accuracy and incorporating potential last-minute changes or events. That’s my experience
Oh, ok, cheers
 
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