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HopalongPetrovski

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Proving that we ARE the benchmark leaders at the "far edge"....PICO.....Pico Brainchip when you want first mover advantage, stop
procrastinating and sign up, our bus feels like it's warming the engines up again.

Fancy that, the company making an nice announcement on 1 October, my birthday 66 clickity...click.....thanks for sharing the love back in the US.

Is it just me, or has the trading pattern changed somewhat ?

Regards to all....Tech.
Happy Bday Tech. Mine next week. Lets hope the combined gravity of our good karma manifests in a couple of big, juicy deals that Brainchip lands, signed, sealed, delivered and announced, providing a steady flow of revenue into our coffers. 🤣


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FJ-215

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Proving that we ARE the benchmark leaders at the "far edge"....PICO.....Pico Brainchip when you want first mover advantage, stop
procrastinating and sign up, our bus feels like it's warming the engines up again.

Fancy that, the company making an nice announcement on 1 October, my birthday 66 clickity...click.....thanks for sharing the love back in the US.

Is it just me, or has the trading pattern changed somewhat ?

Regards to all....Tech.
Happy Birthday Tech.....

Have you made the trek to the Melbourne sandbelt yet.

Should be on all golfer's bucket list.

Mind you, a couple out of play atm but the Big 3 (Royal, Heath, Vic) are a must play.

You deserve it, great Birthday present to yourself.
 
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BRN back to nearly half a billion MC on just a sniff of something. Look out BHP, we're coming for you!
 
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Good to see us listed as partners on the Neurobus website. Looks like we may already be embedded in some of their products..

Thanks GS,

... and their other industry partners are Intel and Prophesee.




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Prophesee's DVS can instantaneously detect changes above a set threshold in a field of view. This is another project on which Brainchip and Prophesee are working together.
Hi Dio,

A little left field but can you see a way for the JAST learning rules to be implemented in to TENNs? (orthogonal polynomials)

From memory the JAST rules only took up something like 64K lines of code.

Way, way, way out side of my pay grade.
Well, until you asked the question, I hadn't thought about it.

In my mind, I had considered the division of labour as being Akida doing the inference/classification and TENNS handling the temporal element. But we have learnt that TENNS can be use without Akida, so there's another neat hypothesis down the plughole.

I haven't really got into how TENNS works, but we do know that, unlike Akida, it uses MACs. However it also uses the same sparse weights and activations.

I'm more a pictures person than a words person and I'm not personally acquainted with converging orthogonal polynomials, but some of my best friends are.

This is an abstract from the TENNS patent:

WO2023250093A1 METHOD AND SYSTEM FOR IMPLEMENTING TEMPORAL CONVOLUTION IN SPATIOTEMPORAL NEURAL NETWORKS 20220622
COENEN OLIVIER JEAN-MARIE DOMINIQUE [US]; PEI YAN RU [US]


[0012] According to an embodiment of the present disclosure, disclosed herein is a neural network system that includes an input interface, a memory including a plurality of temporal and spatial layers, and a processor.

The input interface is configured to receive sequential data that includes temporal data sequences. The memory is configured to store a plurality of group of first temporal kernel values, a first plurality of First-In-FirstOut (FIFO) buffers corresponding to a current temporal layer.

The memory further implements a neural network that includes a first plurality of neurons for the current temporal layer, a corresponding group among the plurality of groups of the first temporal kernel values is associated with each connection of a corresponding neuron of the first plurality of neurons.

The processor is configured to allocate the first plurality of FIFO buffers to a first group of neurons among the first plurality of neurons.

The processor is then configured to receive a first temporal sequence of the corresponding temporal data sequences into the first plurality of FIFO buffers allocated to the first group of neurons from corresponding temporal data sequences over a first time window.

Thereafter, the processor is configured to perform, for each connection of a corresponding neuron of the first group of neurons, a first dot product of the first temporal sequence of the corresponding temporal data sequences within a corresponding FIFO buffer of first plurality of FIFO buffers with a corresponding temporal kernel value among the corresponding group of the first temporal kernel values.

The corresponding temporal kernel values are associated with a corresponding connection of the corresponding neuron of the first group of neurons.

The processor is then further configured to determine a corresponding potential value for the corresponding neurons of the first group of neurons based on the performed first dot product and then generates a first output response based on the determined corresponding potential values
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The TENNs as disclosed herein may effectively learn both spatial and temporal correlations from the input data.

[0050] According to an embodiment, the spatiotemporal networks may be configured to perform the temporal convolution operations either in a buffered temporal convolution mode or a recurrent temporal convolution mode, and may be alternatively referred to as a “buffer mode” or a “recurrent mode”, respectively.

[0051] According to an embodiment, the spatiotemporal network may be configured with a plurality of spatiotemporal convolution layers. Each of the spatiotemporal layers may be further split into plurality of temporal and spatial convolution layers. The kernels for the temporal and spatial convolution layers are represented as a sum over a set of basis functions, such as orthogonal polynomials, where the coefficients of the basis functions are trainable parameters of the network. This basis function representation compresses the number of parameters of the spatiotemporal network, which makes the training of the spatiotemporal network stable and resistant to overfitting
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* Overfitting is responsible for the "hallucinations" experienced on OpenAI.



The JAST patent summarizes the rules as follows:

US11853862B2 Method, digital electronic circuit and system for unsupervised detection of repeating patterns in a series of events 20161121

  • Input events (“spikes”) are grouped into fixed-size packets. The temporal order between events of a same packet is lost, which may seem a drawback, but indeed increases robustness as it eases the detection of distorted patterns and makes the method insensitive to changes of the event rate.
  • Weighted or un-weighted synapses are replaced by a set of binary weights. Learning only requires flipping some of these binary weights and performing sums and comparisons, thus minimizing the computational burden.
  • The number of binary weights which is set to “1” for each neuron does not vary during the learning process. This avoids ending up with non-selective or non-sensible neurons.
In other words, the synspses are GO-NO GO gates, depending on how they are programmed from the model.

[0062] The neural processor 320 may correspond to a neural processing unit (NPU). The (NPU) is a specialized circuit that implements all the necessary control and arithmetic logic necessary to execute machine learning algorithms, typically by operating on models such as artificial neural networks (ANNs) and spiking neural networks (SNNs).

However, does the loss of temporal order within a packet exclude TENNS? I wouldn't think so, as the temporal order between the packets is retained.


So the question is

A - whether the JAST rules are compatible with TENNS COPs?; and
B- whether there is any advantage in combining them?

The short answer is: the chooks ate my homework.



Truth is I haven't dug in depth into the TENNS patent or looked at the pictures.

So I think the old engineering adage "If it ain't broke, ..." applies.

As my mother used to say "Leave it alone - you'll make it explode!"
 

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I forgot who Thomas Hulsing is and had to check him on Linkedin.

A systems of systems engineer at Airbus Defence and Space GmbH, working on: Life Support Systems, Scientific Experiments, Satellite SW, Data Evaluation, Automation, Innovation & Improvement.

Clearly a very good sign that he reposted the Akida Pico news, showing he is interested.

I am not so much for this kind of dot joining, but he seems to be an Akida fanboy and posting BrainChip news going back months and considering what he is doing in that 40k employees company, surely he is playing around with Akida2 & TENNs in his department.

Also positive that Akida Pico is out in the news in several specialist news outlets, last one I saw is newelectronics UK below.

 
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I forgot who Thomas Hulsing is and had to check him on Linkedin.

A systems of systems engineer at Airbus Defence and Space GmbH, working on: Life Support Systems, Scientific Experiments, Satellite SW, Data Evaluation, Automation, Innovation & Improvement.

Clearly a very good sign that he reposted the Akida Pico news, showing he is interested.

I am not so much for this kind of dot joining, but he seems to be an Akida fanboy and posting BrainChip news going back months and considering what he is doing in that 40k employees company, surely he is playing around with Akida2 & TENNs in his department.

Also positive that Akida Pico is out in the news in several specialist news outlets, last one I saw is newelectronics UK below.

@Sirod69 who we haven't seen around for a while, confirmed that Thomas is an enthusiastic shareholder and part of her WhatsApp? group, a while back..
 
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@Sirod69 who we haven't seen around for a while, confirmed that Thomas is an enthusiastic shareholder and part of her WhatsApp? group, a while back..
I don't think and a I do not remember that @Sirod69 has ever mentioned that Thomas is a member in her WhatsApp group. I think you are talking about the WhatsApp group with Andreas Weber, or? Maybe you should ask Andreas Weber. Why don't you contact Thomas Hulsing and ask him?
 
I don't think and a I do not remember that @Sirod69 has ever mentioned that Thomas is a member in her WhatsApp group. I think you are talking about the WhatsApp group with Andreas Weber, or? Maybe you should ask Andreas Weber. Why don't you contact Thomas Hulsing and ask him?
Looks like it is "both" Andreas and Thomas..

Here is the post.

(The preview is incorrect, but clicking on it takes you there..)


"So somehow I don't even know how to start. Besides, my German is translated differently from what I mean anyway. I've been here in this forum for a long time now and I love being here. Elias and others who have already written about BRN at LinkedIn (Andreas Weber, Thomas Hülsing...) are people I know and I always found it very funny when you speculated here. I've already said that we have a WhatsApp group that is invested in Brainchip. We are all in the IT industry to a greater or lesser extent (I not since I no longer work due to my illness)"


Hope she's doing okay..
 
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I don't think and a I do not remember that @Sirod69 has ever mentioned that Thomas is a member in her WhatsApp group. I think you are talking about the WhatsApp group with Andreas Weber, or? Maybe you should ask Andreas Weber. Why don't you contact Thomas Hulsing and ask him?
I do remember that also.
 
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itsol4605

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Looks like it is "both" Andreas and Thomas..

Here is the post.

(The preview is incorrect, but clicking on it takes you there..)


"So somehow I don't even know how to start. Besides, my German is translated differently from what I mean anyway. I've been here in this forum for a long time now and I love being here. Elias and others who have already written about BRN at LinkedIn (Andreas Weber, Thomas Hülsing...) are people I know and I always found it very funny when you speculated here. I've already said that we have a WhatsApp group that is invested in Brainchip. We are all in the IT industry to a greater or lesser extent (I not since I no longer work due to my illness)"


Hope she's doing okay..

I also hope that she is healthy again.

I see too much speculation and guesswork in your statement!
She mentions that she has a WhatsApp group that has a few members.
She writes that she knows Thomas Hulsing - possibly via LinkedIn or maybe even privately.
In general, I still don't see any proof that Thomas Hulsing is supposed to be in the WhatsApp group.
You can continue to speculate - maybe someone will dare to contact Thomas Hulsing.
 
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I also hope that she is healthy again.

I see too much speculation and guesswork in your statement!
She mentions that she has a WhatsApp group that has a few members.
She writes that she knows Thomas Hulsing - possibly via LinkedIn or maybe even privately.
In general, I still don't see any proof that Thomas Hulsing is supposed to be in the WhatsApp group.
You can continue to speculate - maybe someone will dare to contact Thomas Hulsing.
Are you serious dude/dudette?..

Read it again and say sorry 😛

What exactly am I speculating?..

"Elias and others who have already written about BRN at LinkedIn (Andreas Weber, Thomas Hülsing...) are people I know and I always found it very funny when you speculated here. I've already said that we have a WhatsApp group that is invested in Brainchip. We are all in the IT industry to a greater or lesser extent"
 
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itsol4605

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Are you serious dude/dudette?..

Read it again and say sorry 😛

What exactly am I speculating?..

"Elias and others who have already written about BRN at LinkedIn (Andreas Weber, Thomas Hülsing...) are people I know and I always found it very funny when you speculated here. I've already said that we have a WhatsApp group that is invested in Brainchip. We are all in the IT industry to a greater or lesser extent"

I don't like your aggressive tone at all.
You have an opinionated personality.

Feel free to speculate further here.

Because of your character and aggressive tone, you are second on my ignore list.
 
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Are you serious dude/dudette?..

Read it again and say sorry 😛

What exactly am I speculating?..

"Elias and others who have already written about BRN at LinkedIn (Andreas Weber, Thomas Hülsing...) are people I know and I always found it very funny when you speculated here. I've already said that we have a WhatsApp group that is invested in Brainchip. We are all in the IT industry to a greater or lesser extent"
She wrote this in a previous post, so only one of the 2 (the other was Marcus May) was in her WhatsApp group at that time.

I'm assuming it was Thomas, who was in the WhatsApp group (he "was" the other party).

"So I know both of them and am in regular contact with them, one is even on Whatsapp with me. So these are German people and they are interested in nothing more and nothing less, okay?
Some of us in Germany are enthusiastic about Brainchip and are trying to promote it here, and especially we here, who had already invested in Brainchip before the announcement of Mercedes (which is Germany)"


The point is, that they are investors..
 
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I don't like your aggressive tone at all.
You have an opinionated personality.

Feel free to speculate further here.

Because of your character and aggressive tone, you are second on my ignore list.
Asking you to "say sorry" with my tongue poking out, is being aggressive? 🤔..

Must be a language thing..

 
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Another good night on the US OTC
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buena suerte :-)

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Fancy that, the company making an nice announcement on 1 October, my birthday 66 clickity...click.....thanks for sharing the love back in the US.

Is it just me, or has the trading pattern changed somewhat ?

Regards to all....Tech.
Happy belated Birthday old chap :cool:🤜🤛...🥂🎉🎉🥂....Cheers
 
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Anyone got a handle on the latest short list?
I've done a bit of digging but I don't think my spade is big enough🤪
 
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