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[Diogenese]

Hi FF... do you think it's possible that ARM move with the times and buy our IP to pass on to any of thier customers that want the AI Extension???

Hi Chris,

The point of being in ARM's ecosystem is that they can offer Akida for applications that need NNs, but it is unlikely that ARM will offer a processor with Akida built in unless the customer requests it. After all, our business model is based on the ARM model of IP licensing, so it will be up to the customer to decide whether ARM's Ethos or Helium will meet their needs, or whether they need a full strength SNN.

I don't know if there is a discount on the ARM IP if the customer rejects Ethos and opts for Akida.

 

[TECH]

The amended list now showing 56 engagements:

1. FORD

2. VALEO

3. RENESAS

4. NASA

5. TATA Consulting Services

6. MEGACHIPS

7. MOSCHIP

8. SOCIONEXT

9. PROPHESEE

10. VVDN

11. TEKSUN

12. Ai LABS

13. NVISO

14. EMOTION 3D

15. ARM

16. EDGE IMPULSE

17. INTEL

18. GLOBAL FOUNDRIES

19. BLUE RIDGE ENVISIONEERING

20. MERCEDES BENZ

21. ANT 61

22. QUANTUM VENTURA

23. INFORMATION SYSTEM LABORATORIES

24. INTELLISENSE SYSTEMS

25. CVEDIA

26. LORSER INDUSTRIES

27. SiFIVE

28. IPRO SILICONE

29. SALESLINK

30. NUMEM

31. VORAGO

32. NANOSE

33. BIOTOME

34. OCULI

35. CIRCLE8 CLEAN TECHNOLOGIES

36. AVID GROUP

37. TATA ELXSI

38. GMAC INTELLIGENCE

39. EDGX

40. EUROPEAN SPACE AGENCY

41 UNIGEN

42. iniVation

43. SAHOMA CONTROLWARE

44. MAGIK EYE

45. MYWAI

46. INFINEON

47. ERICSSON

48. MICROCHIP

49. ONSEMI

50. IPSOLON RESEARCH

51. University of Virginia

52. University of Oklahoma

53. Arizona State University

54. Carnegie Mellon University

55. Rochester Institute of Technology

56. Drexel University

My opinion only DYOR
Fact Finder

That is such an impressive list.

To even consider that we haven't made any real progress over the last 3/4 years would be absurd, as
would be thinking nobody has even heard of us..all those thought patterns are a total waste of mental energy.

How many companies specializing in our field could/can boast that many engagements, sure some are immature but many are maturing very nicely, each company that is listed are spending money and a lot of time working alongside us or using our technology within their own labs, the best always seems to attract the best.

Looking forward to a great deal of positive news this year, well that's what I'm quietly expecting.

Tech.

 

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[Chris B]

Hi Chris,

The point of being in ARM's ecosystem is that they can offer Akida for applications that need NNs, but it is unlikely that ARM will offer a processor with Akida built in unless the customer requests it. After all, our business model is based on the ARM model of IP licensing, so it will be up to the customer to decide whether ARM's Ethos or Helium will meet their needs, or whether they need a full strength SNN.

I don't know if there is a discount on the ARM IP if the customer rejects Ethos and opts for Akida.

Thanks Dio...Forgive me if this is a stupid question as I'm not 100% on how these things work.. so if a customer wants to use Akida with Arms architecture, they buy Akida chips to achieve this or they need to buy our IP Licence?

 

[Diogenese]

Thanks Dio...Forgive me if this is a stupid question as I'm not 100% on how these things work.. so if a customer wants to use Akida with Arms architecture, they buy Akida chips to achieve this or they need to buy our IP Licence?

Hi Chris,

ARM does not sell chips, only IP. That is also BRN's primary business model, but until we get established, it seems we will be making a limited number of chips available, eg VVDN, PCIe boards.

Akida IP is compatible with all ARM processor IPs.

The normal thing would be for the customer to license the ARM IP and the Akida IP. Being in ARM's ecosystem makes it easier for the customer to get both together.

 

[Chris B]

Hi Chris,

ARM does not sell chips, only IP. That is also BRN's primary business model, but until we get established, it seems we will be making a limited number of chips available, eg VVDN, PCIe boards.

Akida IP is compatible with all ARM processor IPs.

The normal thing would be for the customer to license the ARM IP and the Akida IP. Being in ARM's ecosystem makes it easier for the customer to get both together.

Thanks Dio... makes sense

 

[Fact Finder]

Hi FF... do you think it's possible that ARM move with the times and buy our IP to pass on to any of thier customers that want the AI Extension???

Hi @Chris B.

My wild speculation is that ARM has already agreed the financial arrangement with Brainchip covering sales.

I believe that ARMs new fee structure encompasses Brainchip and the upfront licence fee is amortised and paid as part of the profit share.

I do not believe that ARM would be:

1. touting AKIDA across Africa,

2. proving out its compatibility with all its processes, and

3. engaging with Brainchip in seminar/podcasts

without having nailed down the financial side of their relationship.

What this means is that all seven of my dream Brainchip customers could already be trialling and designing with ARM AKIDA IP.

Remember Edge Impulse has been working with ARM and its customers for much longer than Brainchip and its Chief Revenue Officer must have had a basis for his statement in the CES 2024 podcast that AKIDA was going to be in every semiconductor.

He must have well known that ARM provides 90 percent of the semiconductors in mobile phones and 80% of the general semiconductor market and the only pathway to semiconductor monopoly would be working arm in arm with ARM.

As I say this is my wild speculation but the facts are there for all to see.

My opinion only DYOR
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[rgupta]

Thanks Dio...Forgive me if this is a stupid question as I'm not 100% on how these things work.. so if a customer wants to use Akida with Arms architecture, they buy Akida chips to achieve this or they need to buy our IP Licence?

I assume one size does not fit all. Depending on customer requirements and size they either have their own IT team or employ someone for their requirements.
As per their budget they may engage someone like megachips, socionext, edge impulse etc.
Now those chip designers recommend according to their customer requirements.
Now here comes arm and brn in picture. These chip designers can be ecosystem partners for arm, brn , sifive etc and then use particular IP.
e g for akida 1000 we used arm but we had no IP contract with contract but socionext pay to arm on our behalf.
Brianchip mentioned many times an IP is recommended only if a customer needs more than 1 million chips otherwise they can take the same from megachips, socionext or edge impulse.
As a company I don't assume brainchip or arm contact directly every IP user.

 

[wilzy123]

All the best to the genuine people here who do have good intentions and are good people.

The hypocrisy in this is laughable at best.

 

[Iseki]

Interesting that this involves some of our TCS friends.

What is odd is that it concerns spike rate coding, which Simon Thorpe largely debunked on the way to developing rank coding, which Akida's BRN licensed as its secret sauce.

I don't know what information they believe they can retrieve from the spike rate.

Yes-sir-ee!

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0893608001000831

I think it means that the brain has evolved to give us the inference in the quickest time possible.
So next time you go shopping, the hat you liked first, is most likely the one for you.

 

[Chris B]

Hi @Chris B.

My wild speculation is that ARM has already agreed the financial arrangement with Brainchip covering sales.

I believe that ARMs new fee structure encompasses Brainchip and the upfront licence fee is amortised and paid as part of the profit share.

I do not believe that ARM would be:

1. touting AKIDA across Africa,

2. proving out its compatibility with all its processes, and

3. engaging with Brainchip in seminar/podcasts

without having nailed down the financial side of their relationship.

What this means is that all seven of my dream Brainchip customers could already be trialling and designing with ARM AKIDA IP.

Remember Edge Impulse has been working with ARM and its customers for much longer than Brainchip and its Chief Revenue Officer must have had a basis for his statement in the CES 2024 podcast that AKIDA was going to be in every semiconductor.

He must have well known that ARM provides 90 percent of the semiconductors in mobile phones and 80% of the general semiconductor market and the only pathway to semiconductor monopoly would be working arm in arm with ARM.

As I say this is my wild speculation but the facts are there for all to see.

My opinion only DYOR
Fact Finder

Thanks FF... sounds Fantastic and answered my question to a tee... Fingers Crossed

Hi @Chris B.

My wild speculation is that ARM has already agreed the financial arrangement with Brainchip covering sales.

I believe that ARMs new fee structure encompasses Brainchip and the upfront licence fee is amortised and paid as part of the profit share.

I do not believe that ARM would be:

1. touting AKIDA across Africa,

2. proving out its compatibility with all its processes, and

3. engaging with Brainchip in seminar/podcasts

without having nailed down the financial side of their relationship.

What this means is that all seven of my dream Brainchip customers could already be trialling and designing with ARM AKIDA IP.

Remember Edge Impulse has been working with ARM and its customers for much longer than Brainchip and its Chief Revenue Officer must have had a basis for his statement in the CES 2024 podcast that AKIDA was going to be in every semiconductor.

He must have well known that ARM provides 90 percent of the semiconductors in mobile phones and 80% of the general semiconductor market and the only pathway to semiconductor monopoly would be working arm in arm with ARM.

As I say this is my wild speculation but the facts are there for all to see.

My opinion only DYOR
Fact Finder

Thanks FF... sounds Fantastic and answered my question to a tee... Fingers Crossed

 

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[Berlinforever]

Hi B
Todd Vierra mentioned tapeout of AKIDA 2.0 in his interview at CES 2024.
My opinion only DYOR
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Mentioned, as in: “… we will soon announce tape-out”? This should be a fairly material announcement.

 

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[CHIPS]

Hard to find a Skoda ( in Aussie ) I would imagine Slade.

However, I'm hoping that there might be a couple of owners of an ( AsKIDA " Akida 2000 " ) before tooo long, I have my fingies crossed, for that eventuality. Would you settle for one of those instead ?

Akida Ballista >>>>> Ah - AsKIDA, we needya, - IMO <<<<<



hotty...

Maybe you can find a newer Skoda that had a crash and take it apart in more detail to look for Akida?? Check with a Skoda dealer or the nearest crash test dummy.

 

[Diogenese]

Maybe you can find a newer Skoda that had a crash and take it apart in more detail to look for Akida?? Check with a Skoda dealer or the nearest crash test dummy.

You can't use "Akida" and "crash" in the same sentence.

 

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[CHIPS]

You can't use "Akida" and "crash" in the same sentence.

Oh, I did not consider that ...