Easytiger
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,Hmm… but who said that this is not the case? Just because we don’t now what’s going on behind the scenes, doesn’t mean they don’t work on it. We have to be patient that’s all. Just my opinion
RobjHunt
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Fact: You can't purchase an Akida1500 or Akida2000 chip. Therefore the only possibility that something is happening is the possibility of a propriety chip for someone huge being made with revenue due down the track.
But if you look down FF's list of 50 companies, not many are large enough to do this.
If you think about it, we're asking them, say Ford, to spend tens of million dollars to invest in a proprietary chip that won't work without our IP.
No one, not even Ford would do this with their shareholders' funds. It makes more sense to just buy expensive NVIDIA chips.
So no one is manufacturing a chip that contains Akida IP.
So where do we go from here?
We can't continue like this. If BrainChip can't point to royalty income soon, the Board should be rolled. Give someone else a chance to fix the problem. Our secret Sauce is only in our IP . We need to back Akida IP, to get it into the market place before we die of hubris.
It's a shame that someone like FF should have had meetings and come back with nothing but the same company excuses. Better were he to come back to us and told us how they are going to tweak their marketing.
wilzy123
Founding Member
Oh god.
Something tells me your only DD is this forum, your stock watchlist, and motley fool articles.
Camels being horses designed by committee, I'm not sure a consortium is the best way to go. Who would be the cat-herder-in-chief?
The company has decided that its main business model will be in the licensing of Akida IP for customers to incorporate in their chips, rather than selling chips as a product.
As we know, this is a much longer time to market than simply making chips.
However, along the way, the company has gained an understanding that each customer has unique requirements, so a one-size-fits-all chip is not appropriate.
Akida IP now comes in 3 customizable flavours, e, s, p which can be incorporated into customer SoC including a processor.
https://brainchip.com/akida-generations/
e has up to 2 nodes (4*NPEs), and can be used for ultra-low power applications such as:
- Vibration Detection
- Anomaly Detection
- Keyword Spotting
- Sensor Fusion
- Low-Res Presence Detection
- Gesture Detection
s has up to 8 nodes, and can be used for application such as:
- Advanced Keyword Spotting
- Sensor Fusion
- Low-Res Presence Detection
- Gesture Detection & Recognition
- Object Classification
- Biometric Recognition
- Advanced Speech Recognition
- Object Detection & Semantic Segmentation
at up to 500MHz.
- all without CPU intervention after initial configuration.
p has up to 256 nodes (1024 NPEs), and can be used for applications such as:
- Gesture Detection
- Object Classification
- Advanced Speech Recognition
- Object Detection & Semantic Segmentation
- Advanced Sequence Prediction
- Video Object Detection & Tracking
- Vision Transformer Networks
Akida can be adapted for each different application by "programming" it with a model library of examples representative of the intended application.
The Akida neural network (NN) includes nodes of 4 Neural Processing Engines (NPE) interconnected by a switchable communication matrix so different arrangements of the NPEs can be configured to suit each different application. Usually the configuration will consist of three or more layers of NPEs, each with a selectable number of connexions with the NPEs in the following layer.
The configuration is "programmable" and not fixed. A processor (MCU, MPU, CPU, GPU) is used to set up the configuration but is not used for the basic classification/inference tasks, although it can also be used to utilize the output from the Akida silicon. The Akida IP will normally be manufactured as part of the same SoC as the processor.
Akida IP can be incorporated with any "standard" processor (processor agnostic).
We are in the "ecosystem" of ARM and IFS.
Renesas and MegaChips have Akida IP licences.
Prophesee and Valeo have products for which Akida is a natural fit.
VVDN is producing an Akida Edge Box.
Unigen and BrainChip are developing an Edge Server.
BRN is working with Lorser and separately Ipsilon on software defined radio
BRN is working with emotion3D and nViso on DMS.
In space, there's NASA, ANT61, EdgX.
The list goes on ...
Cybersecurity - Quantum Venture, DUTH.
RISC-V - SiFive.
Socionext - DMS, in-cabin radar ...
If we had any more irons in the fire, we'd need a blast furnace to keep them hot.
This was the BRN pre-CES announcement a year ago:
https://brainchip.com/brainchip-joi...rate-capabilities-of-akida-powered-solutions/
BrainChip Joins Technology Partners During CES to Demonstrate Capabilities of Akida-Powered Solutions
Laguna Hills, Calif. – December 29, 2022 –BrainChip Holdings Ltd (ASX: BRN, OTCQX: BRCHF, ADR: BCHPY), the world’s first commercial producer of ultra-low power, fully digital, event-based, neuromorphic AI IP, today announced that it will be joining partners Prophesee, Socionext, and VVDN January 5-8 at CES to showcase compelling solutions on constrained edge devices, featuring its Akida™ processors. Akida processors simplify development by supporting today’s mainstream network models and workflows while being future-proofed for next-generation edge AI solutions.
BrainChip joins Prophesee at The Venetian Hotel as part of a technology showcase highlighting Prophesee’s Metavision® platform. BrainChip partners with Prophesee to optimize computer vision AI performance and efficiency to deliver next-generation platforms for OEMs interested in integrating event-based vision systems with high levels of AI performance coupled with ultra-low power technologies.
BrainChip joins Socionext in the Vehicle Tech and Advanced Mobility Zone, located in the Las Vegas Convention Center, North Hall in Booth 10654. Socionext will be showcasing its leading-edge technologies and solutions in automotive imaging, AI, and smart sensing to help customers develop feature rich custom SoCs that enable product differentiation with an added competitive edge. Socionext has played an important role in the implementation of BrainChip’s AI technology in SoCs and the companies are working together to satisfy the need for AI in edge computing. As part of this showcase, BrainChip will be highlighting its functionality with NVISO’s human-behavior software designed for the automotive in-cabin environment.
VVDN Technologies has more than a decade of experience in product engineering and manufacturing electronic solutions. VVDN offers a value proposition by being a one-stop shop for customers by offering complete hardware, software, mechanical, testing, prototyping, certification, and manufacturing services. The company’s focus is to help customers with their next technology innovation in the space of 5G, Wireless, AI/ML on Vision-based solutions, IoT, Cloud and Apps. To enable the same, BrainChip will be highlighting its industry leading technology at the VVDN Technologies Booth 10870 at CES developing opportunities for next generation products.
“We are excited to join our partners in Las Vegas during CES to showcase how combining BrainChip’s Akida with their technologies delivers leading edge AI solutions,” said Rob Telson, BrainChip Vice President of Ecosystem and Partnerships. “We look forward to demonstrating these capabilities in person.”
BrainChip’s neural processor Al IP is an event-based technology that is inherently lower power when compared to conventional neural network accelerators. BrainChip IP supports incremental learning and high-speed inference in a wide variety of use cases, such as convolutional neural networks with high throughput and unsurpassed performance in micro watt to milli-watt power budgets. Among the markets that BrainChip’s Essential AI technology will impact are the next generation of smart cars, smart homes of today and tomorrow, and industrial IoT.
We've heard from VVDN and Socionext ... what's keeping Prophesee?
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DingoBorat
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"Are you sure it's going to eventually work??"Totally agree 110%.
More Pantene required peeps
HopalongPetrovski
I'm Spartacus!
Frankly, I doubt any of us would be kicking her out of bed just because of her rats nest, hmmmm.....
DingoBorat
Slim
I think this overdue holder notice today, is a good thing.
It shows to me, that shit has been hitting the fan there, over the all too frequent petty errors, that make the Company look bad, from that perspective.
I "think" we "should" be able to look forward to more professionalism, in this department moving forward.
I mean it can't be "that hard" to keep on top of those areas..
Especially with so few announcements and the conditions, that could possibly trigger a required announcement (in this case dilution by extra share issues) being predictable.
Hi Dio,
I have nothing but respect for you and FF. Everything you say is correct and well researched.
I just can't see the incentive for anyone to pay for the design and manufacture their own propriety chip that contains our propriety Aklida IP, which I think is our model.
Surely you agree that we are marketing our IP in the opposite way that others eg Hailo, Syntiant are.
I only conclude that if it is too expensive for BRN to manufacture an Akida 2 chip, and it's too expensive for Renesas, say to manufacture an Akida2 chip for general sale, then perhaps a consortium of interested parties may be the way to go.
JDelekto
Regular
It will depend on the application that drives the need to invest in manufacturing new chips that contain Akida's IP.
Consider tiny, portable, disconnected devices that need a small form factor, emit little heat, and have a long battery life. Wearables are the first thing that comes to mind, whether it is sports watches, hearing aids, or medical devices. An intelligent company will not throw an expensive, power-hungry NVIDIA processor into it.
I also see BrainChip's IP being incorporated into specific sensor solutions that become a small module in a much larger product, whether an automobile, kitchen appliance or child's toy.
I wouldn't restrict the potential applications of Akida to Edge boxes and servers (which are more prominent through recent partnership announcements) and consider this is only a narrow slice of the specific applications for which Akida will shine.
More specifically, intelligent sensor modules.
DingoBorat
Slim
Thanks Iseki
It's obviously more risky, to go the "making chips" route and yes you are right, BrainChip simply doesn't have the money, to invest in going that way.
Plus the large variability, in which AKIDA IP can be applied, makes a "fits all sizes" chip impractical.
No one, will likely be producing "AKIDA" chips, but will be incorporating our IP, into "their" designs.
Obviously, this requires a longer runway and is only really workable with larger OEM manufacturers, but like Sean has said, once we are in, we are in.
"We" know nothing about most of these larger customers, but they are there.
Smaller customers, will be taken care of later on and probably require longer development times anyway.
The strategy chosen by the Company is very bold and is akin to a "Winner takes All" attitude.
Not an ABBA fan..
Yeah... so, no... look... what I wanted to say is that it doesn't really matter what you or I debate here. The point is, I bought and continue to hold out of conviction. I don't understand what one aims to achieve with speculations and personal interpretations. That's all. FF always brings facts (as his name suggests). As long as I've been reading here, he has never speculated. Perhaps took something as an example to illustrate a point. But that's it. I stick to the visible progress of the company, which is evident and accessible to everyone. Additionally, there are links and sources provided here where you can read up if you missed something. Overall, as a shareholder, there's not much else to do. So, what exactly do you want with your post?
Not meant to be offensive.I know this. Thanks ! It was just metaphorical
"So, what exactly do you want with your post?"Yeah... so, no... look... what I wanted to say is that it doesn't really matter what you or I debate here. The point is, I bought and continue to hold out of conviction. I don't understand what one aims to achieve with speculations and personal interpretations. That's all. FF always brings facts (as his name suggests). As long as I've been reading here, he has never speculated. Perhaps took something as an example to illustrate a point. But that's it. I stick to the visible progress of the company, which is evident and accessible to everyone. Additionally, there are links and sources provided here where you can read up if you missed something. Overall, as a shareholder, there's not much else to do. So, what exactly do you want with your post?
I want the board to be more creative in the way it is marketing Akida IP.
eg There isn't much point in dot drawing between us and Valeo, if Valeo doesn't make their own chips.
So if Valeo doesn't make proprietary chips then Brainchip needs to put Valeo in touch with say, Megachips. And if some of the sensors that Valeo needs is event vision, then we need to bring in Prophesee, for example. So now you have a consortium that might put together a chip, that all the members can profit from.
So I want to see not just individual dot joining but grouping of companies - eg a tweet from Valeo saying they are partnering with a consortium that includes Brainchip.
And this is different from what we are currently seeing.
Ultimately I trust the board not to keep asking for trust, but tweak their approach until something happens.
Ok, why you don’t apply for a job at brainchip so you can change it? Maybe you are the person They are waiting for so long, if you have so much ideas
in this forum you will not change anything
DingoBorat
Slim
Why do you think it's called "building an ecosystem" for, Iseki?...
In fact your whole post is basically saying "why doesn't BrainChip build some kind of ecosystem"..
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Hi DB,
We've built the eco-system. Now we need contracts that lock in some of that ecosystem into a consortium that will actually produce what smaller members of the ecosystem can use. It needs to be set up by BrainChip as it's all about a chip with our IP. But all can profit.
It really is Dio's answer in a question: Who will herd the cats? That's Sean's job. Right there.
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