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It was all aboard on Chipper
Wow, wow. wwwwow.
After listening to this EEJournal interview one doesn't need a PhD in neuromorphic inferencing to appreciate that Brainchip/Akida is light years ahead of Intel/Loihi for commercial implementation of neuromorphic whatever. I'm in a state of gobsmackery.......That is my favorite Australian state.
Curious to know how Intel handles their new formal relationship with Brainchip. Do they tout 'rival' technology. It will only bring more focus on how far behind they are. Do they buy Brainchip for what would have to be an outrageous sum....and fold on their Loihi aspirations. Do they suppress Akida's wonderfulness. What gives?
You can see that I am struggling mightily with this.
Help me find the roadmap.....to peace and prosperity and understanding
On a personal note.....leaving Waiheke Island tomorrow (it has been fabuloso)....for my home .. Mexico.
Feliz Navidad a todos y hasta pronto
TBC
Seem to use different architecture and far too much power. I will await the verdict of @DiogeneseAxelera launches RISC-V AI platform for edge vision
Axelera AI has launched a platform that combines its Metis AI Processing Unit (AIPU) chips, RISC-V controller and Voyager SDK software stack.www.eenewseurope.com
Thanks for your reply, it’s well outside my understanding of technology. I only know how to turn a computer on and offSeem to use different architecture and far too much power. I will await the verdict of @Diogenese
My opinion only DYOR
FF
AKIDA BALLISTA
Hi FF , further to your post, I really like where nViso are taking us with their Neuro Models apps. To me they seem that they are easily deployable and quick to get started. The one thing I don’t understand is how revenue would come in from the apps though. Would it be a one off license fee perhaps , or an amount for each app downloaded? Anyway, wishing everyone a safe and happy Christmas200 million cameras at $10.00 each is a 2 billion dollar market but highly likely much larger as some cameras will be much more expensive but just one percent of a 2 billion dollar market is 20 million dollars.
Because some here are new to why I keep bringing up one percent a little bit of history.
Back at the HC cesspit a couple of the more intelligent worms attacked the idea that Brainchip would capture one hundred percent of the market faced with competition from the tech giants Nvidia, Intel, Samsung, Qualcomm, Google and Apple.
I approached this argument from the perspective that the Edge market both existing and still to be thought of was so huge that even capturing a tiny little one percent of that market was hugely rewarding for Brainchip with a profit margin of 97%.
I took this argument then to another level by issuing a challenge which was to put a compelling argument as to why Brainchip with the first commercial neuromorphic chip and IP in the market and a three year lead over its nearest competitor would not capture one percent of the addressable market.
Strangely no one ever took up this challenge.
Now one further point to consider and which I add to my one percent argument.
Development Time Lines:
We have seen from Sony and Prophesee, Brainchip and Renesas, Brainchip and Socionext that it takes approximately 3 years to develop a product from the point of technology adoption.
So consider this Brainchip stands with a three year technology lead soon to become five years with AKIDA 2.0.
If a company wants to implement a neuromorphic solution today it will be three years before they can buy an alternative solution to AKIDA and then a further three years to develop the desired product.
What this means is that failure to take up an AKIDA solution today by a company will mean a potential delay of six years or more until they can bring their product idea to market.
A company in the technology space that waits six years to capitalise on a product idea will most likely have badly missed the boat.
So while I use the one percent argument I personally like many here have much higher expectations than one tiny percent of the addressable market.
Indeed realistically if you consider Renesas, Socionext, MegaChips and Prophesee as standalone engagements I believe it is reasonable to argue they have secured for Brainchip already a percentage of market share over the next year or so far greater than one percent.
I will leave it to others to ponder the percentage points Edge Impulse, ARM and Intel will add to this secured percentage over the same time frame before Mercedes Benz, Valeo and Ford start to contribute in 2024.
It all comes together to make having a plan for ‘when not if’ compulsory.
My opinion only DYOR
FF
AKIDA BALLISTA
Its all about Transforming..I have notice in the last few days on Sydney Commercial TV, that DELL and INTEL are promoting each other in a joint commercial ........... Seems IMO as though Intel wants to improve their net working / associations of late.
That is such sad news the day before Christmas. Anil how could you say this now.
Love this, also he liked an SoC Engineering job a Nvidia a month ago… partners on automotive SoCs?
Hi @TopCatHi FF , further to your post, I really like where nViso are taking us with their Neuro Models apps. To me they seem that they are easily deployable and quick to get started. The one thing I don’t understand is how revenue would come in from the apps though. Would it be a one off license fee perhaps , or an amount for each app downloaded? Anyway, wishing everyone a safe and happy Christmas
Thanks for your reply but I didn’t understand anything you said until I got to the picture of the thumbs downThank you Mccabe84 - the best Christmas presentan AI-NN-ML geek could have in the Alexera presentation:
https://www.axelera.ai/digital-in-memory-computing-for-deep-learning-acceleration/
I'm not sure how far along the Road to Damascus Alexera CTO Evangelos ELEFTHERIOU was when he was struck by the analog/digital divide, but the slide presentation is a wonderful assemblage of the pros and cons.
The patents below were filed in April and October 2020 in the name of IBM naming Alexera CTO Evangelos ELEFTHERIOU as an inventor.
There are no published patent applications in the name of Alexera AI.
Looking at the timeline, ELEFTHERIOU joined Alexera as CTO a year after the patents were filed, yet within a few months Alexera, which was founded in July 2021 (having been in stealth mode since Q4 2019) was taping out its test chip in December 2021.
https://www.axelera.ai/our-story/
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WO2021220069A2 CROSSBAR ARRAYS FOR COMPUTATIONS IN MEMORY-AUGMENTED NEURAL NETWORKS
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Inventors: BOHNSTINGL THOMAS [CH]; PANTAZI ANGELIKI [CH]; WOZNIAK STANISLAW [CH]; EVANGELOS ELEFTHERIOU (CH)
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In a hardware-implemented approach for operating a neural network system, a neural network system is provided comprising a controller, a memory, and an interface connecting the controller to the memory, where the controller comprises a processing unit configured to execute a neural network and the memory comprises a neuromorphic memory device with a crossbar array structure that includes input lines and output lines interconnected at junctions via electronic devices. The electronic devices of the neuromorphic memory device are programmed to incrementally change states by coupling write signals into the input lines based on: write instructions received from the controller and write vectors generated by the interface. Data is retrieved from the neuromorphic memory device, according to a multiply-accumulate operation, by coupling read signals into one or more of the input lines of the neuromorphic memory device based on: read instructions from the controller and read vectors generated by the interface.
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The present disclosure relates to a storage device comprising a memory element. The memory element may comprise a changeable physical quantity for storing information. The physical quantity may be in a drifted state. The memory element may be configured for setting the physical quantity to an initial state. Furthermore, the memory element may comprise a drift of the physical quantity from the initial state to the drifted state. The initial state of the physical quantity may be computable by means of an initialization function. The initialization function may be dependent on a target state of the physical quantity and the target state of the physical quantity may be approximately equal to the drifted state of the physical quantity.
from Alexera's Technology page:
https://www.axelera.ai/technology/
In-memory computing is a radically different approach to data processing, in which crossbar arrays of memory devices can be used to store a matrix and perform matrix-vector multiplications “in-place” without intermediate movement of data. Our proprietary Digital In-Memory Computing (D-IMC) technology is key to delivering high energy efficiency and outstanding performance. Based on SRAM (Static Random-Access Memory) combined with digital computations, each memory cell effectively becomes a compute element. This radically increases the number of operations per computer cycle (one multiplication and one accumulation per cycle per memory cell) without suffering from issues such as noise or lower accuracy.
https://www.axelera.ai/digital-in-memory-computing-for-deep-learning-acceleration/
Our CTO and Co-Founder Evangelos Eleftheriou, presented at the ESSCIRC – ESSDERC 2022 event about In-memory computing for deep-learning acceleration.
In-memory computing (IMC) is a novel computing paradigm, where certain computational tasks are performed in the memory itself using analog or mixed signal computation techniques.
In his presentation he shares a broad overview of the recent progress of IMC for accelerating deep learning workloads, highlighting the strengths and weaknesses of the various approaches.
Learn all about it in his presentation.
I've attached a few selected slides, but the Grinch @Zeebot limits the number of files that can be attached, so I recommend you skim through the slides:
https://www.axelera.ai/digital-in-memory-computing-for-deep-learning-acceleration/
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Edit: Sorry I forgot the original question: This is not Akida.
All I could think of while reading your post FF:It will in my opinion be impossible for Intel to suppress "AKIDA's wonderfulness" given that they do not have an exclusive relationship.
If they tried to downplay its applications any semiconductor customer would clearly ask the question "Well if that's the case why does ARM promote the use of AKIDA across virtually every use case you can possibly imagine???"
They may even ask "Well why does Edge Impulse say that it outcompetes a GPU running at 900 gigahertz."
They may even ask "Why does Mercedes Benz use it for voice and claim that it is up to 10 times more efficient than competitor solutions???"
They may even ask "If it is like you say why do Valeo and NASA trust them???"
They may even ask "Why is MegaChips so heavily promoting Brainchip and its AKIDA solution???"
They may even ask "Why is Prophesee partnering with them for event based sensors???"
They may even ask "Why is Renesas taping out an intelligent AKIDA powered MCU for automotive???
They may even ask "Why has Socionext launched a new AKIDA powered semiconductor range???
Personally how Intel handles the problem is irrelevant the fact that they have brought Brainchip and AKIDA technology into the fold clearly indicates they understand that this was essential if they are to remain relevant in the neuromorphic chip space.
While Mike Davies is trying to talk the talk Brainchip and AKIDA are actually walking the walk and as I said earlier increasing the technology lead they have with every single step.
Loihi 1 & 2 with the release of the Renesas AKIDA MCU falls six years behind. Three years of technology lead plus three years of product development.
Loihi 1 & 2 with the release of the Socionext AKIDA offering falls six years behind. Three years of technology lead plus three years of product development.
Loihi 1 & 2 with the Mercedes Benz and Valeo AKIDA powered product offerings in 2024 falls six years behind. Two years of technology lead plus four years of product development. Product development could be even longer as we have some uncertainty around the exact date they became involved with Brainchip.
Whether they are speaking about it openly or not Blind Freddie is of the opinion that if he knows these obvious facts that Intel must know and have a very large file of documents in which they have debated their present course of action leading to the obvious conclusion that we cannot beat them so we just have to join them or go the way of Kodak where neuromorphic computing is concerned.
Have a very Merry Christmas back in Mexico.
My opinion only DYOR
FF
AKIDA BALLISTA
Title | CSIA-ICCAD 2022 Annual Conference & Guangzhou IC Industry Innovation and Development Summit (ICCAD 2022) |
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Days | December 26 Mon. to December 27 Tue. |
Venue | Xiamen International Conference & Exhibition Center, Hall C2-C4 |
Sponsor | China Semiconductor Industry Association IC Design Branch, etc. |
Register | Registration and Participation |
Exhibiting Booth | Socionext Booth(No. C3-301) |
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Exhibits | Next Generation Graphics Display Controller for Automotive AI Accelerator for Deep Learning 24GHz/60GHz Radio-wave Ranging Sensor Smart home appliances developed in partnership with local Chinese companies, etc. |
Time Schedule | December 27 Tue. 10:40 ‐ 11:00 (CST) |
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Venue | Xiamen International Conference & Exhibition Center, Room 303 |
Main Title | IP & IC Design Services |
Sub Title | High Performance Customized SoC Design --- Enabling a Future that Customers Can Envision |
Speaker | Mike Xie, Marketing Director, Socionext Technology (Shanghai) Co., Ltd. |
We dont need ChinaLooks like SOCIONEXT is spreading the word about its fantastic products featuring Akida IP around the WORLD
Big Tech event in China 26/27th DEC
Big market CHINA!!!!!!!!!!
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Socionext Inc. will be exhibiting at the ICCAD 2022 event to be held in Xiamen, China on December 26 and 27, 2022.
Demand for improvements in the energy efficiency and the computational efficiency and capacity of integrated circuits continues to grow, driven by dramatic advances over recent years in applications such as artificial intelligence, autonomous driving, and large data centers.
Against this background, Socionext has been pursuing its own unique “Solution SoC” business model in its role as an industry-leading supplier of SoCs, building deep relationships of trust with its customers throughout the world and supplying custom SoC services that utilize leading-edge technologies to support development of the differentiated products and services that customers are calling for.
At the upcoming ICCAD event, Socionext will be exhibiting advanced technologies and solutions with a particular focus on autonomous driving, smart cockpits, and smart home appliances, accompanying this with presentations on the company’s ongoing research and development work that is aimed at meeting ever-evolving market needs.
Event Information
Title CSIA-ICCAD 2022 Annual Conference & Guangzhou IC Industry Innovation and Development Summit (ICCAD 2022) Days December 26 Mon. to December 27 Tue. Venue Xiamen International Conference & Exhibition Center, Hall C2-C4 Sponsor China Semiconductor Industry Association IC Design Branch, etc. Register Registration and Participation
Exhibition Information
Exhibiting Booth Socionext Booth(No. C3-301) Exhibits
Next Generation Graphics Display Controller for Automotive
AI Accelerator for Deep Learning
24GHz/60GHz Radio-wave Ranging Sensor
Smart home appliances developed in partnership with local Chinese companies, etc.
Forum Information
Time Schedule December 27 Tue. 10:40 ‐ 11:00 (CST) Venue Xiamen International Conference & Exhibition Center, Room 303 Main Title IP & IC Design Services Sub Title High Performance Customized SoC Design
--- Enabling a Future that Customers Can EnvisionSpeaker Mike Xie, Marketing Director, Socionext Technology (Shanghai) Co., Ltd.