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charles2

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It’s only just hit me that this quote is from 2004 and so when we all say 10x Microsoft we’re actually referring to 10x it’s 2004 market cap. I’ve for some reason always assumed it’s current market cap having not considered timing of the quote.

Microsoft’s market cap was $2.9B in 2004.

That would put BRN at $29B and a share price of $16.90.

I’m a little disappointed. $16.90 sounds good, however, it is significantly below what I was hoping over a 10-20 year period.

Can we all please agree to start saying 100x Microsoft?

$290B market cap with $169 share price sounds like something I could settle for.

Cheers
You've failed to account for inflation between 2004 and 2022.....18 years. That should provide a welcome bump to your estimate.
Cheers
 
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SERA2g

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Here's a treasured happy snap from earlier this year...., and looking forward to doubling that number soon :)

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Touche mate.

Inflation rate is 1.6129 according to this website

46.77B and share price of $27.25.

I’d still rather $169.
Hey SERA, good links you've provided in regards to Microsoft's market cap over the years and the inflation rate.

According to your Microsoft link it's market cap in 2004 was about $290B USD, so Bill Gates was actually thinking about 2.9T USD.

That would then equate to about 4.677T USD after your inflation rate between then and now.

Then we convert that to Aussie dollars (today's exchange rate of 1.5) which is about 7.02T AUD market cap.

This would then equate to a share price today of about $4,034 AUD.

In other words, I like them numbers, haha.
 
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Dallas

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Jetson Orin verfügt über eine NVIDIA Ampere-Architektur-GPU, Arm-basierte CPUs, Deep-Learning- und Bildbeschleuniger der nächsten Generation, Hochgeschwindigkeitsschnittstellen, schnelle Speicherbandbreite und multimodale Sensorunterstützung. Diese Leistung und Vielseitigkeit ermöglicht es mehr Kunden, Produkte zu kommerzialisieren, die einst unmöglich schienen, von Ingenieuren, die modernste KI-Anwendungen liefern, bis hin zu Entwicklern von Robotics Operating System (ROS), die intelligente Maschinen der nächsten Generation bauen.
 
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Die vor anderthalb Jahren vorgestellte Plattform Drive Atlan ist bei Nvidia bereits Geschichte und wird durch Drive Thor mit einer Leistung von 2.000 TFLOPS abgelöst. Es soll aber noch im selben Jahr 2025 einsatzbereit sein. Thor ist ein zentraler Computer mit Funktionen für autonomes Fahren, Monitoring, Infotainment und mehr.
 
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Jetson Orin verfügt über eine NVIDIA Ampere-Architektur-GPU, Arm-basierte CPUs, Deep-Learning- und Bildbeschleuniger der nächsten Generation, Hochgeschwindigkeitsschnittstellen, schnelle Speicherbandbreite und multimodale Sensorunterstützung. Diese Leistung und Vielseitigkeit ermöglicht es mehr Kunden, Produkte zu kommerzialisieren, die einst unmöglich schienen, von Ingenieuren, die modernste KI-Anwendungen liefern, bis hin zu Entwicklern von Robotics Operating System (ROS), die intelligente Maschinen der nächsten Generation bauen.
Es ist wahrscheinlich gut, dass NVIDIA ARM nicht gekauft hat
 
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Die vor anderthalb Jahren vorgestellte Plattform Drive Atlan ist bei Nvidia bereits Geschichte und wird durch Drive Thor mit einer Leistung von 2.000 TFLOPS abgelöst. Es soll aber noch im selben Jahr 2025 einsatzbereit sein. Thor ist ein zentraler Computer mit Funktionen für autonomes Fahren, Monitoring, Infotainment und mehr.
Die einzige wichtige Metrik ist TFLOPS pro WATT
 
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Interesting article. Software needs hardware:


My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA
 
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Video questioning about asic being corrupt
 
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Sirod69

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today we heard that putin is starting a referendum on his conquered territories in ukraine to designate it as russian territory, so he can say if ukraine tries to retake this it means war, so far he has been adamant about his country to liberate Ukraine from the Nazis, I know I never wanted to get political, unfortunately we in Europe are now in an economic war and my gas bill has been calculated four times as high... nevertheless I am on the side of Ukraine and I hope Australia sees it that way too, I'm sorry, I had to write it like that now
 
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Funny how these shorters make it so obvious with dropping the price with sells of 25 to 35 shares per transaction!

Most of "us" investors know its not worth selling that small amount due to fees.
 
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Funny how these shorters make it so obvious with dropping the price with sells of 25 to 35 shares per transaction!

Most of "us" investors know its not worth selling that small amount due to fees.

Typical WANCA behaviour by them......just playing with themselves :ROFLMAO:
 
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The immediate sell side, is looking thinner than Putin's conscience..

Hold on tight to the tickets of your future, possibly generational (if you have enough) wealth! (not financial advice 😛).

Any selling pressure has to be from shorters, in my opinion and they are losing.

Aggregate shorts, as of the 15th of September, are at the highest ever (good for us) at over 94 million!

I'm eagerly awaiting data for after the 16th, as this was when over 10 million additional shorts were taken out.
This was also the day that around 35 million shares, changed hands in the closing auction..

As someone suggested, was this part of a "get out of jail free" card, that was gifted to trapped shorts??

Exciting times!

New shorts dropped to 119 thousand yesterday!
That is very surprising, to see a number that low, with a Fed decision due..
It's worth noting though, that these are "reported" shorts, so they can only ever really be a guide and the possibility of deception by financial institutions (Citicorp having been found guilty and wrist slapped by ASIC in the past) is always there..
 
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Bravo

If ARM was an arm, BRN would be its biceps💪!
Check out this article dated 18 September 2022, entitled - "Mercedes-Benz Boasts Automated Driving Redundancy Strategy, Elon should see it".

Here's two extracts I found particularly interesting, with the entire article following.

Elon should see it, he-he-he!!!

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Earlier this year, in March, Mercedes-Benz announced that it will accept liability if the new S-Class crashes while driving on the company’s Drive Pilot. The system was demonstrated in its automated valet parking mode during the same month and later offered in production cars starting in May 2022. Now, the brand underlined its redundancy strategy.


Mercedes-Benz Boasts Automated Driving Redundancy Strategy, Elon Should See It​


Home > News > Coverstory
18 Sep 2022, 20:04 UTC ·
by Sebastian Toma
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Ever since December 2021, Mercedes-Benz's Drive Pilot has become the world’s first internationally certified SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) Level 3 driving system. Initially, it was only available as an option for the EQS and the S-Class in Germany, but its availability was extended to other markets later this year, including the U.S., and its certification level has yet to be matched by any automaker.

Mercedes-Benz is proud of this, as one could imagine, and the company states that it has been possible thanks to its safety-focused approach to system design.

The German marque underlines the use of physical and functional redundancy for steering, braking, power supply, and some parts of the sensor system. In other words, the vehicles that have the system come with backup solutions that work seamlessly when something goes wrong.

For example, all the sensors used for the steering motor, battery, and wheel speed are duplicated for good measure, and the algorithms that make them work have been adapted accordingly. Redundancies in the sensor system have been achieved by blending optical sensors, referred to as cameras, with radio sensors, and LiDAR.


There are even moisture sensors, microphones, and ultrasound sensors that deliver data that even human drivers might not have access to. After all, you have no idea what the outside humidity is like when you drive, but these sensors will know all about it.

Thanks to a suite of computers, the system will never be tired and will always score maximum points at its reaction times, unlike a human driver.

The entire system involves over 30 sensors to make sure that reliable driving is possible with the setup, and we cannot wait to test it out in the real world against other systems that claim to do something similar. Who knows, maybe a large technology supplier might organize a face-off with, say, Tesla’s Autopilot.

Yes, we did it, we mentioned Tesla, and we did that because the American company cannot pride itself on the same certification as Mercedes-Benz painstakingly obtained for its system.


Moreover, Tesla vehicles do not come with LiDAR sensors, so they rely on optical ones, along with a few other sensors, to keep the vehicle on the road. We have seen teardowns of Tesla vehicles, and there is no sign of sensor redundancy strategies.

Coming back to the ‘Benz, the Drive Pilot system has a few limitations, such as velocity, as well as the kind of roads that it can operate on. For example, a Mercedes-Benz with Drive Pilot can have its driver switch the system on to drive the vehicle on highways at speeds of up to 37 mph (ca. 60 kph) when heavy traffic or traffic jams are observed.

As Mercedes-Benz explains, if one part of the system fails, the rest are prepared to help the driver make a safe handover. If the latter is not complied with by the driver, the vehicle is capable of safely coming to a slow and steady stop that does not pose a risk to traffic following behind. The vehicle’s systems then presume that a medical emergency has occurred, and then they notify the driver that an emergency call will be made.

Having experienced an advanced Level 2 system in a Mercedes-Benz, I can say that the vehicle can figure out where it cannot stop and that it will continue to drive with its hazard lights on at a slow pace until it finds a place that it considers suitable to stop.


I did not let the vehicle call the authorities, but it did find a straight piece of road that was far enough from a corner to allow the drivers behind to avoid the vehicle that I was driving.

Returning to the Drive Pilot system, a company official noted that “the use of multiple sensors is particularly indispensable, as it helps them compensate for the situation-dependent deficits of one sensor with the characteristics of another.

Markus Schafer, Member of the Board of Management of Mercedes-Benz Group AG and Chief Technology Officer, who is also responsible for Development and Procurement, has also noted that “relying on just one type of sensor would not meet Mercedes-Benz's high safety standards.” One can only wonder if the official was thinking of another brand in particular when he made that statement.

For example, the automated parking valet mode, which Mercedes-Benz calls Intelligent Park Pilot (written in FULL CAPS, nonetheless), is a splendid example of SAE Level 4 autonomy, as the company describes, while the Drive Pilot system is Level 3 autonomy according to SAE.

The difference is that Level 4 can operate without a driver behind the wheel in certain conditions. For now, those are limited to parking lots with dedicated sensors, but V2X tech will improve, and the vehicles of the future will be able to park themselves while you are already in line to pick up your latte.


Mercedes-Benz prides itself on installing the technology and sensors for its Intelligent Park Pilot, or pre-installation as the company describes it, for the moment when the technology will be approved in multiple markets.

The activation might happen Over-The-Air, Tesla-style, and we must hand it to them to prove that it can be made possible and that a manufacturer can survive by selling only electric vehicles. The latter two are things that nobody can take away from Tesla, as nobody can take Mercedes-Benz's title of having the world's first internationally certified SAE Level 3 system.

 
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