cruiser51
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He could well be dangling from his Hills Hoist in one of Hobart's suburbs, it is called hanging out to dry, or his HK taxi driver wanted to be paid for his inside info, or the ATO finally caught up with him, but who really cares?
AVZ Discussion 2022
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I think after years of trolling AVZ using a dozen different aliases across multiple platforms Shane finally realised that his class action strategy (and the rest of it) didn't have legs. His HKTD probably told him that CATH is going to table an offer at some point and he's wasting his time. It's pretty clear that he didn't pass the message onto to Leonard. Never forget these arse wipes and their part in all of this.
Rechnerhand
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Anyone can help in finding the page at 'Kobold Metals' with News?
I guess they've updated their page and kicked out the 'News' now.
I guess they've updated their page and kicked out the 'News' now.
I had the same problem. Looks like they deleted that section.
The Wayback Machine is your friend in this scenario if you are after old versions of websites. They seem to have updated their webpage and removed news but it was still there when last captured on Oct 11. https://web.archive.org/web/20250901000000*/https://koboldmetals.com/
As a boy I loved The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle, and particularly Mr Peabody's wayback machine, Boris & Natasha and the dog that sniggered.
When I was about six, I tried building a wayback machine in the old man's garage, but I closest I got to a working prototype was shorting fuses in the family truckster. Maybe after this Manono shit-fight is finalised I can finish it, and do a Putin on that odious grub Kibeya.
Cheers
F
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I've spent the last few years building a time machine but it only works to go forward at normal speed. If only I could get the backward function working. Then I could go back and not waste my time on it.
As a boy I loved The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle, and particularly Mr Peabody's wayback machine, Boris & Natasha and the dog that sniggered.
When I was about six, I tried building a wayback machine in the old man's garage, but I closest I got to a working prototype was shorting fuses in the family truckster. Maybe after this Manono shit-fight is finalised I can finish it, and do a Putin on that odious grub Kibeya.
Cheers
F
Remark
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Well, you can take your barbiturates and just fark right off
Suspended WA mineral exploration company AVZ Minerals Limited (AVZ) and two of its directors failed to disclose critical market information about a lithium project in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), ASIC alleges in new proceedings filed today in the Federal Court.
ASIC alleges AVZ breached continuous disclosure obligations and engaged in misleading and deceptive conduct by failing to announce an escalating legal dispute in the DRC relating to the acquisition of shares in AVZ’s flagship Manono Project to the Australian Securities Exchange (ASX).
ASIC also alleges AVZ’s Managing Director Nigel Ferguson and Technical Director Graeme Johnston breached their director’s duties, authorised or permitted ASX announcements relating to AVZ that were false or misleading, or omitted matters that rendered them misleading.
ASIC Deputy Chair Sarah Court said, ‘proper disclosures were critically important to investors, particularly when the company is operating an asset overseas.
‘In this case it was all but impossible for retail investors to travel to an overseas location in central Africa, in which the company’s operations are being conducted. In those circumstances, investors rely on the company to provide accurate and timely information. We allege Mr Ferguson and Mr Johnston failed to inform investors of the ongoing issues in this matter for nearly 12 months.
‘The pair allegedly failed to take reasonable steps to ensure AVZ complied with its continuous disclosure obligations and that statements to the ASX were not misleading or deceptive.
‘Continuous disclosure and director duties are not only legal obligations they are fundamental principles that protect the integrity of financial markets.
‘ASIC is committed to taking action against any entities we consider fail to meet these obligations, to ensure accountability and to maintain investor confidence,’ Ms Court said.
On 4 May 2022, AVZ confirmed to the market that it retained legal title to a 75% interest in the Manono Project however went on to refer to ‘recent media speculation in respect of several matters in connection with AVZ's interest in the Manono Project, which the Company considers spurious and immaterial’.
The matters included :‘... reference to a decision by 'Le Tribunal de Grande Instance' in the DRC ... in respect of a claim by Dathomir Mining Resources SARL regarding the validity of a share certificate and an extract of a shareholders' registry from Dathcom....’
This was the first reference made by AVZ to a legal dispute that had commenced in mid-2021.
ASIC is seeking declarations of contravention against AVZ, and declarations of contravention and pecuniary penalties against Mr Ferguson and Mr Johnston.
I imagine we'll see an announcement soon.
ASIC alleges AVZ breached continuous disclosure obligations and engaged in misleading and deceptive conduct by failing to announce an escalating legal dispute in the DRC relating to the acquisition of shares in AVZ’s flagship Manono Project to the Australian Securities Exchange (ASX).
ASIC also alleges AVZ’s Managing Director Nigel Ferguson and Technical Director Graeme Johnston breached their director’s duties, authorised or permitted ASX announcements relating to AVZ that were false or misleading, or omitted matters that rendered them misleading.
ASIC Deputy Chair Sarah Court said, ‘proper disclosures were critically important to investors, particularly when the company is operating an asset overseas.
‘In this case it was all but impossible for retail investors to travel to an overseas location in central Africa, in which the company’s operations are being conducted. In those circumstances, investors rely on the company to provide accurate and timely information. We allege Mr Ferguson and Mr Johnston failed to inform investors of the ongoing issues in this matter for nearly 12 months.
‘The pair allegedly failed to take reasonable steps to ensure AVZ complied with its continuous disclosure obligations and that statements to the ASX were not misleading or deceptive.
‘Continuous disclosure and director duties are not only legal obligations they are fundamental principles that protect the integrity of financial markets.
‘ASIC is committed to taking action against any entities we consider fail to meet these obligations, to ensure accountability and to maintain investor confidence,’ Ms Court said.
On 4 May 2022, AVZ confirmed to the market that it retained legal title to a 75% interest in the Manono Project however went on to refer to ‘recent media speculation in respect of several matters in connection with AVZ's interest in the Manono Project, which the Company considers spurious and immaterial’.
The matters included :‘... reference to a decision by 'Le Tribunal de Grande Instance' in the DRC ... in respect of a claim by Dathomir Mining Resources SARL regarding the validity of a share certificate and an extract of a shareholders' registry from Dathcom....’
This was the first reference made by AVZ to a legal dispute that had commenced in mid-2021.
ASIC is seeking declarations of contravention against AVZ, and declarations of contravention and pecuniary penalties against Mr Ferguson and Mr Johnston.
I imagine we'll see an announcement soon.
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impeccable timing, the closest we have been to an outcome and then we get smacked in the ass with this crap from ASIC who no doubtedly been ear bashed by tolate and the likes. cant wait for the the DRC/Ruwanda peace deal to be signed, a comercially viable offer is made to AVZ and then AVZ wipe the floor with ASIC .
Samus
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While this is evidently the case and many of us complained about it at the time I fail to see how this can possibly help investors in any way.
No doubt this opens the flood gate for the class action as well.
Honestly the situation for us 'investors' seems more and more dire. Zero word from management pertaining to any sort of final resolution either.
I guess one question though is, how will this development impact upon any discussions or negotiations thats are being had with external parties that may be interested in purchasing AVZs interest in Manono.
Surely it will have some level of implications for any potential sale - beyond how our gleeful opposition will undoubtedly portray this, that is.
Every time things appear like there may be a glimmer of hope, then another negative bombshell hits.
Wouldn't mind getting off of this ride!
I don't see how this would impact discussions in any meaningful way. Thinking a buyer will walk away because there is a fine hanging over AVZ's head? Aus gov stands to make vastly more off the tax event of a sale of AVZ.
Skar
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You really gotta start to wonder if there has been any international pressure applied from US or other sharks circling... why now, just as lithium is heating up again.
Here's my thoughts. Keep in mind I don't really know anything about the laws and ramifications etc just speculating here.
The directors of the company are not the company. The company owns the rights to the project regardless of what happens to the directors.
Whether the directors of the company get fined for non-disclosure doesn't really effect how badly the suitors may want the resource. There's existing relationships between the directors and suitors. I am assuming that both China and the west (or whoever) want this resource badly, who ever is most progressed in discussions probably doesn't want to risk a change of directors as it adds uncertainty to their plans. A new executive may be put in that favours the opposition more. Will this speed things up? Maybe, maybe not. I dont think it's heaps bad for the negotiations, maybe just a little.
I don't think this is a situation where a suitor is thinking 'lets wait and see what happens'. IMO it's more, 'lets continue trying to proceed as planned, that has nothing to do with us'
Another thought? Maybe the directors now feel if they don't pull this off soon they'll have a bunch of angry shareholders after them.
The directors of the company are not the company. The company owns the rights to the project regardless of what happens to the directors.
Whether the directors of the company get fined for non-disclosure doesn't really effect how badly the suitors may want the resource. There's existing relationships between the directors and suitors. I am assuming that both China and the west (or whoever) want this resource badly, who ever is most progressed in discussions probably doesn't want to risk a change of directors as it adds uncertainty to their plans. A new executive may be put in that favours the opposition more. Will this speed things up? Maybe, maybe not. I dont think it's heaps bad for the negotiations, maybe just a little.
I don't think this is a situation where a suitor is thinking 'lets wait and see what happens'. IMO it's more, 'lets continue trying to proceed as planned, that has nothing to do with us'
Another thought? Maybe the directors now feel if they don't pull this off soon they'll have a bunch of angry shareholders after them.
Hopefully your right, and it doesnt impact anything. It may well not.
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David Krappenschitz
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I don't see how management not informing SHs of certain issues going on in the background has anything to do with AVZs legal rights to the project. I can't see how from a legal standpoint how there'd be any overlap. Two separate issues entirely imo
Skar
Regular
I think the issue is around not disclosing to the market the legal action taking place in DRC. Not the rights of the project. ASIC should not have made a move until the situation was resolved, they have just royally F'd us all over.
Class Action, Probity.... it all just feels like someone trying to apply leverage, timing too suspect.
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