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Powerage

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That’s about aud 4 cents a share just for the penalties so far…
 
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Are the $ penalties imposed still ongoing,? If so, what is the tally now?
Still accruing. If I recall correctly the €39 million was accrued between the initial orders and Dec 2024. It includes amounts related to tweets by Criminiere (CNTS) so it's a little more complicated to determine the current tally than just X days times €100,000. For a rough number just double the original amount since we're approaching Dec 2025 and the silly CNTS were tweeting again this year.

As I understand it we would need another application to liquidate any further penalties and the court would determine an amount at that time. Others likely understand it all better than me. If so then please correct anything that's wrong here.
 

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Sangster

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That timer is brilliant spike. Thanks for taking the time to build it.
 
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Still accruing. If I recall correctly the €39 million was accrued between the initial orders and Dec 2024. It includes amounts related to tweets by Criminiere (CNTS) so it's a little more complicated to determine the current tally than just X days times €100,000. For a rough number just double the original amount since we're approaching Dec 2025 and the silly CNTS were tweeting again this year.

As I understand it we would need another application to liquidate any further penalties and the court would determine an amount at that time. Others likely understand it all better than me. If so then please correct anything that's wrong here.
All of this shit is still active plus Cominiere have been flagrantly adding to it with further actions

Despite my repeated efforts it's hard to describe just how damaging this is on a legal basis for Cominiere and their west taiwanese business daddies

Nigel could literally turkey slap an arbiter at this point and we would still win imo

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Spikerama

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Brilliant - you should post that on X

It has been shared on X multiple times by many in here as replies to multiple relevant posts by CKK and other DRC politicians.

You should post it on X.
 
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Still accruing. If I recall correctly the €39 million was accrued between the initial orders and Dec 2024. It includes amounts related to tweets by Criminiere (CNTS) so it's a little more complicated to determine the current tally than just X days times €100,000. For a rough number just double the original amount since we're approaching Dec 2025 and the silly CNTS were tweeting again this year.

As I understand it we would need another application to liquidate any further penalties and the court would determine an amount at that time. Others likely understand it all better than me. If so then please correct anything that's wrong here.
Thanks Sangster👍
 
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cruiser51

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This week should be interesting. We already know the Felix is currently in Doha as of yesterday. (He arrived yesterday in Doha)
Taking his track record in consideration, he will have a new surprise for uncle Don.

Let's say a pizza surprise.
 
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All of this shit is still active plus Cominiere have been flagrantly adding to it with further actions

Despite my repeated efforts it's hard to describe just how damaging this is on a legal basis for Cominiere and their west taiwanese business daddies

Nigel could literally turkey slap an arbiter at this point and we would still win imo

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Meanwhile this cunt flies across the globe to bounce through a tesla factory.

Fuck this week, fuck this year, fuck also the ASX
 
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Tianhua New Energy announced tonight that its actual controllers, Mr. Pei Zhenhua and Ms. Rong Jianfen, plan to transfer a total of 108 million unrestricted shares (representing 12.95% of the company) to CATL via an agreement transfer, at a price of RMB 24.49 per share — a total of RMB 2.635 billion (≈ USD 360 million).

Upon completion, CATL will hold 13.54% of Tianhua New Energy. The company stated that bringing in a strategic investor via such transfer would further optimize its shareholder structure.
 
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Spikerama

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Meanwhile this cunt flies across the globe to bounce through a tesla factory.

Fuck this week, fuck this year, fuck also the ASX

Dude! It's not even Friday.
 
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Sangster

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Thanks Sangster👍
It's also worth remembering the fines are not just €50,000 per day. They are €50,000 per day, per offence. My original suggestion to double it for a rough number is very low. Spikes timer is a much better indicator because it calculates the value from a single offence for each order from the date of each order. But as Carlos pointed out there were many offences considered last time accrued fines were liquidated and there have been many more offences since then.

So if AVZ were to apply for another liquidation of fines accrued as of Dec 31 2025 the amount owed to us by CriminalSA may be a lot higher than even the counter indicates.

However it's hard to estimate an accurate amount because the fines imposed for certain online offences such as tweets were deemed to have less impact over time, so the amount per day was reduced with each day after the posting. I'm going by memory here and haven't checked how this statement fits with the documentation so double check it. Maybe others can clarify if they know for sure.

The key points are:
  • The actual amount owed will be determined by the court next time we apply.
  • Spikes counter is the best estimate we have but it may well prove very conservative.
 
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