Bit of shame and scandal going on in your family hey tolate, you know that’s terrible.GEE this CONSTANT SPECULATION by this certain SHAME MOB is outrages...imo
We all KNOW NOTHING has happened, as AVZ has not UPDATED their S H...!...
That is FACTS ...NOT BLAH BLAH as other seem to like doing...imo....
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Trump Just Made A Move That Has His MAGA Base — Including Marjorie Taylor Greene — Fuming
Jazmin TolliverThu, August 28, 2025 at 2:56 AM GMT+9:30
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President Donald Trump’s supporters are railing against him after he announced plans to let 600,000 Chinese students into the United States to study amid ongoing trade talks with China.
""""""""""He added: “It’s very important. But we’re going to get along with China.”""""""""""""""""""'YES TRUMP SAID
Reading more into it though:
Koko knows they have to massively up their offer, and they want to, but the only way they can justify that is if the shitfukery is resolved and AVZ has a license.
I use to think they'd try and find a way to do these things simultaneously, but it seems like DRC needs to take the first step.
Lets see how that goes.
Schnitzelfresser
Regular
But license triggers CATH event?!
obe wan
Regular
The CATL event isn’t just based on award of a mining license to Dathcom by the DRC government, there’s also the required signing of a (CDA) collaboration development agreement & other associated terms which they didn’t expand on ; but the CDA contains subjects such as
*Project Development Framework - conditions around timelines, milestones & infrastructure requirements. ( there was chatter around this one before where unrealistic timeframes could be included putting pressure on us & considered incomplete by some giving rise to disputes)
*Government Support - terms associated with DRC government in providing necessary permits, licenses, and infrastructure support.provisions for regulatory approvals, tax incentives, or exemptions under the DRC Mining Code , ensuring a stable legal environment for investment
.*Economic and Social Benefits - DRC royalties & $$ uplift to local communities as well as stuff like social obligations e.g. community development programs, environmental protections.
*Ownership and Equity Adjustments - this one reflects the ownership structure of Dathcom, with AVZ holding 75% and Cominière 25%. formalizing of Cominière’s agreement to cede 10% of its stake to the DRC government upon license issuance, reducing its share to 15%.
The last one is a bit of a hand break I’d say as it does open up Cominieres decision of flogging the north to Z based on percentages that weren’t theirs to deal with.
What’s the chances that DRC government signitures are going to land in all the agreed term boxes as agreed between AVZ and CATL… highly unlikely I’d say
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Cobberoonski
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China will not/cannot offer the protection from M23 & Rwanda that the DRC so urgently need - the protection Felix was so desperate for when he first went cap in hand to the Don.
The DRC’s new reality is one way or another, Roche Dure will end up in US or US-aligned hands. The US are 3 parts through concluding the ‘security’ aspect of the minerals for security deal - all hell will rain down on Felix if he plays silly buggers & welches on the ‘minerals’ aspect of the deal (Roche Dure being the obvious first cab off the rank & pivotal to control of world lithium supply).
@JNRB, I agree with your thinking that the Roche Dure transfer should now be a simple fix. The DRC’s Sergeant Schultz approach to Zijin’s ‘Hand of God’ acquisition & nek minute exploitation of the CDL tenement tells me that red tape in the DRC is not an issue if the situation demands it.
With so many billions sitting on the sidelines while we await the inevitable outcome, the dragging out of the solution is agonising - Kobold want Roche Dure, Felix wants them to have it, AVZ want Kobold to have it, but the asset transfer is being held up for the sake of (in the scheme of things) a measly few billion dollars. Whoever needs to chip in - Zijin/Kobold/Rio/US govt/DRC (in-kind favours to US) - just get the fair cash settlement to AVZ together & get it done already! AVZ walks, DRC & someone else get rich together, embarrassment at ICC/ICSID goes away. Sure, DRC’s reputation is historically shot as far as investors ploughing big money into the place goes, but there’s a big big win to be had by someone here that has turned rolled gold now the Don is on the scene. Kobold demanding Felix now resolve the AVZ problem, when the problem can seemingly be sorted yesterday with a US$3-10billion AVZ payout, has the whiff of Kobold running out of ways to scrape together the proper coin needed.
As an aside, Xi’s world plan to take the big dog mantle from the US hinges on the geopolitical influence they can swing from belt & road/resource dominance - China has been eerily silent while the Don walks all over them in the DRC.
So we ALL support MAGA ...omg
Who will ENFORCE these ICSID matters"""""" the US""""...!....They are doing deals with the DRC...imo
“I hear so many stories that we’re not going to allow their students,” Trump told reporters in the White House on Monday. “We’re going to allow their students to come in. It’s very important, 600,000 students.”
TRUMP SAID...by YAHOO
He added: “It’s very important. But we’re going to get along with China.”
Who will ENFORCE these ICSID matters...imo
Cobberoonski
Member
Go back to bed dickhead, get out the other side of the bed & don’t come back here until you’ve got words on a page that can be understood by the English-speaking community.
IM hearing they are cleaning up the X forum, getting rid off all the TROLLS is this TRUE...IMO
Other FORUM need to follow suit..IMO
So many D H kicking around moving from one FORUM to the OTHER..imo...
AVZ has still not secured a DEAL by the looks, NO AVZ ANN yet...imo
US have their foot in the door with the DRC...imo...!
Other FORUM need to follow suit..IMO
So many D H kicking around moving from one FORUM to the OTHER..imo...
AVZ has still not secured a DEAL by the looks, NO AVZ ANN yet...imo
US have their foot in the door with the DRC...imo...!
Cobberoonski
Member
Do you have as much trouble reading and understanding English as you do when trying to write it?IM hearing they are cleaning up the X forum, getting rid off all the TROLLS is this TRUE...IMO
Other FORUM need to follow suit..IMO
So many D H kicking around moving from one FORUM to the OTHER..imo...
AVZ has still not secured a DEAL by the looks, NO AVZ ANN yet...imo
US have their foot in the door with the DRC...imo...!
I said DON’t come back here until you can put an understandable English sentence together.
Ever noticed how other people can manage to put together a sentence with words that make sense when you put them all together, without random capitals, without adding IMO to statements that are not opinions, without adding LMAO to statements that are not even mildly amusing? Piss off & and lay your clothes out for tomorrow’s school bus run.
…& by the way, the US have more than just a foot in the DRC door. You’re looting Chinese brethren have dropped the ball horrible in the DRC.
Cobberoonski
Member
Noted, sorry everyone.
Hi Obe great post . As usual the devil is in the detail. I like most others assume that the issuing of the mining licence automatically triggers the CATL deal but as you pointed out that is not necessarily the caseThe CATL event isn’t just based on award of a mining license to Dathcom by the DRC government, there’s also the required signing of a (CDA) collaboration development agreement & other associated terms which they didn’t expand on ; but the CDA contains subjects such as
*Project Development Framework - conditions around timelines, milestones & infrastructure requirements. ( there was chatter around this one before where unrealistic timeframes could be included putting pressure on us & considered incomplete by some giving rise to disputes)
*Government Support - terms associated with DRC government in providing necessary permits, licenses, and infrastructure support.provisions for regulatory approvals, tax incentives, or exemptions under the DRC Mining Code , ensuring a stable legal environment for investment
*Economic and Social Benefits - DRC royalties & $$ uplift to local communities as well as stuff like social obligations e.g. community development programs, environmental protections.
*Ownership and Equity Adjustments - this one reflects the ownership structure of Dathcom, with AVZ holding 75% and Cominière 25%. formalizing of Cominière’s agreement to cede 10% of its stake to the DRC government upon license issuance, reducing its share to 15%.
The last one is a bit of a hand break I’d say as it does open up Cominieres decision of flogging the north to Z based on percentages that weren’t theirs to deal with.
What’s the chances that DRC government signitures are going to land in all the agreed term boxes as agreed between AVZ and CATL… highly unlikely I’d say
My thoughts are however that given the number of things wrong with how we got to the current situation ie Com / Zijin with mining licence for 152275 and Com as permit holders of the remainder ( south ) of 13359 it would be almost impossible for DRC Govt to fix this mess and issue the mining licence to Dathcom without implicating multiple ministers, senior govt admin and the judiciary etc with serious fraud and bribery. Also they would have Zijin hot on their tail ...a case of out of the frying pan and into the fire
Much cleaner for them to just issue the mining licence to Kobold for 13359 ( currently in Comminieres name ) via an executive order from Felix. I assume the agreement between Kobold and DRC covers all this including the fact Kobold will compensate us for cancelling all ICC and ICSID cases against DRC.
This brings us back to the current situation with AVZ negotiating with Kobold for "Fair" compensation.
For me it is hard to see how this can progress any other way
Good post this morning Cobber
My advice re the shit stain is just put it on ignore
I did that both here and on the crapper a few months ago and now it no longer exists
Cobberoonski
Member
Get where you’re coming from Strongman, but I’ve never put anyone on ignore - I’ve got a pretty solid tolerance for dickheads & am generally happy enough to scroll through. Trolls peddling half-truths/lies & putting up woeful analyses is another thing.
When this place gets back to somewhere near normal TSE transmission resuming, I’ll happily let his pigeon English bullshit through to the keeper. Till then, & until the news vacuum ends…
According to Africa Security Analysis, a Swedish company that provides risk analysis and security updates on Africa, the situation in eastern DRC is highly volatile and unpredictable. Recent events indicate a growing crisis that threatens the stability of the Great Lakes region. Lacking effective containment of all the armed players and alliances and constructive political dialogue by all parties, the area might be facing a prolonged period of violence and eventual fragmentation.
Achieving lasting peace and stability in the DRC and the Great Lakes region will require more than highly publicized signing ceremonies. It requires a sustained commitment from all parties, including international mediators, to dedicate time and resources to confidence-building measures, enforcement mechanisms, and community engagement that foster local buy-in and address the conflict’s root causes.
Until all parties come to this realization and begin to walk the talk, peace will remain out of reach.
The increase in violence in eastern DRC has led to the United States levying sanctions against entities accused of stoking violence and trafficking critical minerals in the eastern DRC. The ongoing violence in the region significantly impacts the minerals deal between the United States and the DRC, which will require sustained US engagement, effective leadership on the part of the DRC government, and independent monitoring and community consultation if it is to be implemented successfully. None of this is possible, however, until peace and stability are restored to the DRC’s eastern region, something that is uncertain at present. In addition, there is the risk that focusing on securing strategic minerals could attract additional actors and interests to the region, further complicating negotiations.
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