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Dave Evans

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WOW, what happened to all the posts that got us to page 3000 and now they’ve disappeared talking us back a page 🤷🏻‍♂️

Quick @Winenut get you’re history of AVZ here quick smart, you deserve this auspicious occasion. Here, I’ll start it off for you 👇

Mar 21, 2025
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"The tale of AVZ"...... (Part 1)

Once upon a time AVZ aquired a majority share interest in Dathcom

WOW!!!......let's go mining!

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Some even prepared new clothes and adornments


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Then a green witch appeared

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and things started to go wrong

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another bad actor entered the scene....or more accurately never left it

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and really messed things up...

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to be continued......
 
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Dave Evans

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Mar 21, 2025
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"The tale of AVZ"...... (Part 2)

later a bad actor tried to renege on their deal

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but AVZ said "no the deal is done you should have used a better calculator"........

the bad actor was not happy

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Then more shitfuckery emerged....

Another bad actor tried to sell a 15% interest in Dathcom for a pittance and a bunch of tasty snacks

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AVZ shareholders were outraged.....

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there were scenes and confrontations at the AGM in 2022

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AVZ shareholders wanted answers......but they didn't really get much

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a man called Felix promised to help the DRC and Manono

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people thought the good guys had arrived

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Many thought the mining licence was "imminent"

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to be continued......
 
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PhatCatz

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5 bucks minimum.
 
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JNRB

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I know nothing is done until the ink is dry but people seem to be letting their minds run away a bit with the current status of the deal with Kobold.

1. The statement from AVZ & Kobold doesn't talk about 'progressing' or 'advancing' discussions on a deal. The wording is "working with all possible speed to conclude the commercial agreement".

2. Nigel would not have signed such a joint statement unless there was already a basic value framework in place that was acceptable.

This is not speculation or wishful thinking anymore, nor is it something we should be unnecessarily doubting. Yes the company has clarified that the agreement so far is still 'non-binding' but they also signed the statement saying they're working with speed to conclude it.

So our default position now is the deal with Kobold is happening, until something changes that disrupts that. Sure there are still hurdles, but I for one don't think Kobold haggling over the price is going to be one of them. They are buying a global geopolitically important resource that is so big it will be able to influence market pricing for its resource - not buying a second-hand toaster at a flea market.

They know what they're getting and they know what the value is*,
and so do we.


(*$12 😉)
 
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Doc

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Why have so many posts disappeared??
 
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Strongman

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Seems we got a little tit for tat war goin on here.
 
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Samus

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Something weird is going on, it's probably Yaseen and it's many aliases causing havoc again.
 
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Mute22

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DR Congo eyes US minerals deal tied to peace in rebel-hit east by end of June
William Wallis and Camilla Hodgson in London

Published AN HOUR AGO

Officials from the Democratic Republic of Congo are optimistic they can reach a deal with Washington next month to secure US investment in critical minerals alongside support to end a Rwandan-backed rebellion in the country’s east.

The scope of Kinshasa’s negotiations with Washington is hugely ambitious, and combines giving US companies access to lithium, cobalt and coltan deposits in return for investment in infrastructure and mines, with efforts to draw a line under 30 years of conflict in regions bordering Rwanda.

Two people close to the negotiations said an investment deal with the US and separate peace deal with Rwanda were possible “by the end of June”. But potential stumbling blocks remain substantial.

The US hopes to regain a foothold in a mining sector that has been dominated by China since Beijing reached its own multibillion dollar mines-for-infrastructure deal with Kinshasa in 2008.

The DR Congo’s mining minister Kizito Pakabomba told the Financial Times that an agreement with the US would help “diversify our partnerships”, reducing the country’s dependence on China for the exploitation of its vast mineral riches.

A deal could also lay the foundations for co-operation between the DR Congo and its neighbours including Rwanda, in the export and processing of metals.

But in a sign of tensions underlying the talks, DR Congo officials said there could be no question of sanctioning of Rwandan involvement in Congo’s minerals trade until M23 rebels retreated from a swath of territory they have occupied since January, and the Rwandan troops allegedly supporting them withdraw across the border.

Rwanda has long been accused of using security concerns across its border as a smokescreen for the plunder of Congolese resources including coltan used in mobile phones, and gold. Rwandan president Paul Kagame’s government denies supporting the M23 rebels, while claiming that his army is defending itself against hostile forces.

People close to the talks said that Kigali saw the negotiations as an opportunity to legitimise access to Congolese resources and attract US investment to expand its own existing metals processing. But before considering any such prospect, Kinshasa wants first to regain control of territory, including the cities of Goma and Bukavu, that it has lost.

“It would be very difficult for us to accept that particularly because there are still Rwandan troops in the [DR Congo] and there are still M23 troops committing abuses,” said a senior Congolese official who asked not to be named.

Yolande Makolo, Kagame’s spokesperson, said “Rwanda’s defensive measures along” the border, “are necessary as long as threats and the cause of insecurity in the DRC persists”. More important than the date of any peace agreement, she said, was for it to “deal with the root causes and be long-lasting”.

But Makolo added that Rwanda was “optimistic” about the approach the administration of US President Donald Trump was taking.

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“Economic collaboration between the countries of the region that leverages our respective strengths, and benefits all our people is what we ourselves have always envisioned for this part of the continent. This is why we are committed to this process,” she said.

A person close to the talks said Massad Boulos, Trump’s Africa envoy and father-in-law to his daughter Tiffany, had called for another round of negotiations in Washington next week to iron out some of the differences.

Boulos, who met Congolese President Félix Tshisekedi in Kinshasa and Kagame in Kigali in April, said last week he had provided both parties with the first draft of a peace agreement.

A spokesperson for the US State Department said: “Both participants have committed to work to find peaceful resolutions to the issues driving the conflict in eastern DRC, and to introduce greater transparency to natural resource supply chains. Respect for each country’s territorial integrity is at the centre of the process.”
 
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Mute22

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If you have been wondering why Felix NEEDS US weapons & military intelligence support:

 
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FWIW. IMO.

The ICSID previously told both parties the matter would proceed on 1 June. Enough, is enough

No adjournment (suspension) would have been granted, let alone requested, if a deal wasn't very, very close to being agreed upon. The fact AVZ themselves asked for/agreed to the delay speaks volumes.

Note the very short time frame of the adjournment. It's close. Very close.

Awaiting Lawyers' proof reading, minor changes to contracts, gives and takes, final wording........

Deal's done.
 
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Dave Evans

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It's the fucking little cunt j19, Yaseen and his multiple aliases reporting our posts. He's sitting there wanking over his multiple devices and getting his jollies.

It’s always the ones who shout the loudest and play the victim mate
 
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Samus

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@Samus have you noticed TSE’s new method of moderating posts. They don’t warn you and they leave the post where you can see it through your own profile but they remove it from the main thread so no one else can see it

Might be time to start going through and deleting a few threads I posted. Anyway mate to answer your question from earlier today about something funny going on, that’s what it is
Best to report to admin on that absolute grubby little fuckwit.
And yes I am experiencing that same thing.
 
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Xerof

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I got a Dreddbot today too. Fucked if I know who I abused about their appearance but whatever post it was must have been weeks ago
 
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Flexi

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If a deal has been done, than i would be expecting AVZ board would be utilising this waiting time to work on how the funds will be disbursed to AVZ shareholders expeditiously. Every thing should be sorted now and ready to go after the announcement.
 
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Spikerama

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Hang on I was just about to reply to that! FFS.
 
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Jongo

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If a deal is done >= $2 per share, Nigel needs to invite us all to a party.
 
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Congo eyes US minerals deal by end of June, FT reports

May 25 (Reuters) - Officials from the Democratic Republic of Congo are optimistic they can reach a deal with Washington next month to secure U.S investment in critical minerals alongside support to end a Rwandan-backed rebellion in the country’s east, the Financial Times reported on Sunday.

Congolese minerals such as tungsten, tantalum and tin, which Kinshasa has long accused neighbouring Rwanda of illegally exploiting, could be exported legitimately to Rwanda for processing under the terms of a peace deal being negotiated by the U.S., Reuters reported last week.

An investment deal with the U.S. and separate peace deal with Rwanda were possible "by the end of June", the newspaper said, citing two people close to the negotiations. But potential stumbling blocks remain substantial, the FT said.

Congo's Mines Minister Kizito Pakabomba said an agreement with the U.S. would help "diversify our partnerships", reducing the country’s dependence on China for the exploitation of its vast mineral riches, the FT reported.

Kinshasa views the plundering of its mineral wealth as a key driver of the conflict between its forces and Rwanda-backed M23 rebels in eastern Congo that has intensified since January, accusing Kigali of smuggling tens of millions of dollars worth of minerals over the border each month to be sold from Rwanda.

Washington is pushing for a peace agreement between the two sides to be signed this summer, accompanied by minerals deals aimed at bringing billions of dollars of Western investment to the region, Massad Boulos, U.S. President Donald Trump's senior adviser for Africa, said earlier this month.


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