AVZ Discussion 2022
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First Kobold, and now RIO...all this public action since the ICC threw Célestin Kibeya (aka Anus) and Cominiere under the bus. The ICSID hearing scheduled for early June 2025, may be the thing that drives King Felix-the-corrupt to finally sit down and do a deal with AVZ.
All this makes me curious about how many other miners may be interested in developing the tenement, but are yet to show their hands.
For starters, since both output and grades are on the decline at Greenbushes, you would think that at a minimum the JV partners Tianqi/IGO and Albermale would have more than a passing interest. There are many other heavyweights of international mining such as SQM, Glencore or even RIO's perennial competitor BHP that may be prepared to wear the sovereign risk.
Regardless of the commodity being mined, these flagship miners demand grade and longevity, and Manono has it in spades.
The clock is ticking for the DRC to come to an arrangement with AVZ Minerals that leads to a mining licence.
Cheers
F
All this makes me curious about how many other miners may be interested in developing the tenement, but are yet to show their hands.
For starters, since both output and grades are on the decline at Greenbushes, you would think that at a minimum the JV partners Tianqi/IGO and Albermale would have more than a passing interest. There are many other heavyweights of international mining such as SQM, Glencore or even RIO's perennial competitor BHP that may be prepared to wear the sovereign risk.
Regardless of the commodity being mined, these flagship miners demand grade and longevity, and Manono has it in spades.
The clock is ticking for the DRC to come to an arrangement with AVZ Minerals that leads to a mining licence.
Cheers
F
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They won’t turn up. A plane, car, alarm, coffee machine, dildo or something will malfunction leading them to ask for an alternate date set months in the future. They experts at kicking the can down the road
. I'll ski or surf . Makes no difference to me .
Mute22
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Gotta love how AFR deliberately avoided tagging AVZ or mentioning it by name in the headline, just so the article wouldn’t show up in the AVZ Minerals feed when searching ‘AVZ AFR'. The name is also not mentioned above the fold, so it is unlikely when you search AVZ it will be indexed for things like Google News.
Make no mistake, this wasn’t an oversight. Half of readers only skim headlines, meaning many wouldn’t even realise the piece was about AVZ. Again, this was deliberate, only negative story's can mention AVZ by name. It wasn't just Tommy who is a twat at the AFR.
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Make no mistake, this wasn’t an oversight. Half of readers only skim headlines, meaning many wouldn’t even realise the piece was about AVZ. Again, this was deliberate, only negative story's can mention AVZ by name. It wasn't just Tommy who is a twat at the AFR.
Rio Tinto has talks with Congo over prize lithium deposit
Securing investment from a Western firm of Rio’s size would be a significant boost for the central African nation’s leaders.
AVZ News, Analysis, Announcements & Results | AVZ Minerals | AFR
The latest AVZ Minerals [AVZ] news, articles, data and analysis from The Australian Financial Review
Frank
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* Too soon to start counting
1 Billion - 2 Billion - 3 Billion - 4 Billion - 5 Billion etc etc ect
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The possible JV with Kobold with Rio as the miner is checkmate for approval by DRC to proceed and award ML to AVZ.
CATH still gets offtake so China does not miss out .
Comminere are the ones to miss out as Kobold has stated they do not want them involved .
What a miracle indeed.if USA gets minerals for security signed off.
IMO Felix would not want his dirty laundry exposed and improves the odds for an AVZ ML to be awarded before going to court.
Spikerama
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I was going to do another Celestine one in my Super Villain series with the headline Big Lips, Sink Ships. But it goes against my rules of engagement.
Another left fielder in the mix now....Rio Tinto...brilliant.
Rio Tinto paid 9.95 Billion AUS $ recently for Arcadium lithium with an annual output of 200 kpta Lithium...
And now there are on the negotiating table with AVZ with a planed output of 700 kpta Lithium in stage 1....thats 3.5 x more than Arcadia. Grades and depth and quality of AVZ's deposit beats Arcadia by far....
Come on RIO, keep that deposit in Australian hands and get you check book out...
Good luck everybody....let's start the bidding war
Rio Tinto paid 9.95 Billion AUS $ recently for Arcadium lithium with an annual output of 200 kpta Lithium...
And now there are on the negotiating table with AVZ with a planed output of 700 kpta Lithium in stage 1....thats 3.5 x more than Arcadia. Grades and depth and quality of AVZ's deposit beats Arcadia by far....
Come on RIO, keep that deposit in Australian hands and get you check book out...
Good luck everybody....let's start the bidding war
And here are the Arabs.....another left fielder?
actualite.cd
Kasaï Central : les investissements au menu de la rencontre à Dubaï entre un proche de la famille royale émiratie et la délégation des députés et celle du gouvernement provincial
Les trois députés provinciaux du Kasaï Central, Papy Noël Kanku, Pierre Sosthène Kambidi et Voltaire Tshibwabwa en séjour à Dubaï aux Emirats arabes Unis et qui ont été rejoints par deux membres du gouvernement
Hodlandwin69
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Kasai is a long way from manonoAnd here are the Arabs.....another left fielder?
View attachment 80669 View attachment 80670Kasaï Central : les investissements au menu de la rencontre à Dubaï entre un proche de la famille royale émiratie et la délégation des députés et celle du gouvernement provincial
Les trois députés provinciaux du Kasaï Central, Papy Noël Kanku, Pierre Sosthène Kambidi et Voltaire Tshibwabwa en séjour à Dubaï aux Emirats arabes Unis et qui ont été rejoints par deux membres du gouvernement
But it shows that the Arabs are keen to invest in the DRC...and they got the most dosh of all of them
Winenut
GO AVZ!!!!
So is Melbourne and Berkeley
Damn, after the drama with Kobold its hard to get excited again.
I think I'll reserve my excitement for when the news articles specifically indicate that someone is negotiating or in discussions with AVZ as opposed to the DRC.
Otherwise I'll just assume its another player trying to fuck us over
I think I'll reserve my excitement for when the news articles specifically indicate that someone is negotiating or in discussions with AVZ as opposed to the DRC.
Otherwise I'll just assume its another player trying to fuck us over
Well if the try to f$ck us over we're off to the ICSID!
Signatories and Contracting States
As of today, 158 countries have signed the ICSID Convention, and 156 of them have ratified it.
Notable Signatories and Contracting States
Some of the key member states include:
Americas: United States, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, Chile
Europe: United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Netherlands
Africa: Nigeria, South Africa, Egypt, Ghana, Kenya
Asia: China, Japan, India, South Korea, Indonesia
Middle East: Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Israel, Turkey
Signatories and Contracting States
As of today, 158 countries have signed the ICSID Convention, and 156 of them have ratified it.
Notable Signatories and Contracting States
Some of the key member states include:
Americas: United States, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, Chile
Europe: United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Netherlands
Africa: Nigeria, South Africa, Egypt, Ghana, Kenya
Asia: China, Japan, India, South Korea, Indonesia
Middle East: Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Israel, Turkey
You guys really need to get your calcs right, 200ktpa of LCE is far different from 700ktpa of sc6
Yep so would be pointless for RIO or Kobold to be nutting out a deal if AVZ were not in a strong position . Media reports AVZ issues need to be resolved . Means AVZ are holding the winning ICDIS cards . Kibeya can eat sh1t and die.
I’ve had a very similar experience. Look after yourselves it’s not easy at times mate.
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