AVZ Discussion 2022

Goldenboy

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It makes me feel dirty that Trump could be our saviour.....
It is the one time in history that you can say “He is such an idiot “ …. and 90% of the population know who you are talking about.
 
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cruiser51

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If Putin is successful in isolating the USA, one wonders who the hell trump's advisors are.

They might be great dancing on tables in Mar-a-Lago, but their dancing skills don't impress the rest of the world.

By the time the USA isolates itself completely, I really don't think the rest of the world will have to worry about trump's tariffs.

Just don't deal with the fukkers, until they realise the world is bigger than the USA.

I believe the first action Australia should take asap is: tell Trump to stick his overpriced submarines and airplanes up his clacker.
It is pretty obvious the current USA, as a partner in anything, can not be trusted.
 
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Rediah

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It makes me feel dirty that Trump could be our saviour.....
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pow4ade

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If Putin is successful in isolating the USA, one wonders who the hell trump's advisors are.

They might be great dancing on tables in Mar-a-Lago, but their dancing skills don't impress the rest of the world.

By the time the USA isolates itself completely, I really don't think the rest of the world will have to worry about trump's tariffs.

Just don't deal with the fukkers, until they realise the world is bigger than the USA.

I believe the first action Australia should take asap is: tell Trump to stick his overpriced submarines and airplanes up his clacker.
It is pretty obvious the current USA, as a partner in anything, can not be trusted.
The world has rapidly changed with the emergence of China and Trump is pivoting to adapt. He has no other choice.

Pax Americana and the uni-polarity world order is being supplanted by a multi-polarity order of first China, then US, and Russia a weaker third.

Hence Trump's desire to woo Russia in order to rival and contain China. Because China doesn't do friends or partners but rather has vassal states. Neither the West nor Russia will accept that.

So a momentous time in world history right now with power blocks realigning. Especially so if Trump can be persuaded to do a deal with DRC. May be the saviour of Felix, and AVZ too.
 
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DMasonic

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The thing with Trump is that if he does intervene in the DRC/Manolo (and I doubt he will), it’ll be so that the USA controls the resource.
He’s not motivated by doing the right thing, he does what he perceives benefits himself.
The only sort of deal AVZ would end up with is discontinue legal action, hand over the resource to a USA company and get paid bottom dollar. IMO.
Trump is a bully and he’ll happily screw us while we are in trouble.
 
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wombat74

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The thing with Trump is that if he does intervene in the DRC/Manolo (and I doubt he will), it’ll be so that the USA controls the resource.
He’s not motivated by doing the right thing, he does what he perceives benefits himself.
The only sort of deal AVZ would end up with is discontinue legal action, hand over the resource to a USA company and get paid bottom dollar. IMO.
Trump is a bully and he’ll happily screw us while we are in trouble.
From memory AVZ are collaborating with Cath /Chinese .
 
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Xerof

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From memory AVZ are collaborating with Cath /Chinese .
You have a very good memory, that was my understanding too:rolleyes:

An aside, if anyone can authoritatively confirm the WASC case with fat cnts has been dropped, could they either confirm on this thread, or DM me please. My OCD likes to tie up loose ends
 
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Uglybob

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The thing with Trump is that if he does intervene in the DRC/Manolo (and I doubt he will), it’ll be so that the USA controls the resource.
He’s not motivated by doing the right thing, he does what he perceives benefits himself.
The only sort of deal AVZ would end up with is discontinue legal action, hand over the resource to a USA company and get paid bottom dollar. IMO.
Trump is a bully and he’ll happily screw us while we are in trouble.
Unfortunately I agree with this. According to the orange turnip, a good deal means there's a winner and a loser. I can't see any deal in which Trump is directly involved being a win for AVZ unless he inadvertently wipes out one of out adversaries in an unrelated manner.
 
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M.Bison

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Unfortunately I agree with this. According to the orange turnip, a good deal means there's a winner and a loser. I can't see any deal in which Trump is directly involved being a win for AVZ unless he inadvertently wipes out one of out adversaries in an unrelated manner.
I'd say the loser would be China. But we could definitely be the loser alongside them.
 
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Rediah

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Brisbane’s in for a rough one with Cyclone Alfred closing in—stay safe, everyone in the area. 🙏


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Flight996

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The thing with Trump is that if he does intervene in the DRC/Manolo (and I doubt he will), it’ll be so that the USA controls the resource.
He’s not motivated by doing the right thing, he does what he perceives benefits himself.
The only sort of deal AVZ would end up with is discontinue legal action, hand over the resource to a USA company and get paid bottom dollar. IMO.
Trump is a bully and he’ll happily screw us while we are in trouble.

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I wonder if the orange buffoon can exploit this situation to get western access to the DRC's new age minerals, and in the process freeze out China and support AVZ in its fight for survival.

Trump may be a crass narcissist with few redeeming qualities, but he's still way ahead of King Felix-the-corrupt in terms of negotiating skills and resources he can bring to the table. I'm also sure his Nazi mate will be right in his ear about the value of Manono.

Cheers
F

PS. Thinking about all our QLD members.
 
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cruiser51

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I wonder if the orange buffoon can exploit this situation to get western access to the DRC's new age minerals, and in the process freeze out China and support AVZ in its fight for survival.

Trump may be a crass narcissist with few redeeming qualities, but he's still way ahead of King Felix-the-corrupt in terms of negotiating skills and resources he can bring to the table. I'm also sure his Nazi mate will be right in his ear about the value of Manono.

Cheers
F

PS. Thinking about all our QLD members.
It is pretty obvious fat Felix’s training stopped at delivering pizzas in Brussels
 
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It is pretty obvious fat Felix’s training stopped at delivering pizzas in Brussels

I don't think many of the pizzas he was supposed to deliver ever reached their destination.
 
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Frank

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Congo Courts Trump for Strategic Minerals Tie-Up as War Looms

The Democratic Republic of Congo has offered the US exclusive access to critical minerals and infrastructure projects in exchange for security assistance as it battles a rebellion backed by neighboring Rwanda.

In a letter to US Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Congo asked for an urgent meeting between Presidents Felix Tshisekedi and Donald Trump to discuss a pact that would give American companies access to some of the most coveted minerals for the energy transition.

“As the world’s largest supplier of cobalt and a major producer of lithium, tantalum and uranium, the DRC’s resources are integral to US industrial competitiveness and national security,” an Africa-US business group lobbying on Congo’s behalf said in the letter.

A partnership “presents a unique opportunity for the United States to establish a reliable and exclusive supply chain.”

The invitation to exploit Congo’s vast resources shows Tshisekedi has become increasingly desperate in his fight against Rwanda, which supports a rebel group that’s threatened to overthrow his government and seized a wide swath of the country’s mineral-rich east.


The Trump administration is “open to discussing partnerships in this sector,” the US State Department said in an email.

“Partnerships with US companies will strengthen both US and DRC economies.”

But any deal is likely a long way off.

Trump’s predecessor, Joe Biden, struggled to interest US firms in Congo’s minerals amid concerns about corruption, environmental degradation and labor issues.

The US has also been reluctant to assist Congo’s military, which has been accused of human-rights abuses.

Tricky Negotiations

“For the DRC, this would likely involve lengthy, tricky renegotiations of mining contracts, while it is difficult to see the Trump administration being able to mobilize US investors,” said Joshua Walker, program director for the Congo Research Group at New York University’s Center on International Cooperation.


“And it is still unclear whether the new administration will commit significant resources to ending Rwandan aggression in the DRC.”

The letter was one of several sent to senior US officials last month, offering a Congolese deal similar to the Trump administration’s proposed minerals-for-security arrangements with Ukraine, which fell apart last week.

Congo’s mining industry, which is also the world’s second-biggest source of copper, is dominated by Chinese companies.

A tie-up with the US would allow Tshisekedi to “shift away from China’s dominant influence and strengthen economic ties with the West,” the lobby group said.

The letter offers US companies operational control and “exclusive extraction and export rights.”

It also proposes involvement in a planned deep-water port on Congo’s Atlantic coast and the establishment of a joint strategic mineral stockpile.


In exchange, the US would provide training and equipment for Congo’s armed forces as well as direct security assistance.

It would have access to military bases “to protect strategic resources.”

The letter, disclosed on the Foreign Agents Registration Act website, was sent by lobbyist Aaron Poynton of the Africa-USA Business Council on behalf of Pierre Kanda Kalambayi, chair of the Congolese Senate’s Committee on Defense, Security and Border Protection.

Similar letters were also addressed to the heads of the House and Senate Foreign Relations Committees, Republican Senator Ted Cruz, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick and Republican Representative Rob Wittman, who chairs the House Critical Minerals Policy Working Group.

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