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Samus

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FFS …Had it up too here with the blah blah blah
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speech after speech after speech. Meetings and meetings that have been going on for years. The government does not seem to succeed in organizing the Manono mining permit. What good is having all these resources if they are not used.

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speech after speech after speech. Meetings and meetings that have been going on for years. The government does not seem to succeed in organizing the Manono mining permit. What good is having all these resources if they are not used.

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It's not worth shit until they dig it up. 😞
 
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Samus

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Can't we just write off the duffel bags as corporate expenses and be done with it?
Here ya go Felix, here you go Jean.
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A few paper bags for the others.
Here you go mom and adèle.
One for all the judges and the guys at Cominière.
Can probably fit half a Mil in the larger brown bags.
Hell sign me up for the cap raise if it gets things moving.
Every one of them is probably sitting there thinking - we're ready to go for 12 months so where the hell are my snacks??
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WHY DO DRC CITIZENS REPORT SUCH HIGH LEVELS OF CORRUPTION?​

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Transparency Int'l11 July 2019

Picture a sinking ship in which a large group of people are fighting for a few, increasingly torn life jackets. Something similar is happening in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) at every point in a chain of bribe-taking that stretches from the lowest public officials to the top of the government. The DRC’s people are being harmed by a semi-official culture, known as “débrouillez-vous” (fend for yourself).

What the Congolese think about corruption & bribery​

In our survey of 47,000 citizens in 35 African countries, the Global Corruption Barometer, we asked DRC citizens about their views on and experiences of corruption. Eighty-five per cent said that corruption is increasing, 80 per cent said that the government is doing a bad job at tackling it, and 80 per cent said they need to pay bribes for public services, like the police, water supply and identification documents.
It comes as little surprise that the Congolese see institutions like the police, the judiciary and the government as full of corruption, nor sadly, that less than a third think that ordinary people can make a difference in the fight against corruption.
These findings are far worse than in most other African countries: slightly over half of all Africans think that corruption is getting worse, while 28 per cent of Africans have to pay bribes for public services.
Why is corruption so prevalent in the DRC, why is bribery so commonplace and why do two thirds of citizens feel powerless?
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The state of corruption in the DRC​

A range of factors contribute to the DRC’s high corruption levels. Weak democracy allows corrupt politicians to maintain power, while ineffective institutions give opportunities for corruption rather than preventing it. People who expose or oppose corrupt systems are suppressed. The country also has low levels of stateness, a key tool that undemocratic regimes can use against corruption: the government doesn’t control its own army, competes for local power with many militias and has little control of movement through its eastern borders.
The DRC’s leaders tend to drive corruption rather than try to clean it up. This is done through patronage networks where those with power give others jobs and contracts in exchange for bribes. This makes the powerful very rich — former President Joseph Kabila owns more than 80 companies and 71,000 hectares of farmland — and means that poorly paid low level officials have to demand bribes to survive.
This act of preying on the people with less power is made more aggressive by job insecurity; leaders tend to strategically and regularly fire public officials to stop them from getting too much power. This encourages many officials to grab as much money as they can — through bribes and also embezzlement — as quickly as possible.
They are able to do so undetected and with impunity because the DRC’s institutions are frequently not transparent — the state-owned oil company Cohyrdo is one of the world’s least transparent state-owned companies — and have low capacity to effectively monitor and manage their activities. This has led to hundreds of millions of dollars in infrastructure loans from the Chinese government going missing, for example.
The chances of officials being sanctioned for corruption are further reduced by the DRC’s anti-corruption framework being very poorly implemented. Laws criminalising public sector corruption and requiring officials to report any bribery are rarely acted on, and any well-connected official who is prosecuted for corruption can expect an acquittal, as the judiciary is controlled by politicians and bribes.

Citizens footing the bill​

Whether it’s through slowed development or bribe-taking, it is ordinary citizens who suffer.
The DRC’s 10 million market sellers are one of many demographics who get asked for bribes on a regular basis. A market seller’s drive to pick up goods might involve a traffic police officer demanding a bribe, an army run roadblock taking some of those goods and then a local government official requiring an unofficial tax to let the market seller trade.
Local and provincial governments are known to demand hundreds of types of taxes, frequently for services that aren’t delivered. Many officials also pocket — and then bribe superiors with — large proportions of the taxes that they collect. Additionally, their need to deliver sufficient tax revenues to government accounts, whilst taking tax money for themselves, means that officials tax impoverished Congolese citizens at very high rates, taking 40 to 50 per cent of their income.
There are, unfortunately, several reasons why two thirds of citizens don’t feel like they can make a difference against corruption: their votes are apparently not being counted in elections; the reported landslide winner of the 2018 general elections, Martin Fayulu, did not become president. Instead Felix Tshisekedi became president after an election involving many irregularities. Citizens are discouraged by protesters and opposition politicians being violently suppressed, and worry that the culture of fending for yourself is too deeply ingrained in their society.

What’s next for the DRC?​

The Congolese can change their country and Felix Tshisekedi’s government has a chance to bring integrity to the DRC. It should start by strengthening democracy with a free press and judiciary, and full political rights. Tshisekedi must also adequately fund independent anti-corruption agencies, and fully implement the DRC’s anti-corruption framework. This will help strengthen its institutions while ensuring that state funds aren’t embezzled, procurement is ethical and corrupt acts are punished.

GCB​

 
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Frank

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Can't we just write off the duffel bags as corporate expenses and be done with it?
Here ya go Felix, here you go Jean.
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A few paper bags for the others.
Here you go mom and adèle.
One for all the judges and the guys at Cominière.
Can probably fit half a Mil in the larger brown bags.
Hell sign me up for the cap raise if it gets things moving.
Every one of them is probably sitting there thinking - we're ready to go for 12 months so where the hell are my snacks??
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WHY DO DRC CITIZENS REPORT SUCH HIGH LEVELS OF CORRUPTION?​

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Transparency Int'l11 July 2019

Picture a sinking ship in which a large group of people are fighting for a few, increasingly torn life jackets. Something similar is happening in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) at every point in a chain of bribe-taking that stretches from the lowest public officials to the top of the government. The DRC’s people are being harmed by a semi-official culture, known as “débrouillez-vous” (fend for yourself).

What the Congolese think about corruption & bribery​

In our survey of 47,000 citizens in 35 African countries, the Global Corruption Barometer, we asked DRC citizens about their views on and experiences of corruption. Eighty-five per cent said that corruption is increasing, 80 per cent said that the government is doing a bad job at tackling it, and 80 per cent said they need to pay bribes for public services, like the police, water supply and identification documents.
It comes as little surprise that the Congolese see institutions like the police, the judiciary and the government as full of corruption, nor sadly, that less than a third think that ordinary people can make a difference in the fight against corruption.
These findings are far worse than in most other African countries: slightly over half of all Africans think that corruption is getting worse, while 28 per cent of Africans have to pay bribes for public services.
Why is corruption so prevalent in the DRC, why is bribery so commonplace and why do two thirds of citizens feel powerless?
10WyxPr1CSlTd9yENHdlXqQ.jpeg

The state of corruption in the DRC​

A range of factors contribute to the DRC’s high corruption levels. Weak democracy allows corrupt politicians to maintain power, while ineffective institutions give opportunities for corruption rather than preventing it. People who expose or oppose corrupt systems are suppressed. The country also has low levels of stateness, a key tool that undemocratic regimes can use against corruption: the government doesn’t control its own army, competes for local power with many militias and has little control of movement through its eastern borders.
The DRC’s leaders tend to drive corruption rather than try to clean it up. This is done through patronage networks where those with power give others jobs and contracts in exchange for bribes. This makes the powerful very rich — former President Joseph Kabila owns more than 80 companies and 71,000 hectares of farmland — and means that poorly paid low level officials have to demand bribes to survive.
This act of preying on the people with less power is made more aggressive by job insecurity; leaders tend to strategically and regularly fire public officials to stop them from getting too much power. This encourages many officials to grab as much money as they can — through bribes and also embezzlement — as quickly as possible.
They are able to do so undetected and with impunity because the DRC’s institutions are frequently not transparent — the state-owned oil company Cohyrdo is one of the world’s least transparent state-owned companies — and have low capacity to effectively monitor and manage their activities. This has led to hundreds of millions of dollars in infrastructure loans from the Chinese government going missing, for example.
The chances of officials being sanctioned for corruption are further reduced by the DRC’s anti-corruption framework being very poorly implemented. Laws criminalising public sector corruption and requiring officials to report any bribery are rarely acted on, and any well-connected official who is prosecuted for corruption can expect an acquittal, as the judiciary is controlled by politicians and bribes.

Citizens footing the bill​

Whether it’s through slowed development or bribe-taking, it is ordinary citizens who suffer.
The DRC’s 10 million market sellers are one of many demographics who get asked for bribes on a regular basis. A market seller’s drive to pick up goods might involve a traffic police officer demanding a bribe, an army run roadblock taking some of those goods and then a local government official requiring an unofficial tax to let the market seller trade.
Local and provincial governments are known to demand hundreds of types of taxes, frequently for services that aren’t delivered. Many officials also pocket — and then bribe superiors with — large proportions of the taxes that they collect. Additionally, their need to deliver sufficient tax revenues to government accounts, whilst taking tax money for themselves, means that officials tax impoverished Congolese citizens at very high rates, taking 40 to 50 per cent of their income.
There are, unfortunately, several reasons why two thirds of citizens don’t feel like they can make a difference against corruption: their votes are apparently not being counted in elections; the reported landslide winner of the 2018 general elections, Martin Fayulu, did not become president. Instead Felix Tshisekedi became president after an election involving many irregularities. Citizens are discouraged by protesters and opposition politicians being violently suppressed, and worry that the culture of fending for yourself is too deeply ingrained in their society.

What’s next for the DRC?​

The Congolese can change their country and Felix Tshisekedi’s government has a chance to bring integrity to the DRC. It should start by strengthening democracy with a free press and judiciary, and full political rights. Tshisekedi must also adequately fund independent anti-corruption agencies, and fully implement the DRC’s anti-corruption framework. This will help strengthen its institutions while ensuring that state funds aren’t embezzled, procurement is ethical and corrupt acts are punished.

GCB​


*Speaking of the C word Sam, To add to that other post on the subject of JA the other day, I see where,

Jules Alingete awarded champion in the fight against anti-values in public management

The prestigious magazine Forbes Africa honored this Monday, September 20, in New York, the head of the General Inspectorate of Finance, Jules Alingete, with international recognition as a champion in the fight against anti-values in public management.

This consecration is added to that of the American administration which recognizes an awareness of the Congolese on the misdeeds of corruption as well as the positive evolution of the fight against corruption.

In his desire to materialize the vision of the Head of State, Félix Tshisekedi, Jules Alingete has multiplied strategies to block the way to the leakage of revenues as well as the embezzlement of public funds.

Today, this work as a financial policeman has once again been rewarded at the international level.

After his consecration in the USA by the famous FORBES Magazine, Jules Alingete is expected in the Belgian parliament on September 28, 2022 to talk about the progress made by Félix Tshisekedi in the fight against Corruption.

His speech will focus on the theme: “Progress and results achieved in the fight against corruption in the Democratic Republic of Congo”.


Appointed in July 2020 by the President of the Republic, the head of the IGF department, Jules Alingete, a 59-year-old economist, recorded results that several observers considered positive.

US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken made this known during his visit to the DRC.

The European Union has also resolved to collaborate directly with the IGF for the funds it sends as part of official development assistance.

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Congratulations to you Jule, you have just repaired the shameful face of the DRC, LONG LIVE THE CONGO, thank you to President Fatchi for his rigor because Jule also worked for 18 years of Kabila, there had been no recognition except corruption excessive


It was said during the inaugural speech of the current head of state that: only 4 billion dollars enter the state coffers. while 15 billion dollars are embezzled each year. the Head of State had said that he was going to reverse this trend. on the ground, I see the budget forecasts which do not even reach 15 billion dollars, the vidiye Tshimanga files.... But on the media we exhibit plays, decorations. Has the DRC become the Germany of Africa as announced? We like to work in silence...

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Enough of the Speeches, Awards and Patting each other on the Back :rolleyes:

It's Time to Lock up a few of these FWits and get this Mine on Track

Time to Hard Rock around the DRC Clock and don't look back !

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These are spot prices and may not last.

Also, battery grade is also a material fact in the markets. PLS is not saying what this 5.5 SC is rated at. Does it matter? Depends on end market.

I’ve seen statistics by China’s Ministry of Industry and information technology that regularly prefaces lithium with ‘battery grade’.

So this is another still hidden from general market view strategic factor for Manono.

So wonder the Americans are poking around they finally realise they can’t ignore lithium in DRC, which is obviously Manono…
 
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ChrisU

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Can't we just write off the duffel bags as corporate expenses and be done with it?
Here ya go Felix, here you go Jean.
View attachment 17155
A few paper bags for the others.
Here you go mom and adèle.
One for all the judges and the guys at Cominière.
Can probably fit half a Mil in the larger brown bags.
Hell sign me up for the cap raise if it gets things moving.
Every one of them is probably sitting there thinking - we're ready to go for 12 months so where the hell are my snacks??
View attachment 17156

WHY DO DRC CITIZENS REPORT SUCH HIGH LEVELS OF CORRUPTION?​

1_alWASx-XAobaV8mPEfztMA.jpeg


Transparency Int'l11 July 2019

Picture a sinking ship in which a large group of people are fighting for a few, increasingly torn life jackets. Something similar is happening in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) at every point in a chain of bribe-taking that stretches from the lowest public officials to the top of the government. The DRC’s people are being harmed by a semi-official culture, known as “débrouillez-vous” (fend for yourself).

What the Congolese think about corruption & bribery​

In our survey of 47,000 citizens in 35 African countries, the Global Corruption Barometer, we asked DRC citizens about their views on and experiences of corruption. Eighty-five per cent said that corruption is increasing, 80 per cent said that the government is doing a bad job at tackling it, and 80 per cent said they need to pay bribes for public services, like the police, water supply and identification documents.
It comes as little surprise that the Congolese see institutions like the police, the judiciary and the government as full of corruption, nor sadly, that less than a third think that ordinary people can make a difference in the fight against corruption.
These findings are far worse than in most other African countries: slightly over half of all Africans think that corruption is getting worse, while 28 per cent of Africans have to pay bribes for public services.
Why is corruption so prevalent in the DRC, why is bribery so commonplace and why do two thirds of citizens feel powerless?
10WyxPr1CSlTd9yENHdlXqQ.jpeg

The state of corruption in the DRC​

A range of factors contribute to the DRC’s high corruption levels. Weak democracy allows corrupt politicians to maintain power, while ineffective institutions give opportunities for corruption rather than preventing it. People who expose or oppose corrupt systems are suppressed. The country also has low levels of stateness, a key tool that undemocratic regimes can use against corruption: the government doesn’t control its own army, competes for local power with many militias and has little control of movement through its eastern borders.
The DRC’s leaders tend to drive corruption rather than try to clean it up. This is done through patronage networks where those with power give others jobs and contracts in exchange for bribes. This makes the powerful very rich — former President Joseph Kabila owns more than 80 companies and 71,000 hectares of farmland — and means that poorly paid low level officials have to demand bribes to survive.
This act of preying on the people with less power is made more aggressive by job insecurity; leaders tend to strategically and regularly fire public officials to stop them from getting too much power. This encourages many officials to grab as much money as they can — through bribes and also embezzlement — as quickly as possible.
They are able to do so undetected and with impunity because the DRC’s institutions are frequently not transparent — the state-owned oil company Cohyrdo is one of the world’s least transparent state-owned companies — and have low capacity to effectively monitor and manage their activities. This has led to hundreds of millions of dollars in infrastructure loans from the Chinese government going missing, for example.
The chances of officials being sanctioned for corruption are further reduced by the DRC’s anti-corruption framework being very poorly implemented. Laws criminalising public sector corruption and requiring officials to report any bribery are rarely acted on, and any well-connected official who is prosecuted for corruption can expect an acquittal, as the judiciary is controlled by politicians and bribes.

Citizens footing the bill​

Whether it’s through slowed development or bribe-taking, it is ordinary citizens who suffer.
The DRC’s 10 million market sellers are one of many demographics who get asked for bribes on a regular basis. A market seller’s drive to pick up goods might involve a traffic police officer demanding a bribe, an army run roadblock taking some of those goods and then a local government official requiring an unofficial tax to let the market seller trade.
Local and provincial governments are known to demand hundreds of types of taxes, frequently for services that aren’t delivered. Many officials also pocket — and then bribe superiors with — large proportions of the taxes that they collect. Additionally, their need to deliver sufficient tax revenues to government accounts, whilst taking tax money for themselves, means that officials tax impoverished Congolese citizens at very high rates, taking 40 to 50 per cent of their income.
There are, unfortunately, several reasons why two thirds of citizens don’t feel like they can make a difference against corruption: their votes are apparently not being counted in elections; the reported landslide winner of the 2018 general elections, Martin Fayulu, did not become president. Instead Felix Tshisekedi became president after an election involving many irregularities. Citizens are discouraged by protesters and opposition politicians being violently suppressed, and worry that the culture of fending for yourself is too deeply ingrained in their society.

What’s next for the DRC?​

The Congolese can change their country and Felix Tshisekedi’s government has a chance to bring integrity to the DRC. It should start by strengthening democracy with a free press and judiciary, and full political rights. Tshisekedi must also adequately fund independent anti-corruption agencies, and fully implement the DRC’s anti-corruption framework. This will help strengthen its institutions while ensuring that state funds aren’t embezzled, procurement is ethical and corrupt acts are punished.

GCB​

Australia has a CIA, or just a lady waiting with iced buns and tea on a Sunday afternoon in Harare?
 
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These are spot prices and may not last.

Also, battery grade is also a material fact in the markets. PLS is not saying what this 5.5 SC is rated at. Does it matter? Depends on end market.

I’ve seen statistics by China’s Ministry of Industry and information technology that regularly prefaces lithium with ‘battery grade’.

So this is another still hidden from general market view strategic factor for Manono.

So wonder the Americans are poking around they finally realise they can’t ignore lithium in DRC, which is obviously Manono…
"I’ve seen statistics by China’s Ministry of Industry and information technology that regularly prefaces lithium with ‘battery grade’."

Well it must be true then! 🤦‍♂️
 
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More than half of US car sales will be electric by 2030

Just over half of passenger cars sold in the US will be electric vehicles by 2030, according to a report from BloombergNEF, thanks in part to consumer incentives included in the $374 billion in new climate spending enacted by President Joe Biden.
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Those incentives, among them a point-of-sale tax credit of up to $7,500 for a new EV purchase, are likely to boost the pace of adoption, BloombergNEF analysts found in the report. Prior to passage of the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) in August, projections for EV sales by 2030 2030 came in at 43% of the US market.

With the climate-spending measure in place, that estimate was revised upwards to 52%.

The latest projection from BloombergNEF puts the US on track to hit a key target set by Biden last year, for half of all cars sold in the US to be battery-electric, plug-in hybrid or fuel cell-powered by the end of the decade.

In 2021, electric vehicles accounted for less than 5% of sales in the US, below the global rate of nearly 9% and well below the adoption rate in countries like China, where plug-ins currently account for roughly 24% of new car sales.

Norway became the first country to see electric overtake combustion engine vehicle sales last year.

Under the revised forecast from BloombergNEF, the US will surpass the global average in 2026 instead of 2028.

The three automakers with the most domestic battery production coming online in the near term—Tesla, GM, and Ford—are set to benefit most from the new law, according to the report.

At the insistence of West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin, the IRA restricts the full $7,500 credit to vehicles assembled in North America, with additional phased-in thresholds for manufacturing batteries in North America.

In the new report, analysts noted that these requirements “will take time to adjust to,” particularly as automakers contend with critical minerals and battery rules. But those challenges are expected to lessen over time, a shift that could also bring more electric cars into an affordable price range.

“In the next year or so, there shouldn’t be too much of a difference [in sales],” said BloombergNEF electric car analyst Corey Cantor. “Later in the decade, we expect not only the EV tax credit but the battery production tax credit to drive a steeper decline in EV costs.”

California regulator sees 2035 EV mandate as ‘sweet spot’

California’s choice of 2035 as the deadline to end gasoline-only new car sales was the “sweet spot” that will sharply cut emissions but was also realistic for the industry, the head of the state’s clean air regulator said on Tuesday.
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“We had to be cognizant of where the automakers are, where the supply chains are, where the production facilities are,” California Air Resources Board (CARB) chair Liane Randolph told Reuters in an interview during Climate Week, a summit that takes place alongside the UN General Assembly.

“I feel like we landed at the sweet spot.”

In August, CARB said it would require all new vehicles sold in California by 2035 to be electric or plug-in hybrid electrics (PHEVs) after Governor Gavin Newsom issued a 2020 executive order directing the move.

CARB said the rules will reduce smog-causing pollution from light-duty vehicles by 25% by 2037 and result in 9.5 million fewer conventional vehicles sold by 2035. Automakers in 2035 can sell no more than 20% of models as PHEVs.

Related Article: Investing abroad could be the solution to America’s clean energy future

California was not as aggressive as some environmental groups wanted, or Tesla, which urged ending new gas-powered vehicles by 2030.

“Of course an EV-only automaker is going to want as high a standard as possible because that is going to create a market for their credits,” Randolph said.

California needs a waiver from the US Environmental Protection Agency to adopt the 2035 rules, which will open the request for public comment.

“Obviously it’s their decision to make but I mean that’s why the waiver exists. So California can move forward and protect its residents,” she said.

President Joe Biden has called for 50% of all new vehicle sales by 2030 to be EVs or plug-in hybrids but not endorsed a phase-out date.

Some states that previously adopted California’s zero emission vehicle rules have not yet signed on for the tougher 2035 phase-out date.

A spokesman for Colorado’s environmental agency told Reuters, “Colorado is certainly not California and Colorado has our own plan.”

Randolph said “some states are ready right now” to adopt 2035 while others will “get more comfortable as the models continue to roll out.”

She said the regulator has other transportation emissions reductions in the works on medium- and heavy-duty trucks and for in-state locomotives.

Randolph added the state is “working really hard on looking at the Imperial Valley as a potential source of lithium” for EVs.

Investing abroad could be the solution to America’s clean energy future

Asked about how many cars Tesla will have made by August 2032—10 years from now—the company founder Elon Musk said: “I’d say 100 million is pretty doable.”
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Reaching the 100 million mark by the end of the decade is also considered essential to reduce carbon emissions and achieve the Paris Agreement.

In total, 22 US states have set the goal to have 100% carbon-free electricity before 2050.

A massive and rapid deployment of renewable energy is also central to Europe’s drive to end its dependency on Russian fossil fuels.

However, even as president Biden declared this week ‘Detroit is back’ and announced $900 million to build EV charging stations across America, the question remains how quickly the transition to renewable energy can be made.

In his latest book “Volt Rush: The Winners and Losers in the Race to Go Green,” Benchmark Mineral Intelligence Executive Editor Henry Sanderson discusses the global supply chain of materials and mining needed for the electric push.

MINING.COM: Is it feasible for us to transition to clean energy over the next decades?

We have to.

You look at the extreme weather, this year was the hottest in Europe.

China is dealing with record heat waves. So we have to move to clean energy.

Countries like China are victims of climate change that also produce many of the solutions.

So I think there’s a huge incentive to scale up clean energy and the costs.
The Russian invasion of Ukraine highlights how our reliance on fossil fuels is so problematic.
It may be difficult if we don’t want to rely on China at all. Does the US and Europe want to do it on their own without China?

That’s going to be more difficult in the time frame, by 2030, but with China, I think it’s possible.

MINING.COM: Is there enough metal to replace oil?

I think few people are aware that to solve climate change, we need speed and scale.

Scale is critical.

So when you’re talking about the scale of batteries for EVs, for energy storage, there are enough raw materials on the earth.

The problem we have is that this energy transition is quite a policy-driven one.

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It has to be fast to meet the climate goals. We’ve left it so late.

So when you have this exponential demand increase this decade and the next, it’s gonna be hard for mines to keep up. And also what sort of social environmental cost are we willing to bear to get all these mines into production?

Where are we willing to mine?

MINING.COM: Mining in America is not a really popular topic. How do you see Biden’s Administration’s push to clean energy so far?

The Inflation Reduction Act is important because it’s a signal and action.

The critical mineral requirements are very strict and difficult to meet. If mines can get approved in the US, then I think there’ll be policy support for it but it is difficult.

So what I see happening is probably more Canada.

There’ll be more mine development in Australia, in these free trade agreement countries.

What you need to do is build up the processing in the US or North America and Canada.

So you know that you can divert the raw materials from Australia to North America, not to China.

It’s just an industrial facility, it’s not rocket science.

If the US and Europe want to completely develop their own supply chains by scratch, that’s going to be very challenging

I think probably the best thing is to help these mineral-rich countries with mining backgrounds to develop their mines.

That’s probably easier than building in the US. (y)

Why aren’t we helping the DRC? :unsure:


There’s graphite in Mozambique, for example, and these are all places that will suffer from climate change but can benefit from these minerals.

MINING.COM: What are the biggest challenges right now for the energy transition?

The biggest challenge is geopolitical.

If the US and Europe want to completely develop their own supply chains by scratch, that’s going to be very challenging.

Given the urgency of this energy transition, we probably all need to work together a bit more.

The second challenge is the poorer countries.

What are we going to do to help them? :unsure:


What we can do to help them mine sustainably and responsibly?

There are a couple of risks.

First is that tensions escalate to a point where China considers using its leverage.

We’ve seen China boycott foreign companies and foreign goods.

The second risk is that a lot of these Chinese companies are very innovative, especially battery companies.

If there is a shortage of batteries or raw materials, how much will they get priority over Western companies?

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Chances of Nigel showing up for the AGM if this shit ain't sorted? I live on the Sunshine Coast QLD . It's a long way to go if it's a company robot reading off a script and then doing a runner . Need to know if Nige will be attending before I book a ticket . Otherwise it would be a waste of money/time . Love Perth though . Lived there for a stint in my youth .
 
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Chances of Nigel showing up for the AGM if this shit ain't sorted? I live on the Sunshine Coast QLD . It's a long way to go if it's a company robot reading off a script and then doing a runner . Need to know if Nige will be attending before I book a ticket . Otherwise it would be a waste of money/time . Love Perth though . Lived there for a stint in my youth .
Suncoast as well mate, might be able to sort you out re flights, if indeed it’s worth going
 
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Suncoast as well mate, might be able to sort you out re flights, if indeed it’s worth going
Wombat goes via private jet to sort out the bullshit at the agm.
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Suncoast as well mate, might be able to sort you out re flights, if indeed it’s worth going


It seems your the man 😉

I’ll keep it in mind for coke and strippers party 🎈

GLTAH
 
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Rediah

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Suncoast as well mate, might be able to sort you out re flights, if indeed it’s worth going
From Brisbane, I will give you guys some 🍍 to carry on our behalf and place them in front of the board members to get some real answers.
 
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Wondering if I really should get that hearing test Frank. Did you hear the actual mention of AVZ?

Hi Fred,

No, No mention of Manono Bro :rolleyes:

Just Joe adding his 2c worth on Twitter ;)

#i-know-nothing-i-hear-nothing.jpg


Forget the Test ;)

All the Best (y)

Frank :cool:
 
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Onthefm

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Chances of Nigel showing up for the AGM if this shit ain't sorted? I live on the Sunshine Coast QLD . It's a long way to go if it's a company robot reading off a script and then doing a runner . Need to know if Nige will be attending before I book a ticket . Otherwise it would be a waste of money/time . Love Perth though . Lived there for a stint in my youth .
Lived-in perth and wait a while for over 10 oor smoothing years. Not there anymore tank ch but would definitely book a flight to find out wtf is going on. If nothing but to see the troughs of all troughs. Win or lose that would be worth seeing.
 
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Vidiye Tshimanga placed under provisional arrest warrant



After a long interrogation, from 11 to 18 hours at the general prosecutor's office near the Kinshasa-Gombe Court of Appeal, he was invited to answer questions relating to the facts constituting the prevention of corruption.

Vidiye Tshimanga is indeed at the heart of a scandal linking him to an attempt to peddle influence with supposed investors in the mines.

He resigned from his post on Friday, September 16, following a series of videos that went viral on social networks, where he speaks with these supposed investors.

In a video published by "Le Temps", a Swiss media, he was shown promising his interlocutors security, asking them in return for a 20% commission on future operations.

The lawyers for the former adviser, approached by Radio Okapi after the hearings, refused to speak.

As for the Agency for the Prevention and Fight against Corruption, it confirms that it has opened an investigation against Vidiye Tshimanga.


*Place your Bets on how long he spends behind bars ( Made an example of / Pays for his Dirty Deeds ) :unsure:

Gets off with a slap on the wrist by a corrupt Judge :rolleyes:

Squeals like a Pig and gets away with it :mad:

Pigs Arse (n)

Frank :cool:

 
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Tunedin

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Vidiye Tshimanga placed under provisional arrest warrant



After a long interrogation, from 11 to 18 hours at the general prosecutor's office near the Kinshasa-Gombe Court of Appeal, he was invited to answer questions relating to the facts constituting the prevention of corruption.

Vidiye Tshimanga is indeed at the heart of a scandal linking him to an attempt to peddle influence with supposed investors in the mines.

He resigned from his post on Friday, September 16, following a series of videos that went viral on social networks, where he speaks with these supposed investors.

In a video published by "Le Temps", a Swiss media, he was shown promising his interlocutors security, asking them in return for a 20% commission on future operations.

The lawyers for the former adviser, approached by Radio Okapi after the hearings, refused to speak.

As for the Agency for the Prevention and Fight against Corruption, it confirms that it has opened an investigation against Vidiye Tshimanga.


*Place your Bets on how long he spends behind bars ( Made an example of / Pays for his Dirty Deeds ) :unsure:

Gets off with a slap on the wrist by a corrupt Judge :rolleyes:

Squeals like a Pig and gets off anyway :mad:

Pigs Arse (n)

Frank :cool:


To be made an example of, showing that there is no longer such a thing as untouchable. Thanks to the US influence and backing no doubt. For the last year US visiting officials and Biden has given the DRC the constant message, get on top of the corruption. I think the DRC are getting some help on that front recently. They will go for the most influential and make them examples. Once one falls they all will start to fall, and there are a lot of trees to fell. The US would already have their deck of cards to go after. They always go for the heads of the snake. They will also make it very public. The US has the worlds greatest intelligence capability. They already know who is who in the brown paper bag club holding the DRC to ransom.

I reckon we will see other deals with other countries taking up positions in a massive push to rapidly industrialise the DRC and surrounding partner countries in making it a global hub of EV manufacturing and supply. AVZ will become something like a corporation. Nigel said this himself during the last round of SH meeting in Aus. I heard him say this at the Melbourne presentation. At the time I could see there was a massive amount of work to be done to change the business environment in the DRC, it was very much a forward looking statement, and at the time a pipe dream to be honest. Now we see a positioning of other interested global powers besides China moving in. China is about to get spanked by the US in the DRC I reckon, and they don’t need to touch a Chinese National to do it. They will go for the most powerful National DRC power figures that are China’s pawns.
 
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