AVZ Discussion 2022

[tolate]

""""""""""""""Well TRUMP has backed off a bit on the CHINA matter"""""""

Pivoting away from a full-blown trade war, Trump plans to issue a broad memorandum that directs federal agencies to study existing trade policies and relationships with China, Canada and Mexico, the Wall Street Journal reported earlier Monday.

Wall Street breathed a collective sigh a relief after Donald Trump held off from imposing China-specific tariffs on his first day in office, pushing US equity futures higher. The dollar slumped.
“I do think, and maybe it’s just a hope, that Trump backs off from his most extreme rhetoric, especially on the deportation and tariff fronts,” said Marvin Loh, senior macro strategist at State Street Global Markets.

Monday’s whipsaw moves in equity futures and currencies, on a day when much of US trading was closed, nevertheless provided a foretaste of the uncertainty and volatility to come, according to Michael Green, chief strategist at Simplify Asset Management.

“The challenge becomes are you protecting against the risk of tariffs, or the risk that expected tariffs are not going to be put on?” Green said in an interview with Bloomberg TV. “It becomes a really challenging environment, one that likely translates to higher implied volatility.”

 

[tolate]

""""""""""""""Well TRUMP has backed off a bit on the CHINA matter"""""""

Pivoting away from a full-blown trade war, Trump plans to issue a broad memorandum that directs federal agencies to study existing trade policies and relationships with China, Canada and Mexico, the Wall Street Journal reported earlier Monday.

Wall Street breathed a collective sigh a relief after Donald Trump held off from imposing China-specific tariffs on his first day in office, pushing US equity futures higher. The dollar slumped.
“I do think, and maybe it’s just a hope, that Trump backs off from his most extreme rhetoric, especially on the deportation and tariff fronts,” said Marvin Loh, senior macro strategist at State Street Global Markets.

Monday’s whipsaw moves in equity futures and currencies, on a day when much of US trading was closed, nevertheless provided a foretaste of the uncertainty and volatility to come, according to Michael Green, chief strategist at Simplify Asset Management.

“The challenge becomes are you protecting against the risk of tariffs, or the risk that expected tariffs are not going to be put on?” Green said in an interview with Bloomberg TV. “It becomes a really challenging environment, one that likely translates to higher implied volatility.”

More News on the TRUMO tariff war

How China tariffs could backfire on U.S. — Harvard Gazette

Economists say there could be unintended consequences, including higher prices, supply chain disruptions, and possibly opening door to improving Beijing’s ties to American allies.

news.harvard.edu

December 3, 2024 long read
President-elect Donald Trump’s longstanding plans to hit China with stiff tariffs would likely deal a blow to China’s already faltering economy, but it could also trigger some unintended negative consequences for the U.S. economy and foreign relations, economists say.

 

[Skar]

If I gesticulate that I'm ripping my heart out and throwing it into crowd then for some reason my palm is facing upwards, in a sort of feeding the pigeons motion but that could just be me and I certainly don't thrust it out in a stiff, sharp upwards diagonal motion.

Do I think he's a Nazi? No in fact I always thought he was Jewish for some reason or at least a robot like Zuckerberg.

Do I think he made an unfortunate error in choice of gesture? Yes but I'm grateful for the meme content.

I think he is a Troll, knew exactly what he was doing and did it for the lols/inside joke "I am so powerful I'll get away with this".... I used to like or at least agreed with his ideas, free speech, end the woke mind virus etc.... then he started banning people for insulting him on X and his ego got hurt when everyone called him out for cheating in video games after claiming he was a "world class gamer". I now think he is a typical billionaire nothing utopic about him, thats just his sales pitch, just as selfish as the rest of us.

 

[Flight996]

I think he is a Troll, knew exactly what he was doing and did it for the lols/inside joke "I am so powerful I'll get away with this".... I used to like or at least agreed with his ideas, free speech, end the woke mind virus etc.... then he started banning people for insulting him on X and his ego got hurt when everyone called him out for cheating in video games after claiming he was a "world class gamer". I now think he is a typical billionaire nothing utopic about him, thats just his sales pitch, just as selfish as the rest of us.

Musk is no different from Bezos or Zuckergerg or a whole bunch of other immensely wealthy and influential corporate czars. They are just part of the unelected corporatocracy that runs America.

Personally, I believe we have a lot to fear from them.

 

[GuruDukun]

AVZ et CATH chinois signent un accord pour recevoir $ 20 millions de fonds d'arbitrage contre la RDC

Le 8 janvier 2025, AVZ a publié une annonce déclarant la conclusion d'un accord avec CATH chinois, dont voici les principales informations :

www.7sur7.cd

Perhaps already posted?

China's AVZ and CATH Sign Agreement to Receive $20 Million in Arbitration Funds Against DRC
Monday, January 20, 2025 - 8:39pm
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On January 8, 2025, AVZ issued an announcement declaring the conclusion of an agreement with Chinese CATH, the main information of which is as follows:

CATH will provide AVZ with $20 million in funding, of which $10 million will be drawn before the end of January 2025.
These fees will allow AVZ to continue to commence international arbitrations. According to publicly available information, the arbitration initiated by AVZ against the DRC at ICSID in Washington had already been suspended due to AVZ's non-payment of costs; the arbitration initiated against Cominiere at the ICC in Paris had also been suspended due to the non-payment by AVZ.

But all that is different today, because AVZ received financial support from CATH Chies and the international arbitration fees were paid immediately on January 9.

CATH will pay $259.25 million to AVZ for a 30.5% interest in the Manono project;
This is even more surprising: the CAMI website shows that the ownership of the Manono Project belongs to Cominiere, so how could AVZ sell a 30.5% stake in the "Manono Project"?

According to AVZ's announcement, CATH will indirectly acquire AVZ's 30.5% stake in Dathcom by acquiring the shares of Green Lithium, a wholly-owned subsidiary of AVZ, which was sued by Cominiere in 2022 for creating a fake RCCM and unilaterally stating that it owned 75% of Dathcom.

AVZ's repeated references to the "right of first refusal" have been repeatedly violated by AVZ itself, and it is not surprising that such a company is being delisted from the ASX.
More importantly, when AVZ sold China's CATH, it acquired 30.5% of the shares for $259.25 million, or $8.5 million per share. However, AVZ had only $15 million, or $1 million per share, when it offered to buy 15% of the shares from Cominiere.

It is clear that AVZ will fight to the end against the DRC.

 

[hedrox]

Zijin Mining in acquisition mode ......they are probably in the know, that they will loose Manano soon

https://www.zijinmining.com/news/news-detail-121729.htm

 

[Remark]

AVZ et CATH chinois signent un accord pour recevoir $ 20 millions de fonds d'arbitrage contre la RDC

Le 8 janvier 2025, AVZ a publié une annonce déclarant la conclusion d'un accord avec CATH chinois, dont voici les principales informations :

www.7sur7.cd

Perhaps already posted?

China's AVZ and CATH Sign Agreement to Receive $20 Million in Arbitration Funds Against DRC
Monday, January 20, 2025 - 8:39pm
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On January 8, 2025, AVZ issued an announcement declaring the conclusion of an agreement with Chinese CATH, the main information of which is as follows:

CATH will provide AVZ with $20 million in funding, of which $10 million will be drawn before the end of January 2025.
These fees will allow AVZ to continue to commence international arbitrations. According to publicly available information, the arbitration initiated by AVZ against the DRC at ICSID in Washington had already been suspended due to AVZ's non-payment of costs; the arbitration initiated against Cominiere at the ICC in Paris had also been suspended due to the non-payment by AVZ.

But all that is different today, because AVZ received financial support from CATH Chies and the international arbitration fees were paid immediately on January 9.

CATH will pay $259.25 million to AVZ for a 30.5% interest in the Manono project;
This is even more surprising: the CAMI website shows that the ownership of the Manono Project belongs to Cominiere, so how could AVZ sell a 30.5% stake in the "Manono Project"?

According to AVZ's announcement, CATH will indirectly acquire AVZ's 30.5% stake in Dathcom by acquiring the shares of Green Lithium, a wholly-owned subsidiary of AVZ, which was sued by Cominiere in 2022 for creating a fake RCCM and unilaterally stating that it owned 75% of Dathcom.

AVZ's repeated references to the "right of first refusal" have been repeatedly violated by AVZ itself, and it is not surprising that such a company is being delisted from the ASX.
More importantly, when AVZ sold China's CATH, it acquired 30.5% of the shares for $259.25 million, or $8.5 million per share. However, AVZ had only $15 million, or $1 million per share, when it offered to buy 15% of the shares from Cominiere.

It is clear that AVZ will fight to the end against the DRC.

"China's AVZ"

 

[Flight996]

Turns out he is the Henry Ford of our generation.

Mate, much has been written about Henry Ford's contribution to the Soviet Union's economy in the 1920s and 1930s. However, what is not so well known is the story of the thousands of US workers in the depression years lured by propaganda to the Soviet Union on the promise of jobs and a just society.

Very few made it back to the US. Most died as penniless factory slaves or were shipped to the gulags...never to be seen or heard from again.

"The Forsaken: An American Tragedy in Stalin's Russia" by Tim Tzouliadis.

Cheers
F

 

[protoje]

How many shares did that cnt Carrotdick end up with fleecing AVZ shareholders and buying their shares for 1 fucking cent

Anyone know how many Resource Capital Investments ended up with

Just wondering.....

I can see all those poor Mum and Dad investors starting a class action against them once they see they have been blatantly manipulated and ripped off in a SCAM!

 

[Goldenboy]

AVZ et CATH chinois signent un accord pour recevoir $ 20 millions de fonds d'arbitrage contre la RDC

Le 8 janvier 2025, AVZ a publié une annonce déclarant la conclusion d'un accord avec CATH chinois, dont voici les principales informations :

www.7sur7.cd

Perhaps already posted?

China's AVZ and CATH Sign Agreement to Receive $20 Million in Arbitration Funds Against DRC
Monday, January 20, 2025 - 8:39pm
ShareFacebookTwitterLinkedInWordPressMessengerWhatsAppSkypeViberMessageOutlook.comEmailCopy Link
Image
Third-party rights
On January 8, 2025, AVZ issued an announcement declaring the conclusion of an agreement with Chinese CATH, the main information of which is as follows:

CATH will provide AVZ with $20 million in funding, of which $10 million will be drawn before the end of January 2025.
These fees will allow AVZ to continue to commence international arbitrations. According to publicly available information, the arbitration initiated by AVZ against the DRC at ICSID in Washington had already been suspended due to AVZ's non-payment of costs; the arbitration initiated against Cominiere at the ICC in Paris had also been suspended due to the non-payment by AVZ.

But all that is different today, because AVZ received financial support from CATH Chies and the international arbitration fees were paid immediately on January 9.

CATH will pay $259.25 million to AVZ for a 30.5% interest in the Manono project;
This is even more surprising: the CAMI website shows that the ownership of the Manono Project belongs to Cominiere, so how could AVZ sell a 30.5% stake in the "Manono Project"?

According to AVZ's announcement, CATH will indirectly acquire AVZ's 30.5% stake in Dathcom by acquiring the shares of Green Lithium, a wholly-owned subsidiary of AVZ, which was sued by Cominiere in 2022 for creating a fake RCCM and unilaterally stating that it owned 75% of Dathcom.

AVZ's repeated references to the "right of first refusal" have been repeatedly violated by AVZ itself, and it is not surprising that such a company is being delisted from the ASX.
More importantly, when AVZ sold China's CATH, it acquired 30.5% of the shares for $259.25 million, or $8.5 million per share. However, AVZ had only $15 million, or $1 million per share, when it offered to buy 15% of the shares from Cominiere.

It is clear that AVZ will fight to the end against the DRC.

7sur7 …… seriously ??!! I guess regurgitating shit that you are told is easier than doing some investigative journalism. ( pass another brown envelope please … )

 

[Hodlandwin69]

Musk is no different from Bezos or Zuckergerg or a whole bunch of other immensely wealthy and influential corporate czars. They are just part of the unelected corporatocracy that runs America.

Personally, I believe we have a lot to fear from them.

Sure, but Elons real goal is to get to Mars, everything else is his side quest. Politics helps him achieve that goal.

 

[Winenut]

Sure, but Elons real goal is to get to Mars, everything else is his side quest. Politics helps him achieve that goal.

I hope Elon fulfills his dream

The further away he is from here the better IMO

 

[Hudnut]

Mate, much has been written about Henry Ford's contribution to the Soviet Union's economy in the 1920s and 1930s. However, what is not so well known is the story of the thousands of US workers in the depression years lured by propaganda to the Soviet Union on the promise of jobs and a just society.

Very few made it back to the US. Most died as penniless factory slaves or were shipped to the gulags...never to be seen or heard from again.

"The Forsaken: An American Tragedy in Stalin's Russia" by Tim Tzouliadis.

Cheers
F

"As with most famous people, Henry Ford was complex and had traits and took actions that were laudatory as well as troublesome. The most controversial and least admirable aspect of Ford’s career was his descent into anti-Semitism. Convinced that “bankers” and “the Jews” were responsible for a whole range of things he didn’t like, from the world war to short skirts to jazz music, Ford used his newspaper, the Dearborn Independent, to carry on an active anti-Semitic campaign. Between 1920 and 1922 a series of articles denounced all things Jewish. While officially apologizing for the articles in 1927, Ford’s anti-Jewish sentiments ran deep. Seen within the context of the times, they demonstrate the sharp realities and tensions that emerge in societies undergoing profound cultural, economic and political change. "

-- The Henry Ford Museum - www.thehenryford.org

 

[pow4ade]

If I gesticulate that I'm ripping my heart out and throwing it into crowd then for some reason my palm is facing upwards, in a sort of feeding the pigeons motion but that could just be me and I certainly don't thrust it out in a stiff, sharp upwards diagonal motion.

Do I think he's a Nazi? No in fact I always thought he was Jewish for some reason or at least a robot like Zuckerberg.

Do I think he made an unfortunate error in choice of gesture? Yes but I'm grateful for the meme content.

Well said, (pigeon) point taken.

 

[Frank]

Great find Frank.

Interestingly, CATL's TENER batteries (as proposed for the Saudi battery) use lithium carbonate, rather than lithium hydroxide as the precursor material.

This may explain why AVZ's announcement on 8 Jan 2025, said that AVZI will be granted an option to purchase up to 49% of CATH's interest in a lithium hydroxide or carbonate conversion plant (LHC Plant) to be built by CATH.

I was intrigued at the time why carbonate got a mention.

Cheers
F

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[cruiser51]

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[Mute22]

Umm, it absolutely does needs to be viewed in context. Otherwise that single frame appears to be a Nazi salute, happily seized upon by Trump haters.

However, Musk said, "Thank you! My heart goes out to you". He then gesticulates by slapping his hand on his heart before ripping his hand away towards the audience, he is sending his heart to:

Oh no! The man put his hand in the naughty no no White person bad position!

This is fake outrage to distract from actual issues. The guys just on the spectrum.

 

[JasonM]

Oh no! The man put his hand in the naughty no no White person bad position!

This is fake outrage to distract from actual issues. The guys just on the spectrum.

dont agree with that. I can understand why some people might be upset. seeing that symbol makes me think of nazi germany and the millions that they killed. quite a disgusting act by anyone doing that deliberately imo. whether he did it deliberately or not, dont know, does he deserve the benefit of the doubt? is being on the spectrum a valid excuse or just a convenient out?

fwiw, I'm not a trump hater either, just dont agree with half of the shit he does, the other half ok. I like his anti woke stance, pro business, cutting back federal employees and spending, etc. I dont like his chaos nature, attack on democracy, disrespect for women and doing things such as giving pardons to the rioters that attacked police. I also get why he was elected and believe that choice needs to be respected. I tend to think trump wont be as bad as feared and wont be as good as hoped.

 

[BRICK]

seriously 57 fucking million????

Grubby arsehole....

 

[ptlas]

Musk is no different from Bezos or Zuckergerg or a whole bunch of other immensely wealthy and influential corporate czars. They are just part of the unelected corporatocracy that runs America.

Personally, I believe we have a lot to fear from them.

Fear isn't the half of it.
Outrageous ( maybe ) thoughts:

Twenty years hence.
Dozens of massive glaciers are slipping into the world's oceans, with more to follow.
Oceans already 10m higher than now, with hundreds more metres of rises forecast, making life on earth all but impossible.

Think disease and perpetual wars for resources. USA, NATO, AUKUS or the ABC gonna help?
What do you think.

Still, at least Oz will have Virginia Class submarines. Maybe.

On a ramp, maybe somewhere in Eastern Europe, our great non-nazi 'Leier' ( Afrikaans ) is selecting the participants for a one- way ticket to Mars.
Right to the rocketship.
Left to the showers. Well actually warm baths, but they will heat up.
Hope you're not transgender. Woke is out.

Do dystopian ideas seem crazy to you? Impossible?
Those sorts of scenarios were believable on screens, so why not now?

Only joking. Maybe.