AVZ Discussion 2022

[tolate]

My personal concerns as a Share Holder, how long with this $15 mill last with this long drawn out SAGA, and where will the next lot of money come from..??????????
AVZ S H U S 20 mill that has gone missing from pass AVZ LAWYERS ESCROW ACCOUNT..!
Now remember this was suggested money for 15% ownship.
So catch 22 matter..!
This is the LOCKE DEAL not the 20 mill AVZ wanted ...WHY
Committed Amount •
Up to US$15,000,000. •
Access to US$5,000,000 of the Committed Amount is subject to, among other things, AVZ demonstrating a need for the additional funds and submitting a budget acceptable to Locke

 

[wombat74]

Why not call the dog by it's real name?

It is not DRC/China, but China/DRC.

Any money pumped into the DRC by any organisation, is immediately syphoned off by the corrupt fuckers and monetised into expensive watches, real estate all over the world and expensive shiny cars. The more blink the better.
5, 6 centuries ago, the European 'explorers' used mirrors and marbles, nothing has changed.

China is fully aware of this and couldn't give a rat's arse, simply because it suits their final ambitions, get as cheap as possible and without losing any lives huge mineral deposits to be able to control the world.
Control of the world is their end game.

They will use any method to achieve this, legal, or illegal, all in the name to further China.
To achieve that they have completely fucked entire Africa over and can make Africa jump the way Xi wants them to jump.

And there one has to understand that China doesn't mean China, but means the upper echelons of the Chinese communist party, which is an organisation more ruthless and corrupt than Putin, prepared to knock their own comrades off, if they don't tow the line, or enrich themself without taking the hierarchy in consideration.

That is what AVZ is dealing with.

Shane the absolute fuckhead from Tasmania is so far up himself and so confused with his million aliases, that he can't see and understand that he is being used in this complete shemozzle, he is feeling mighty important.
I can't wait till the law catches up with the fucking idiot.

As they say 'pride comes before the fall'.

Don't be too surprised if Shane morphs himself into another identity, fairly soon, adding to his enormous list of fukhead personalities.
Even Sigmund Freud would have to stop all his work and going to the pub, to deal with this obsessive dangerous idiot.

I think everyone is aware the CCP controls the DRC Government . That doesn't diminish the satisfaction we are going to get by dragging the DRC Government to the ICSID final Verdict, and if found guilty , exposing them for one of the biggest acts of Corruption and Theft against a Foreign Investor in recent history .An act of Corruption and Theft of Global Significance . Exposing them for having lied to the International Investment Community with regards to the DRC stamping out corruption where they see it . Lied about the DRC now being a safe place for foreign investors . The main game now is dragging the DRC Government to the ICSID . Talk by some that the DRC will not honour the ICSID final Verdict is irrelevant . If the DRC Gov is Guilty they need to be exposed in the International Courts . If they are confident , they could start by paying their own ICSID fees .

 

[tolate]

I think everyone is aware the CCP controls the DRC Government . That doesn't diminish the satisfaction we are going to get by dragging the DRC Government to the ICSID final Verdict, and if found guilty , exposing them for one of the biggest acts of Corruption and Theft against a Foreign Investor in recent history .An act of Corruption and Theft of Global Significance . Exposing them for having lied to the International Investment Community with regards to the DRC stamping out corruption where they see it . Lied about the DRC now being a safe place for foreign investors . The main game now is dragging the DRC Government to the ICSID . Talk by some that the DRC will not honour the ICSID final Verdict is irrelevant . If the DRC Gov is Guilty they need to be exposed in the International Courts . If they are confident , they could start by paying their own ICSID fees .

Is this your personal assumption …?
Because one would assume there is no evidence to support such Assumptions
Well I’m one that is not aware to this matter
Please could you direct me where I could find such evidence

 

[Winenut]

The way long standing paid up members are being treated/ reported/ moderated with contempt by admin since you know who arrived is absolutely appalling

Many contributors came here in the very early days, defecting from the crapper to get away from the trolls and have been the backbone of the forum for years

Now the trolls have migrated here after actually being banned from the crapper and are welcomed by admin, not community moderated or banished (despite multiple requests from many significant contributors) and now genuine long term members are being reported by the trolls and then threatened with warnings from admin

This is NOT the TSE I came here for

And for the record those who can't be named can suck my hairy b*#$b#g

 

[Winenut]

Report that you creepy weasel....

 

[cruiser51]

The way long standing paid up members are being treated/ reported/ moderated with contempt by admin since you know who arrived is absolutely appalling

Many contributors came here in the very early days, defecting from the crapper to get away from the trolls and have been the backbone of the forum for years

Now the trolls have migrated here after actually being banned from the crapper and are welcomed by admin, not community moderated or banished (despite multiple requests from many significant contributors) and now genuine long term members are being reported by the trolls and then threatened with warnings from admin

This is NOT the TSE I came here for

And for the record those who can't be named can suck my hairy b*#$b#g

I hope you don't mind, but i'll take a raincheck on that offer.

For our overseas contributors:

A raincheck is a a ticket given for later use when a sporting fixture or other outdoor event is interrupted or postponed by rain.

 

[wombat74]

https://x.com/blaisengo
@blaisengo

"How will they make Congo pay? I vaguely remember when it was Zaire, the State’s assets abroad were targeted. There was a bunch of vultures who specifically went after that government."

https://x.com/AugustCohen4
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https://x.com/AugustCohen4


August V

@AugustCohen4


"Several things. But the most penalizing would be to first limit dollar access to DRC state-owned/managed entities. Then to any global business that does business in DRC using the dollar. And the worst, cutting off all dollar access. Both legal under Global Magnitsky sanctions made possible by US law giving @USTreasury this power. Either would severely damage DRC's economy given dollar dependence. The threat of this should compel DRC to start paying."
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Or Maybe in the case of AVZ Minerals the threat may encourage the DRC Gov to Negotiate an outcome .

 

[tolate]

Maybe open for thoughts the USA need the DRC
If they push the DRC it will only justify them joining China

 

[tolate]

https://x.com/blaisengo
@blaisengo

"How will they make Congo pay? I vaguely remember when it was Zaire, the State’s assets abroad were targeted. There was a bunch of vultures who specifically went after that government."

https://x.com/AugustCohen4
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https://x.com/AugustCohen4


August V
@AugustCohen4


"Several things. But the most penalizing would be to first limit dollar access to DRC state-owned/managed entities. Then to any global business that does business in DRC using the dollar. And the worst, cutting off all dollar access. Both legal under Global Magnitsky sanctions made possible by US law giving @USTreasury this power. Either would severely damage DRC's economy given dollar dependence. The threat of this should compel DRC to start paying."
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Or Maybe in the case of AVZ Minerals the threat may encourage the DRC Gov to Negotiate an outcome .

This was dicussed at the AGM this is someone notes from that 2024 AGM
Also DRC and the USA have just finished their SUMMIT not long ago
So their relationship seems good...imo

20/ American / Australian government support

Question 15 - What about Lobito corridor talks and impact on AVZ. Also degree of American / Aussie government support and assistance

Nigel – Previous US presidential candidate was aware.
Lucy Tamlyn (American ambassador to DRC) was aware
Biden government maintained balance between east and west

Can’t say much about Aussie government who are officially saying that they don’t interfere much in private business, but still occasionally support some WA businesses

 

[BEISHA]

I gotta say,the IGNORE function is a useful tool. Honestly, i have never used the function in my life, but have made a exception for the crapper turd ........works a charm, out of sight out of mind.

To say i am disappointed that the requests of multiple long term paid up posters of TSE wanting the crapper turd to be tossed out of this forum ( considering he / she was responsible for the destruction of HC AVZ forum ) to have been completely ignored by our administrator is a pure understatement to say the least, dare i say it, brown paper bags must have infiltrated this forum..

So a question, if folks are not prepared to use the IGNORE function and want to leave this forum ( which would be very disappointing ), what is to stop us creating a massive DM INVITATION ONLY discussion forum ?

Therefore making the public forum a ghost town ?

Just a thought.

 

[Doc]

I gotta say,the IGNORE function is a useful tool. Honestly, i have never used the function in my life, but have made a exception for the crapper turd ........works a charm, out of sight out of mind.

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To say i am disappointed that the requests of multiple long term paid up posters of TSE wanting the crapper turd to be tossed out of this forum ( considering he / she was responsible for the destruction of HC AVZ forum ) to have been completely ignored by our administrator is a pure understatement to say the least, dare i say it, brown paper bags must have infiltrated this forum..

So a question, if folks are not prepared to use the IGNORE function and want to leave this forum ( which would be very disappointing ), what is to stop us creating a massive DM INVITATION ONLY discussion forum ?

Therefore making the public forum a ghost town ?

View attachment 74551

Just a thought.

 

[Prod]

I gotta say,the IGNORE function is a useful tool. Honestly, i have never used the function in my life, but have made a exception for the crapper turd ........works a charm, out of sight out of mind.

View attachment 74550

To say i am disappointed that the requests of multiple long term paid up posters of TSE wanting the crapper turd to be tossed out of this forum ( considering he / she was responsible for the destruction of HC AVZ forum ) to have been completely ignored by our administrator is a pure understatement to say the least, dare i say it, brown paper bags must have infiltrated this forum..

So a question, if folks are not prepared to use the IGNORE function and want to leave this forum ( which would be very disappointing ), what is to stop us creating a massive DM INVITATION ONLY discussion forum ?

Therefore making the public forum a ghost town ?

View attachment 74551

Just a thought.

That sounds ok Beisha, but let's say we've got a group of 30 plus can you DM/PM all of them at once so that they all know what we're talking about or can you only talk to one at a time? I.T is not my strength, showing my age now.

 

[tolate]

Just been sitting back having a few whiskeys
Trying to work is there any positive for AVZ over the last couple of years..?
First we have a Imminent ML that hasn’t happened
No update on the TIA in regards to CATH agreements
No power
Lost 20 mill US in some escrow account
Suspended for 2 years
Then delisted
No Locke deal for 20 mill
About 7 court cases on going
ICC matters DRC refuse to pay fines
ICSID matters DRC don’t abide to INTERIM orders
AFP raid AVZ office in regards to bribery and corruption allegations
AVZ doesn’t pay ICSID fees
No 2024 Annual Report
About 5 employees have resigned in the past
On and On

Gee not much to look forward to for me as a Shareholder…!
This Saga just keeps going..!
One would assume now the DRC has major issues with AVZ…imo
Not good but I just hope these drinks make me fill better..!

 

[j.l]

Zijin Mining’s WA subsidiary Norton Gold Fields to probe corruption claims

Send in the AFP

 

[BEISHA]

That sounds ok Beisha, but let's say we've got a group of 30 plus can you DM/PM all of them at once so that they all know what we're talking about or can you only talk to one at a time? I.T is not my strength, showing my age now.

IT not my strength either , very old school, but i have been engaged in multiple chat DM before and when you post it reaches everyone concerned at one time, essentially it would be "business as usual " but the question i have is whats the limit on how many posters can get involved ?

 

[ptlas]

IT not my strength either , very old school, but i have been engaged in multiple chat DM before and when you post it reaches everyone concerned at one time, essentially it would be "business as usual " but the question i have is whats the limit on how many posters can get involved ?

I'm on a discord thread with a number of ex- Hot Crappers, who left because of an unrelenting troll that moderators did nothing about.

I believe that there is no limit to the number of members on the thread.

It's got some really useful functions, the main man has arranged apps to automatically post info.

Maybe the details of the thread could be shared by DM.

What I've got no idea about is how to set it up.

Anyone...?

 

[Xerof]

So I have just put the AVZ discussion 2023 THREAD on Ignore. It no longer appears. With the shit stain on ignore, it’s business as usual for me on the main thread

I’m not in favour of scurrying away to multiple DM. We should continue to advocate for @zeebot to rid this place of the toxicity.

If we cannot convince him to follow the tribe’s position then let’s look at invite only on either discord or signal

I’m prepared to wait until after NY to make a decision on whether I cancel my membership

 

[lellep]

I'm on a discord thread with a number of ex- Hot Crappers, who left because of an unrelenting troll that moderators did nothing about.

I believe that there is no limit to the number of members on the thread.

It's got some really useful functions, the main man has arranged apps to automatically post info.

Maybe the details of the thread could be shared by DM.

What I've got no idea about is how to set it up.

Anyone...?

If it is a discord you want, then I can set it up!

 

[ptlas]

If it is a discord you want, then I can set it up!

Maybe if folks like the @lellep post it will give an indication of the interest.

Though I suggest any action should be after New Year.

 

[Xerof]

Zijin Mining’s WA subsidiary Norton Gold Fields to probe corruption claims

Send in the AFP

This behind a paywall for me. Appreciate if someone could 12ft it and post it in here and here, for the database
https://thestockexchange.com.au/threads/reports-on-zijin-minings-violations.259614/