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Wankers can write anything they want.

Courts will have the final say

Yeah but it's worth calling out this absolute low-life fucker "Mills Tshibangu" on every single platform available

Just sayin'....
 
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Yeah but it's worth calling out this absolute low-life fucker "Mills Tshibangu" on every single platform available

Just sayin'....

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Kobold thing is interesting. Assuming you can believe anything on social media nowadays, it seems like Kobold 1) has been to Manolo 2) has publically stated it is looking at assets in DRC including lithium and has made a bid for one resource 3) is a USA company and 4) seems to be backed by some deep pockets.

In light of the current legal proceedings, I doubt a US domiciled company would go looking at the resource or core library unless AVZ had given the green light. Nor are they going to collude with the DRC to steal the resource when they know there's an extremely high chance the various legal actions will find in favour of AVZ. You could conclude the only reason they are looking is they are considering buying AVZ out?
Kobold's public statement lends support to that, as does the recent talk of the USA paying for transport routes etc out of the DRC. And if the chatter about Kobold's backers is correct they would have the cash and clout to make it happen.

Plus Geo's teasers about good news.

Perhaps a deal such as Kobold buys out Roche Dure, Zijin get the North, DRC are off the hook with potential damages from the various court cases and AVZ shareholders get some cash from Kobold and get the hell out of the DRC.

Anyway, all pure speculation and I have no actual clue. Lets see. And if it is true will AVZ shareholders be screwed over anyway by a very low takeover price? (Beggars cant be choosers, bird in the hand, it'll be tied up in court for years, something is better than nothing and all that.)

It's equally possible the corrupt players in the DRC are trying to screw over AVZ again and/or that the entire Kobald thing is a fantasy.
Kobold doing due diligence? I am leaning towards a TO by Kobold. Lets not forget that Jack Ma is part of Kobold and we know that he plays to the tune of Xi. This could be the win win that Felix is looking for to save face with the chinese.
Just my thoughts
 
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Bloody hope so, anyone been able to find Kobold Financials statements? Want to see how much cash they’re sitting on for any prospective purchase. Judging by their offices they’re running lean like a start up
 
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On the subject of Mills Tshibangu. Ronny Ngale who is the journalist who interviewed Tshibangu on YouTube responded to me.

Ronny previously believed some of Tshibangu’s lies but now has a better understanding of what’s really going on. He previously questioned this reply that August Cohen sent him but now is supportive of AVZ


August V
@AugustCohen4
Hello again, brother Ngale. I do understand Lingala. But I wouldn't say I'm a fluent speaker just yet. That said, and putting aside the commentary on DRC, the press, the Constitutional revisions and other matters, what is said about $AVZ here is misleading.

Here are the issues:

1. The speaker is clearly biased as he presents AVZ as the bad guy that is corrupting DRC's politicians. The Manono Dispute is not binary- its very complex and no side in the dispute are Angels.

2. The speaker also completely avoids the ownership disputes at the heart of the dispute- which is critically important context viewers need to fully understand the Manono Dispute.

3. The speaker fails to mention the others players in this dispute- particularly, DRC officials in the Ministry of Mines, DRC executives at state owned Cominiere, politicians like Senator @GuyLoando_ and former President Kabila, the Chinese miner Zijin, and the Chinese and Congolese who own Dathomir.

In otherwards, he's only singling out @AVZMinYianni which presents a misleading portrait of this dispute. To be clear, as a supporter of the Congolese and their young democracy, I'm very happy to see new media companies like Chat Television (CT) highlight and discuss important issues and in an African language using platforms Congolese can access via their mobile phones. But to do good journalism, CT should have had someone on this show that can speak for AVZ or do another show that allows AVZ's perspective to be heard by viewers.

I hope CT's managers will provide @AvzMinerals the opportunity to tell its side of the story so that Congolese who trust CT's news and commentary get a full picture of the Manono Dispute.

Here's CT's Youtube page: https://youtube.com/@chattvmillstshibangu



This is Chadrack Ngoy (who says he’s a lawyer and expert in criminal law) and is the person who posted Tshibangu’s lies 👇

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Chadrack-PLISTO NGOY
@drackNgoy4

#RDC | #FINANCES « Le scandale financier impliquant la société minière AVZ et la disparition de 20 millions de dollars américains prend un nouveau tournant. Les noms des autorités congolaises impliquées dans ce détournement de fonds devraient bientôt être révélés. Une enquête
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I responded to this with 👇

Dave Evans
@DaveEva12049801

Replying to @drackNgoy4
@Tshibangu_Mills is a liar and you are spreading his lies. The truth is easy to prove which is why AVZ is winning all cases in the @iccwbo and @icsid courts of arbitration and why the DRC has been ordered to reinstate AVZ mining permit and Cominiere ordered to pay penalties

Then this tweet to Ronny

Dave Evans
@DaveEva12049801

You need to get the facts right before you go spreading Mills Tshibangu’s lies 👇

https://x.com/DaveEva12049801/status/1852296082275107017

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Dave Evans
@DaveEva12049801

Replying to @Presidence_RDC and @ALINGETEJULES_K

The @IgfRdc Report on Cominiere and Zijin in English and French 👇



Recording of Celestin Kibeya taking a bribe from Zijin 👇

https://x.com/kongopress/status/1644597533987987456 @ICC_arbitration @icsid findings against Cominiere and Zijin @WorldBank

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Sorry for repeating those AVZ announcements but the point is that a little persistence can help the company and the shareholders on X are doing a great job supporting our company. Here’s the response from Ronny (the DRC journalist who interviewed Tshibangu) He liked the other responses too 👇

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Xerof

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I’m told avz desperately tried to stop Kobold going on site and tried to serve them papers in the airport which cominiere thugs wouldn’t allow them to.

Way more likely they are preying on our carcass now and are not happy they were so badly found out. Hopefully find out soon enough
IF correct, logic says they’re a hostile party so forget speculating about them coming to the rescue

IF correct, my view would be that Cominiere, who is stupid enough to think they own 100% of 13359, have started another sale process

So @Cumquat Cap is your source 100% reliable?
 
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Cumquat Cap

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Yes fairly reliable, don’t believe they have $avz best interests at heart in this secret jaunt into the jungle. Can always be wrong and hope I am
 
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Bloody hope so, anyone been able to find Kobold Financials statements? Want to see how much cash they’re sitting on for any prospective purchase. Judging by their offices they’re running lean like a start up
KoBold are a private company therefore are not required to disclose financial statements. However they have raised a total of $491,455,627 USD in their latest equity offering round as at 4th of October 2024 according to their SEC filings. Also they have multiple addresses listed online so the Berkeley location is likely just the official principal place of business but not a working office and their jurisdiction of incorporation is actually in Delaware.


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Their previous rounds raised a total of $395,833,015 USD 2023 & 2022 however the majority of this money is likely gone hence the need for further equity offerings

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I'd find it hard to believe that a us company with such big backers would willfully step into the minefield of manono without avz being aware and supportive. The blowback on kobold if they were up to no good would be significant. I find it more likely if a potential buyer was interested they would want to see what they're buying and what they're getting into, so a bit of due diligence. I also think it makes sense that avz is not there given the signals it would send given no agreement or understanding is announced. So I somewhat foolish and maybe naively hope kobold are potential buyers and an out for avz.

still waiting impatiently for @geo_au 's update.
 
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KoBold are a private company therefore are not required to disclose financial statements. However they have raised a total of $491,455,627 USD in their latest equity offering round as at 4th of October 2024 according to their SEC filings. Also they have multiple addresses listed online so the Berkeley location is likely just the official principal place of business but not a working office and their jurisdiction of incorporation is actually in Delaware.


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I'd find it hard to believe that a us company with such big backers would willfully step into the minefield of manono without avz being aware and supportive. The blowback on kobold if they were up to no good would be significant. I find it more likely if a potential buyer was interested they would want to see what they're buying and what they're getting into, so a bit of due diligence. I also think it makes sense that avz is not there given the signals it would send given no agreement or understanding is announced. So I somewhat foolish and maybe naively hope kobold are potential buyers and an out for avz.

still waiting impatiently for @geo_au 's update.
They don't have enough money to buy out AVZ

They do however have enough money with their latest raise to purchase a stake in Manono Lithium imo

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Cumquat Cap

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Wonder if that’s contingent on us getting funding or not? Blind Freddy can see ICSID and icc will be a win for $avz - bizarre behaviour
 
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On the subject of Mills Tshibangu. Ronny Ngale who is the journalist who interviewed Tshibangu on YouTube responded to me.

Ronny previously believed some of Tshibangu’s lies but now has a better understanding of what’s really going on. He previously questioned this reply that August Cohen sent him but now is supportive of AVZ


August V
@AugustCohen4
Hello again, brother Ngale. I do understand Lingala. But I wouldn't say I'm a fluent speaker just yet. That said, and putting aside the commentary on DRC, the press, the Constitutional revisions and other matters, what is said about $AVZ here is misleading.

Here are the issues:

1. The speaker is clearly biased as he presents AVZ as the bad guy that is corrupting DRC's politicians. The Manono Dispute is not binary- its very complex and no side in the dispute are Angels.

2. The speaker also completely avoids the ownership disputes at the heart of the dispute- which is critically important context viewers need to fully understand the Manono Dispute.

3. The speaker fails to mention the others players in this dispute- particularly, DRC officials in the Ministry of Mines, DRC executives at state owned Cominiere, politicians like Senator @GuyLoando_ and former President Kabila, the Chinese miner Zijin, and the Chinese and Congolese who own Dathomir.

In otherwards, he's only singling out @AVZMinYianni which presents a misleading portrait of this dispute. To be clear, as a supporter of the Congolese and their young democracy, I'm very happy to see new media companies like Chat Television (CT) highlight and discuss important issues and in an African language using platforms Congolese can access via their mobile phones. But to do good journalism, CT should have had someone on this show that can speak for AVZ or do another show that allows AVZ's perspective to be heard by viewers.

I hope CT's managers will provide @AvzMinerals the opportunity to tell its side of the story so that Congolese who trust CT's news and commentary get a full picture of the Manono Dispute.

Here's CT's Youtube page: https://youtube.com/@chattvmillstshibangu



This is Chadrack Ngoy (who says he’s a lawyer and expert in criminal law) and is the person who posted Tshibangu’s lies 👇

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Chadrack-PLISTO NGOY
@drackNgoy4

#RDC | #FINANCES « Le scandale financier impliquant la société minière AVZ et la disparition de 20 millions de dollars américains prend un nouveau tournant. Les noms des autorités congolaises impliquées dans ce détournement de fonds devraient bientôt être révélés. Une enquête
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I responded to this with 👇

Dave Evans
@DaveEva12049801

Replying to @drackNgoy4
@Tshibangu_Mills is a liar and you are spreading his lies. The truth is easy to prove which is why AVZ is winning all cases in the @iccwbo and @icsid courts of arbitration and why the DRC has been ordered to reinstate AVZ mining permit and Cominiere ordered to pay penalties

Then this tweet to Ronny

Dave Evans
@DaveEva12049801

You need to get the facts right before you go spreading Mills Tshibangu’s lies 👇

https://x.com/DaveEva12049801/status/1852296082275107017

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Dave Evans
@DaveEva12049801

Replying to @Presidence_RDC and @ALINGETEJULES_K

The @IgfRdc Report on Cominiere and Zijin in English and French 👇



Recording of Celestin Kibeya taking a bribe from Zijin 👇

https://x.com/kongopress/status/1644597533987987456 @ICC_arbitration @icsid findings against Cominiere and Zijin @WorldBank

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Sorry for repeating those AVZ announcements but the point is that a little persistence can help the company and the shareholders on X are doing a great job supporting our company. Here’s the response from Ronny (the DRC journalist who interviewed Tshibangu) He liked the other responses too 👇

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Post of the year buddy.
 
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I missed Friday jokes as I was suffering depression , the police just shut all the alcohol shops in my home base in Java till after xmas but then I realized I stocked up so here is a late joke .
3 dogs at the vet
1st dog says to the others I chased and bit the postman so they are putting me down today
2nd dog says same here and I am also getting put down today.
3rd dog says well I was in the kitchen when my owner came in naked and bent over under the sink so I quickly mounted and had the time of my life , wow the other two said and your being put down for that , nah just in to have my nails clipped .
 
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Post of the year buddy.

Thank TC, that’s kind of you to say that, but to be honest I think the posts of the year go to @Carlos Danger for all the information and documents he’s provided.

I haven’t always agreed with him but have realised his contributions and the legal information he has posted has been invaluable to our forum, especially at times like this leading up to the AGM.

We know the corrupt actors are lurking here and on the other forums waiting for another opportunity to undermine our BOD and essentially us and one of the good things about our shareholders is they will never stop fighting until we get our rights restored and a fair price for our shares, not a fucken one cent offer with a comment saying “we are of the opinion that no significant value can be placed on AVZ shares”

We’ve fought too long to cop that bullshit, especially when we know what the shares would be worth if it wasn’t for the corrupt actors 👇

We have a defined lithium pegmatite deposit of 840 million tonnes (equal to 13.5 million tonnes of Li2O) multiplied by today’s price which is at a low) of US$800/tonne = $US10.8 billion.

Thats AU$15,654,000,000.00
= $15 billion 654 million Australian dollars
= > $4 per share

You could also take into account that

Li2O has been over US$8000/tonne
= Over $150 billion Australian dollars
= > $40 per share

Lithium futures prices recently were between US$1,000 - US$2,000/tonne
= Over $5 per share

It’s probably worth considering that’s near term futures pricing, the life of mine pricing should be well above that

Where’s @elphamale and @Scarpa they are better at valuations than me (Possibly lurking 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️). Anyhow, thanks again @TheCount
 
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Agreed, Dave and Carlos have been very phenomenal- appreciate all the effort lads
 
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Thank TC, that’s kind of you to say that, but to be honest I think the posts of the year go to @Carlos Danger for all the information and documents he’s provided.

I haven’t always agreed with him but have realised his contributions and the legal information he has posted has been invaluable to our forum, especially at times like this leading up to the AGM.

We know the corrupt actors are lurking here and on the other forums waiting for another opportunity to undermine our BOD and essentially us and one of the good things about our shareholders is they will never stop fighting until we get our rights restored and a fair price for our shares, not a fucken one cent offer with a comment saying “we are of the opinion that no significant value can be placed on AVZ shares”

We’ve fought too long to cop that bullshit, especially when we know what the shares would be worth if it wasn’t for the corrupt actors 👇

We have a defined lithium pegmatite deposit of 840 million tonnes (equal to 13.5 million tonnes of Li2O) multiplied by today’s price which is at a low) of US$800/tonne = $US10.8 billion.

Thats AU$15,654,000,000.00
= $15 billion 654 million Australian dollars
= > $4 per share

You could also take into account that

Li2O has been over US$8000/tonne
= Over $150 billion Australian dollars
= > $40 per share

Lithium futures prices recently were between US$1,000 - US$2,000/tonne
= Over $5 per share

It’s probably worth considering that’s near term futures pricing, the life of mine pricing should be well above that

Where’s @elphamale and @Scarpa they are better at valuations than me (Possibly lurking 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️). Anyhow, thanks again @TheCount
Dave ,, you don't normally give valuations it's something to toss around , Scarpa I remember from HC days was always accurate hopefully we will all have some direction sooner rather than later. I do like the sound of $40 music to my ears . Keep posting mate
 
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Thank TC, that’s kind of you to say that, but to be honest I think the posts of the year go to @Carlos Danger for all the information and documents he’s provided.

I haven’t always agreed with him but have realised his contributions and the legal information he has posted has been invaluable to our forum, especially at times like this leading up to the AGM.

We know the corrupt actors are lurking here and on the other forums waiting for another opportunity to undermine our BOD and essentially us and one of the good things about our shareholders is they will never stop fighting until we get our rights restored and a fair price for our shares, not a fucken one cent offer with a comment saying “we are of the opinion that no significant value can be placed on AVZ shares”

We’ve fought too long to cop that bullshit, especially when we know what the shares would be worth if it wasn’t for the corrupt actors 👇

We have a defined lithium pegmatite deposit of 840 million tonnes (equal to 13.5 million tonnes of Li2O) multiplied by today’s price which is at a low) of US$800/tonne = $US10.8 billion.

Thats AU$15,654,000,000.00
= $15 billion 654 million Australian dollars
= > $4 per share

You could also take into account that

Li2O has been over US$8000/tonne
= Over $150 billion Australian dollars
= > $40 per share

Lithium futures prices recently were between US$1,000 - US$2,000/tonne
= Over $5 per share

It’s probably worth considering that’s near term futures pricing, the life of mine pricing should be well above that

Where’s @elphamale and @Scarpa they are better at valuations than me (Possibly lurking 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️). Anyhow, thanks again @TheCount
Carlos gets my vote for the best posts of the campaign, relegating you to second place!!

The level of into and intel improves immeasurably each week.

Now, where’s @geo_au ??
 
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Kobold doing due diligence? I am leaning towards a TO by Kobold. Lets not forget that Jack Ma is part of Kobold and we know that he plays to the tune of Xi. This could be the win win that Felix is looking for to save face with the chinese.
Just my thoughts

Major backers of KoBold Metals also include: Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Xavier Niel, Richard Branson and Ray Dalio.

Now that's what I call a roll-call of rich, powerful and savvy investors.

The company's innovative approach to mineral exploration employs AI to find lithium deposits AI, and its high-profile backers have positioned it as a significant player in the quest for new age metals.

However, I have no idea of their true interest in Manono. They hardly need AI to tell them to 'dig here'. Having said that, I am rather surprised that any of them would want their names and reputations associated with shit-eating corrupt toads like Kebeya.

Regardless of their strategy and ultimate goal, I am absolutely sure they are well-informed of the DRC's reputation for corruption, the games being played, and the status of AVZ's stake in Manono.

Cheers
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