AVZ Discussion 2022

[Pokok]

Are you saying that once a company is delisted, it becomes impossible to keep any of their operations a secret?
That because you haven't heard of something happening, it means there must not be anything happening?
Just trying to get straight what you're saying.

Yes mate , I am saying I don't think anything is happening because it would have leaked by now .

 

[ChillaM]

P, your'e assuming that you must know everything that there is to be known about AVZ, because secrets are hard to keep - seems like logical fallacy.
I 'suspect' (without knowing for sure) that there are many many secrets and gaps in my knowledge, including about AVZ, of which I'm pig ignorant.
I don't know what I don't know, oink

 

[wombat74]

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I dont believe thats true - the West is not going to allow China to control the lithium market through theft.

Lets wait and see the outcome of the ICC and the ICSID.


Regards,

SilentOne

Mate an ICSID result is years away . How are your arteries ? Plaque build up ok ?How's your mental health ? If you think shareholders should wait around for an ICSID result and the very remote possibility of compensation$$$ years later , you are living in a f--king fairytale world mate. Your narrative thus far has a million holes it .

 

[Samus]

Surely you can imagine that unless you're in the trenches, you would be completely unaware of any western involvement or influence?
The herald sun doesn't have a monopoly on all the goings on in the world.

The show ain't over yet, I'm just saying if you don't know, why draw such conclusions?

I didn't draw any conclusion Azz, just making a statement. I'm not a herald sun reader and whatever else that implies, which actually sounds like you're trying to tar me with the wrong brush.
My opinion is based on a broad cross section of media that one must delve into these days in order to find some semblance of the truth.
There are things out of whack in the world right now and the Chinese interfering in critical minerals across the spectrum including the monopoly and depressing of prices unfortunately looks like taking advantage of wider issues in the West in my view.
Without delving into the politics we've got two geriatrics vying for power at the top and things look just as bad or worse further down the food chain as predatory totalitarian nations take advantage of our weak positions.
It doesn't feel like we're focussed enough on problems like we're facing with AVZ when domestic supply chains are just as much under threat and take priority.
In my opinion.

 

[oxxa23]

Fuck, take some chill pills people.... a bit of media telling us what we already knew re zijin not giving two fucks and everyone is in meltdown....

There is two forms of pressure that could get us a win here.... one is international courts.... the other is the USA and EU's desire not to let China dominate and manipulate....

Remember what sort of money both the usa and eu are throwing at their policies re not letting China dominate.... why would they be oblivious to manono and what it means to lithium.?

It's a political world, they can't just go in all guns blazing, especially when a govt hadn't even been finalised.


And rhino, not one bit of proof to say Locke is gone... albeit, nothing verbally to say they're staying either....

It's like an extra day to a weekend had given us all fears of a an extra day to stress and not get distracted with work.....

 

[SilentOne]

Mate an ICSID result is years away . How are your arteries ? Plaque build up ok ?How's your mental health ? If you think shareholders should wait around for an ICSID result and the very very very very very very remote possibility of compensation$$$ years and years and years later , you are living in a f--king fairytale world mate. Your narrative thus far has a million holes it .

Wombat,

If you think you have what is required - feel free to run for a board position and lead the charge.

I dont think things have years to run - but hey if I am wrong then you will feel the pain.

I am steadfast supporting the Board - otherwise your other option is to support MMGA and lets see where that goes.

I am happy to see the litigation to its end - but would prefer not to. And no, I can't afford to lose my investment, but I am not going to be bullied either (and no I don't see you as a bully).

Interesting foot note - not only am I an Analyst the group I work with specialise in attempted suicide - so both my mental health is fine, and my well being is good - I am glad that you care.

I take a matter-of-fact position on AVZ - lets simply wait for the ICC & ICSID rulings to play out.

Wishing you the best.

SilentOne

 

[Hodlandwin69]

Wombat,

If you think you have what is required - feel free to run for a board position and lead the charge.

I dont think things have years to run - but hey if I am wrong then you will feel the pain.

I am steadfast supporting the Board - otherwise your other option is to support MMGA and lets see where that goes.

I am happy to see the litigation to its end - but would prefer not to. And no, I can't afford to lose my investment, but I am not going to be bullied either (and no I don't see you as a bully).

Interesting foot note - not only am I an Analyst the group I work with specialise in attempted suicide - so both my mental health is fine, and my well being is good - I am glad that you care.

I take a matter-of-fact position on AVZ - lets simply wait for the ICC & ICSID rulings to play out.

Wishing you the best.

SilentOne

What kinda of work involves analysing attempted suicides? You do mental health research or something?

 

[Samus]

I'm not sure how anybody can place any faith in whatever sham of a new government the DRC comes up with after months of vying for positions of power for their friends and relatives. The place is a fucking joke, if they aren't all totally corrupt already give them a month or two just like we saw with Antoinette N'samba. It's a giant maffia network and embezzlement scheme.
Bring on ICSID.

 

[SilentOne]

What kinda of work involves analysing attempted suicides? You do mental health research or something?

My point was that my mental health is fine - and if it wasn't then I have plenty of support - Wombat had asked me a question and I had answered it.

I think it's also important that people need to think about the consequences of their posting and the potential triggers associated with postings- we should focus on supporting each other rather that finding fault or a worst-case scenario - what brings us together makes us stronger.

Dont feed the enemy with negativity - lets simply wait for the outcomes of the ICC & ICSID - speculating serves no purpose other than potentially triggering people's anxieties.

Just my thoughts.

SilentOne

 

[SilentOne]

I'm not sure how anybody can place any faith in whatever sham of a new government the DRC comes up with after months of vying for positions of power for their friends and relatives. The place is a fucking joke, if they aren't all totally corrupt already give them a month or two just like we saw with Antoinette N'samba. It's a giant maffia network and embezzlement scheme.
Bring on ICSID.

Sam,

You might be correct - however its a new round of Paper Bags - its getting expensive for the criminal element. How many times can SinBin buy the same car before they get overwhelmed by its' fumes.

I know I am showing my age, but I am thinking Monty Python.

Regards,

SilentOne

 

[Samus]

Sam,

You might be correct - however its a new round of Paper Bags - its getting expensive for the criminal element. How many times can SinBin buy the same car before they get overwhelmed by its' fumes.

I know I am showing my age, but I am thinking Monty Python.

Regards,

SilentOne

Seems to me like they've been doing it for decades to the point where it's become a way of life. Hopefully I've just become a bit jaded but it's difficult to feel anything otherwise after the unbelievable shit we've witnessed for the past two years and now even the refusal to abide by or even acknowledge the rulings of various arbitrations.
They're of weak morals and character and China has got them by the balls.

 

[Dave Evans]

Fuck, take some chill pills people.... a bit of media telling us what we already knew re zijin not giving two fucks and everyone is in meltdown....

There is two forms of pressure that could get us a win here.... one is international courts.... the other is the USA and EU's desire not to let China dominate and manipulate....

Remember what sort of money both the usa and eu are throwing at their policies re not letting China dominate.... why would they be oblivious to manono and what it means to lithium.?

It's a political world, they can't just go in all guns blazing, especially when a govt hadn't even been finalised.


And rhino, not one bit of proof to say Locke is gone... albeit, nothing verbally to say they're staying either....

It's like an extra day to a weekend had given us all fears of a an extra day to stress and not get distracted with work.....

I agree with you Ox. I posted that article here as more evidence of Zijin’s illegal actions (to add more proof to all the other illegal actions) not as a trigger to set off alarm bells. I also put it on a thread devoted to just Manono Lithium and in future I’ll just keep posting info to other threads.

I’m realising it’s too big a stretch for some people to use the information to help inform investors to what’s going on when they can more easily use it to spread their own fears to other investors who still believe the DLA Piper approach is the way to go and there’s a new DRC government that has only just formed in the last day or two.

Lukonde, Adele Kayinda, Antoinette N’samba all gone. Obviously no one else from the Steel City on TSE but whatever, get this into ya’s

 

[Lucas Don Velor]

I agree with you Ox. I posted that article here as more evidence of Zijin’s illegal actions (to add more proof to all the other illegal actions) not as a trigger to set off alarm bells. I also put it on a thread devoted to just Manono Lithium and in future I’ll just keep posting info to other threads.

I’m realising it’s too big a stretch for some people to use the information to help inform investors to what’s going on when they can more easily use it to spread their own fears to other investors who still believe the DLA Piper approach is the way to go and there’s a new DRC government that has only just formed in the last day or two.

Lukonde, Adele Kayinda, Antoinette N’samba all gone. Obviously no one else from the Steel City on TSE but whatever, get this into ya’s

You can take the boy out of Novo, but not the Novo out of the boy!

 

[Retrobyte]

 

[oxxa23]

I agree with you Ox. I posted that article here as more evidence of Zijin’s illegal actions (to add more proof to all the other illegal actions) not as a trigger to set off alarm bells. I also put it on a thread devoted to just Manono Lithium and in future I’ll just keep posting info to other threads.

I’m realising it’s too big a stretch for some people to use the information to help inform investors to what’s going on when they can more easily use it to spread their own fears to other investors who still believe the DLA Piper approach is the way to go and there’s a new DRC government that has only just formed in the last day or two.

Lukonde, Adele Kayinda, Antoinette N’samba all gone. Obviously no one else from the Steel City on TSE but whatever, get this into ya’s

all good dave, i wasnt having a dig at you....

or anyone for that matter... i realise there's triggers that some of us cant control... and god knows we've been through enough, so i understand people losing it every now and again... we just need to remind each other at those times..

 

[Frank]

 

[Hemicuda]

Get involved, spend time talking to people in private, investigate.

So much at present is confidential and very secretive, but if you care enough to research you can get a bit of an idea of the undisclosed manouvers taking place.

No one is going to announce it on a public forum.

Surely thats a piss take right?

 

[Azzler]

Surely thats a piss take right?

That's a very confusing and unexpected comment that makes no sense to me. You must be in a vastly differnt head space with what's going on, we're probably too far apart in our understanding of the situation to come to any agreement, so happy just to agree to disagree, with whatever you disagree with.

 

[Stockinvesting]

That's a very confusing and unexpected comment that makes no sense to me. You must be in a vastly differnt head space with what's going on, we're probably too far apart in our understanding of the situation to come to any agreement, so happy just to agree to disagree, with whatever you disagree with.

Headspace?

Are you for real???

Yes Hemicuda. Azzler is taking the piss.
You're the one in a different head space Azzler.

Good luck.

That's a very confusing and unexpected comment that makes no sense to me. You must be in a vastly differnt head space with what's going on, we're too far apart in our understanding of the situation to come to any agreement, so happy just to agree to disagree, with whatever you disagree with.

 

[RHyNO]

Zijin is fucking rich and doesn't need to raise money.

Who's going to fund us without ML?

Come on mate how much you got on the line here. Let’s get some flights some shovels!