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All the 'I told you so'ers coming out of the woodworks on social media now to rub salt into the wounds of holders is so pathetic and just displays a complete lack of class. Dealing with the corrupt scum that have put us in this situation has been mentally draining enough.
My advice,stay away from all social media except here mate....;)

TSE is all class , respect levels high, despite everyone hurting internally about this complete fucked up situation we are ALL facing...:poop::poop::ninja::(

More than ever now, with our mental faculties taking a further battering with AVZ being delisted , comms entering radio silence 2.0, we all need to stick together , comrades in arms, support one another as we enter another marathon in deciphering what will become of our investment....:unsure:

Ripper bunch of dudes / dudettes here, I wouldnt want to be anywhere else.

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“I always said that I dreamed of making my country a kind of Germany of Africa” (Tshisekedi)!

President Félix Tshisekedi has not abandoned his commitment to making his country an economic locomotive on the African continent, drawing inspiration from the German model to stimulate the economic development of the DRC.

Indeed, during his visit to Germany, 11 months after his accession to power, he met former Chancellor Angela Merkel and President Frank-Walter Steinmeier in Berlin, a historic city where the map of the DRC was sketched during the conference of 1884-1885.

Félix Tshisekedi also spoke with the Congolese diaspora in Germany.

In front of an assembly of Congolese, Félix Tshisekedi expressed his desire to see the DRC become the Germany of Africa.

“My mission is to restore the position of the Congo, our country, to its rightful place…

All my interlocutors noted the progress made in the Congo and committed to supporting us to help us steer the Congo towards development.

I committed myself by telling them: come with us and I promise to make Congo the Germany of Africa,” he declared on November 15, 2019.

This year again, at the start of his second term, President Tshisekedi reaffirmed his desire for bilateral collaboration, particularly in terms of infrastructure and clean energy, during his brief visit to Germany.

“I have a lot of admiration for what is being done in Germany.

I have always said that I dreamed of making my country a sort of Germany of Africa, therefore an engine of African development.

When it comes to infrastructure, we have enormous needs, and it is indeed the key to the development of a country.

Whether for road infrastructure or clean energy, especially at the moment.

Congo has assets, but we need investments to develop all of this,” said Félix Tshisekedi in an interview with Deutsche Welle.

During his stay, Head of State Félix Tshisekedi had a one-on-one meeting lasting more than 2 hours with Federal Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Sunday April 28 in Berlin.

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*Congo has assets, but we need investments to develop all of this,” said Félix Tshisekedi :ROFLMAO: :unsure: :rolleyes:

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We need the big turd emoji , he is so full of shit , the German and French investors should go and protest with AVZ sighs , surly the German government are not that stupid to know nothing about this corruption .
 
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Winenut

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While I agree with your sentiment, my understanding is that the FIRB still has jurisdiction over the sale of Australian companies or their assets to foreigners, which is pretty much how we got in this mess in the first place. This jurisdiction applies to both listed and non-listed (private) companies.

Specifically, foreign persons and entities generally require FIRB approval before acquiring a substantial interest (generally >20%) in an Australian entity that is valued above the relevant monetary threshold. The monetary threshold is A$330 million for investors not from FTA partner countries.

However, if Nigel and team take the business, rename it and domicile it offshore, that's a whole new ball game. Hence the potential to list on another platform such as TSX or LSE.

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Dathcom is the entity that people want

It is not domiciled in Australia

FIRB can say nothing if Dathcom is bought out by someone

AVZ Minerals (AVZ) owns 75% of Dathcom via AVZ International (AVZI)

AVZI could sell that interest in Dathcom and kick the money up to its parent company AVZ

AVZ could then choose to distribute the funds to shareholders, satisfy any liabilities and wind up the business with everyone happily riding off into the sunset

$12...$12...$12...
 
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do automic still manage the share register?
 
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cruiser51

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do automic still manage the share register?
This is what it said in the asx announcement:

Can I sell or transfer my shares if I want to?

We recommend that shareholders seek their own advice on this issue as circumstances may vary depending on the individual circumstances of each shareholder. Shareholders can complete an off-market transfer via Automic at https://investor.automic.com.au/ and navigating to the “Off-Market Transfer” section.

Based on that I would say yes.
 
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This is what it said in the asx announcement:

Can I sell or transfer my shares if I want to?

We recommend that shareholders seek their own advice on this issue as circumstances may vary depending on the individual circumstances of each shareholder. Shareholders can complete an off-market transfer via Automic at https://investor.automic.com.au/ and navigating to the “Off-Market Transfer” section.

Based on that I would say yes.
I give it 6 months after that investor.automic.com.au site will crash with the amount of people logging on :ROFLMAO:
 
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Dathcom is the entity that people want

It is not domiciled in Australia

FIRB can say nothing if Dathcom is bought out by someone

AVZ Minerals (AVZ) owns 75% of Dathcom via AVZ International (AVZI)

AVZI could sell that interest in Dathcom and kick the money up to its parent company AVZ

AVZ could then choose to distribute the funds to shareholders, satisfy any liabilities and wind up the business with everyone happily riding off into the sunset

$12...$12...$12...
Wintnut I will see your $12 and raise it to $14 , well that was my last dream, now I just have nightmares , NRL night whisky night
 
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This is what it said in the asx announcement:

Can I sell or transfer my shares if I want to?

We recommend that shareholders seek their own advice on this issue as circumstances may vary depending on the individual circumstances of each shareholder. Shareholders can complete an off-market transfer via Automic at https://investor.automic.com.au/ and navigating to the “Off-Market Transfer” section.

Based on that I would say yes.
Thanks Cruiser
 
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Mute22

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The worst part about de-listing will be Hotcrapper removing the AVZ ticker and the human refuse flooding here.
 
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Xerof

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The worst part about de-listing will be Hotcrapper removing the AVZ ticker and the human refuse flooding here.
Shouldn’t happen. I have a couple of others that are still on HC, one a disputed TO but delisted, and a receivership/administration

You can tell I’m a great stock picker
 
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Frank

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Pan American sells La Arena gold project in Peru to Zijin for $295 million

Pan American Silver said on Wednesday it has agreed to sell its 100% interest in the La Arena gold property in Peru to Jinteng Mining in Singapore, a subsidiary of China’s Zijin Mining Group.
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Total consideration consists of $245 million cash upfront and a $50 million contingent payment.

The transaction is expected to close in the third quarter of 2024.

The La Arena property is located in the La Libertad province of Peru. It comprises the La Arena gold mine and the La Arena II project, which is in advanced exploration.

The open-pit mine has been in operation since 2011.

Since acquiring the mine from Tahoe Resources in 2019, Pan American said it has added 535,521 oz. of gold through exploration and extended the mine life from 2021 to 2026, with the potential for further extension.

Under the terms of the deal, Zijin will grant Pan American a life-of-mine gold net smelter return royalty of 1.5% on the La Arena II project.

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* So these Slimy Fuckers at Zinjin can find plenty of Ca$h to Buy a Mine in Peru, but they'd prefer to Steal a Mine in Manono :mad:

Why is that :unsure:

Oh that's right :rolleyes:

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Winenut

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Shouldn’t happen. I have a couple of others that are still on HC, one a disputed TO but delisted, and a receivership/administration

You can tell I’m a great stock picker
I've got an old, old coal play in Canada where the fucking Alberta government decided to just repeal the legislation and effectively ban mining on the tenement.

Thanks very fucking much

Delisted on the ASX due to lack of reasonable activity and operations and still shambling along with litigation against the Alberta Government

Clearly I pick some absolute corkers too.....
 
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Ashlee

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Shorters on the other channel all freaking out, underlying comments and posting links.

Avz has enough money to continue these court cases which they will win and make very very uncomfortable for the DRC government. Cominiere told superiors we would go bankrupt and slip away which is not going to happen.

Read a few articles recently about large groups looking for lithium investments in Africa and have billions up their sleeve, draw your own conclusions.

Sucks for people needing cash soon but if reach out to shorters who are desperate to buy shares and close positions.

People are also suggesting we give Dathomir back 15% for $20M despite our court case being a slam dunk against them clearly, an absolute joke and very short sighted.

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Shouldn’t happen. I have a couple of others that are still on HC, one a disputed TO but delisted, and a receivership/administration

You can tell I’m a great stock picker
I had/still have shares in Comet CRL they were delisted and removed from the Crapper at the same time.
 
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I used to hold NGF until it was bought by a bunch of arseholes....
 
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Great to see we all have something in common! 🤣 My last delisting was IsignThis (ISX) when they voluntary delisted in October 2022.
 
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TLH

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Great to see Ty getting hammered on X by AVZ shareholders who can’t get a response to their questions.

A lot of criticism about Nigel….he may have done some things differently but there is no doubt he wants success for AVZ.
There wouldn’t be too many men who would be still standing from the bullshit Nigel has had to deal with…he is definitely a battle scarred soldier with more experience in the game now then any other candidate.
Like all of us I hope the DRC is taking the international court rulings serious and want to make a quick deal with AVZ to put an end to it.
I can still see the light!
 
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I'll take up the challenge Carlos....

Ministerial decree 00031 moved to nullify the relinquishment of the North and reinstate 13359 in its entirety to DATHCOM.

Why was this?

How about because of legal issues relating to unrealised promises and false pretence, as Outcast points out in his timeline, which I recently posted here. Effectively, this unwinds the North entirely, and leaves 13359 reunified and in the rightful name of DATHCOM. Remember, this Decree was initiated by DRC.....

So forget about all this talk of form filling with boxes ticked for relinquishment and so on. irrelevant, see first sentence

Yes, but... then came Ministerial decree 00032 , which revoked DATHCOM's ownership of 13359 in its entirety, for reasons not in the mining code (AVZ aren't being nice to other shareholders, etc)

AVZ assert that this decree is illegal and took it to ISCID

It is this decree that the ISCID case is all about - an illegal strip

#AVZ loves Ministerial Decree #31

Manono Lithium evaporates if we win at ISCID, IMO
So, you agree with me that Dathcom did in fact relinquish the north enacted by the first MoM decree and that this event was based on the waiver. Otherwise, the new decree could not have nullified said relinquishment. The key thing to remember is that it wasn’t the original decree that gave the legal basis for the relinquishment under the mining code. It was the waiver itself.

Therefore, how exactly that waiver came to be is extremely pertinent to what surviving legal effect it has imo

AVZ’s comments as to what was happening with the north in the May 4th 2022 Ministerial Decree announcement was the first document available to the mushrooms that shed light on this matter. You know, the one when they also dropped the goss about Zijin and Dathomir for the first time but we still traded for 3 days after that news hit the market until the weekend when Nigel resigned from AJN’s board and it was only then that we went into suspension. Management says very clearly in that official announcement that the non good powder mica infested north is to be ‘renewed’ by Dathcom under a PR.

There is no mention of anything resembling ‘AVZ has the digital scan copy of document where the "properties" of software file shows "creation date" & "modified date" and the box is "not checked". This forensic analysis is to authenticate document is tamper proof for ICSID’ or of death threats against Balthazar because neither of those things ever happened otherwise AVZ failed to disclose them to shareholders in the announcement and bizarrely played along with this purported illegal behaviour by talking of a renewal.

The mining code is extremely clear as to what happens when a waiver is submitted. The relinquished area is meant to go back to the state and a new tender process begins for it. That is why AJN applied. Now clearly the DRC government haven’t followed the mining code at pretty much every stage of this process and have subsequently gone on to completely make up whatever they want so I am in no way suggesting that they are innocent in this matter but the legal effect of the waiver still remains.

Nigel’s letter to the MoM appealing the rescinding of the two original decrees by the two new decrees (note the plurals) that acts as the basis for our entire case at the ICSID under the mining code also makes no mention of skulduggery and argues that the granted split must still be enforced as part of the ‘survival of Dathcom’s acquired rights’. Although AVZ has since changed their tune on this matter in official announcements after ‘taking advice’ to reflect your current argument about the decree legally returning (because it was relinquished lol) the north to Dathcom and the company currently being an applicant for the entirety of PE13559. Which I agree with for the effect of the decrees but once again for the haters, it wasn’t the MoM’s decree that was the basis for the relinquishment under the mining code, it was the waiver.

So, if the waiver wasn’t photoshopped or done under duress then it was submitted by free will by Dathcom under the false pretence of the north being automatically given back to Dathcom under a renewal. This guarantee was obviously given by mon ami Mupande as hinted by Nigel at the 2022 AGM when he was asked ‘issue that mines director said we hadn’t done the work on the northern tenement area, and shouldn’t get the north? and he replied ‘That’s not within the mining code. So, 13359 should be retained in its entirety. However, the northern area may need to come under a separate exploration tenement, even though that’s not the established process’. But what AVZ likely verbally agreed to is extremely different to what the legal effect of submitting a waiver is under the mining code.

Also, there is no mention at all in decree 00032 (not 00031 you have them the wrong way around) about ‘unrealised promises and false pretence’. The reasoning given in 00032 was ‘the appeal of Cominiere in its letter referenced December 7 AND that the partial waiver of 13359 by the company Dathcom (HINT HINT) was made in defiance of the opinion of the minority shareholders of this company and causes continuing tensions between them’.

Now normally I would provide all of the documents supporting my case but I’ve already posted them on this forum numerous times. Perhaps someone can cOpY aNd PaStE them from one of the literally hundreds of posts I have done here where I explain the various issues faced by AVZ in my own words often times before the company decided to change its mates club policy to disclosure and inform its shareholders regarding contentious matters lmfao

The main reason I have been so brash in this assessment about the north is because I want someone to prove me wrong. There have been numerous times I have been wrong and unlike others around here I will always put my hand up and admit it if it is proven using source documents and legislation. The defining rebuttal of this argument if it exists could be used to rub the noses of AVZ’s adversaries in the fact they have no claims to the north and I personally think that would be really handy to have if available to post on the key decision makers social media accounts rather than aggressively pushing, without evidence, deranged conspiracy theories that contradict each other as well as reality.

Because I have tried to prove their claims about the north wrong myself. But unfortunately, the only conclusion that can be deduced from documents available to the public imo is that, and it absolutely pains me to say it because he is a corrupt scumbag, Jabba the Hutette's sugar daddy is absolutely correct with what he says regarding the north in the following tweets.

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