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AVZ Discussion 2022
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Xerof
Have a Cigar 1975
Shouldn’t happen. I have a couple of others that are still on HC, one a disputed TO but delisted, and a receivership/administration
You can tell I’m a great stock picker
Frank
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Pan American sells La Arena gold project in Peru to Zijin for $295 million
Pan American Silver said on Wednesday it has agreed to sell its 100% interest in the La Arena gold property in Peru to Jinteng Mining in Singapore, a subsidiary of China’s Zijin Mining Group.
Total consideration consists of $245 million cash upfront and a $50 million contingent payment.
The transaction is expected to close in the third quarter of 2024.
The La Arena property is located in the La Libertad province of Peru. It comprises the La Arena gold mine and the La Arena II project, which is in advanced exploration.
The open-pit mine has been in operation since 2011.
Since acquiring the mine from Tahoe Resources in 2019, Pan American said it has added 535,521 oz. of gold through exploration and extended the mine life from 2021 to 2026, with the potential for further extension.
Under the terms of the deal, Zijin will grant Pan American a life-of-mine gold net smelter return royalty of 1.5% on the La Arena II project.
mining.com
* So these Slimy Fuckers at Zinjin can find plenty of Ca$h to Buy a Mine in Peru, but they'd prefer to Steal a Mine in Manono
Why is that
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Winenut
Go AVZ!
I've got an old, old coal play in Canada where the fucking Alberta government decided to just repeal the legislation and effectively ban mining on the tenement.
Thanks very fucking much
Delisted on the ASX due to lack of reasonable activity and operations and still shambling along with litigation against the Alberta Government
Clearly I pick some absolute corkers too.....
Ashlee
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I had/still have shares in Comet CRL they were delisted and removed from the Crapper at the same time.
My last delisting was IsignThis (ISX) when they voluntary delisted in October 2022.Great to see Ty getting hammered on X by AVZ shareholders who can’t get a response to their questions.
A lot of criticism about Nigel….he may have done some things differently but there is no doubt he wants success for AVZ.
There wouldn’t be too many men who would be still standing from the bullshit Nigel has had to deal with…he is definitely a battle scarred soldier with more experience in the game now then any other candidate.
Like all of us I hope the DRC is taking the international court rulings serious and want to make a quick deal with AVZ to put an end to it.
I can still see the light!
A lot of criticism about Nigel….he may have done some things differently but there is no doubt he wants success for AVZ.
There wouldn’t be too many men who would be still standing from the bullshit Nigel has had to deal with…he is definitely a battle scarred soldier with more experience in the game now then any other candidate.
Like all of us I hope the DRC is taking the international court rulings serious and want to make a quick deal with AVZ to put an end to it.
I can still see the light!
Carlos Danger
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So, you agree with me that Dathcom did in fact relinquish the north enacted by the first MoM decree and that this event was based on the waiver. Otherwise, the new decree could not have nullified said relinquishment. The key thing to remember is that it wasn’t the original decree that gave the legal basis for the relinquishment under the mining code. It was the waiver itself.
Therefore, how exactly that waiver came to be is extremely pertinent to what surviving legal effect it has imo
AVZ’s comments as to what was happening with the north in the May 4th 2022 Ministerial Decree announcement was the first document available to the mushrooms that shed light on this matter. You know, the one when they also dropped the goss about Zijin and Dathomir for the first time but we still traded for 3 days after that news hit the market until the weekend when Nigel resigned from AJN’s board and it was only then that we went into suspension. Management says very clearly in that official announcement that the non good powder mica infested north is to be ‘renewed’ by Dathcom under a PR.
There is no mention of anything resembling ‘AVZ has the digital scan copy of document where the "properties" of software file shows "creation date" & "modified date" and the box is "not checked". This forensic analysis is to authenticate document is tamper proof for ICSID’ or of death threats against Balthazar because neither of those things ever happened otherwise AVZ failed to disclose them to shareholders in the announcement and bizarrely played along with this purported illegal behaviour by talking of a renewal.
The mining code is extremely clear as to what happens when a waiver is submitted. The relinquished area is meant to go back to the state and a new tender process begins for it. That is why AJN applied. Now clearly the DRC government haven’t followed the mining code at pretty much every stage of this process and have subsequently gone on to completely make up whatever they want so I am in no way suggesting that they are innocent in this matter but the legal effect of the waiver still remains.
Nigel’s letter to the MoM appealing the rescinding of the two original decrees by the two new decrees (note the plurals) that acts as the basis for our entire case at the ICSID under the mining code also makes no mention of skulduggery and argues that the granted split must still be enforced as part of the ‘survival of Dathcom’s acquired rights’. Although AVZ has since changed their tune on this matter in official announcements after ‘taking advice’ to reflect your current argument about the decree legally returning (because it was relinquished lol) the north to Dathcom and the company currently being an applicant for the entirety of PE13559. Which I agree with for the effect of the decrees but once again for the haters, it wasn’t the MoM’s decree that was the basis for the relinquishment under the mining code, it was the waiver.
So, if the waiver wasn’t photoshopped or done under duress then it was submitted by free will by Dathcom under the false pretence of the north being automatically given back to Dathcom under a renewal. This guarantee was obviously given by mon ami Mupande as hinted by Nigel at the 2022 AGM when he was asked ‘issue that mines director said we hadn’t done the work on the northern tenement area, and shouldn’t get the north? and he replied ‘That’s not within the mining code. So, 13359 should be retained in its entirety. However, the northern area may need to come under a separate exploration tenement, even though that’s not the established process’. But what AVZ likely verbally agreed to is extremely different to what the legal effect of submitting a waiver is under the mining code.
Also, there is no mention at all in decree 00032 (not 00031 you have them the wrong way around) about ‘unrealised promises and false pretence’. The reasoning given in 00032 was ‘the appeal of Cominiere in its letter referenced December 7 AND that the partial waiver of 13359 by the company Dathcom (HINT HINT) was made in defiance of the opinion of the minority shareholders of this company and causes continuing tensions between them’.
Now normally I would provide all of the documents supporting my case but I’ve already posted them on this forum numerous times. Perhaps someone can cOpY aNd PaStE them from one of the literally hundreds of posts I have done here where I explain the various issues faced by AVZ in my own words often times before the company decided to change its mates club policy to disclosure and inform its shareholders regarding contentious matters lmfao
The main reason I have been so brash in this assessment about the north is because I want someone to prove me wrong. There have been numerous times I have been wrong and unlike others around here I will always put my hand up and admit it if it is proven using source documents and legislation. The defining rebuttal of this argument if it exists could be used to rub the noses of AVZ’s adversaries in the fact they have no claims to the north and I personally think that would be really handy to have if available to post on the key decision makers social media accounts rather than aggressively pushing, without evidence, deranged conspiracy theories that contradict each other as well as reality.
Because I have tried to prove their claims about the north wrong myself. But unfortunately, the only conclusion that can be deduced from documents available to the public imo is that, and it absolutely pains me to say it because he is a corrupt scumbag, Jabba the Hutette's sugar daddy is absolutely correct with what he says regarding the north in the following tweets.
Carlos Danger
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Yeah, sometimes things can take a while to be absorbed. Kind of like when I said that the MoM’s decree in October 2023 granting 15775 to Manono Lithium after obtaining the new north split from Cominiere was real while you were busy banging on about it being photoshopped only for AVZ to subsequently release numerous announcements confirming I was correct and that you were in fact deluluafter all this time ; your post @Xerof still won’t be absorbed by some.
The relinquished part isn't even the same as the northern tenement that Z has illegally gotten, so for any comments that say "ceding the north lead to Z getting the north", that's not even the same concept in the eyes of the law
obe wan
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Hey Carlos you must have stopped hyperventilating have you, took a bit of time after Xerof post to calm tf down before gathering your rigid study notes and sifting through historical posts to try and find where someone didn’t get something right ; I’ve said it before ( a couple of times actually ) you so remind me of a certain multi nicker who absolutely flys off the handle when someone opposes a view , spits , cries, erupts and will dive back through months / years of posts to drag stuff up …ye that one has a serious upstairs disorder… anywayYeah, sometimes things can take a while to be absorbed. Kind of like when I said that the MoM’s decree in October 2023 granting 15775 to Manono Lithium after obtaining the new north split from Cominiere was real while you were busy banging on about it being photoshopped only for AVZ to subsequently release numerous announcements confirming I was correct and that you were in fact delulu
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if you ask anyone that's actually looked a bit deeper or chatted to someone in company channels ; they’d tell you that the ratio of Fake to genuine documents , which have been popping up on the DRC actors channel was / is extremely high and were even presented to very high levels of autority in their fake form … ye ye , I’m sorry if I didn’t phone a friend or play 50/50 in ‘name the fake’ that night
… but of course all the docs you read are bang on accurate ( I’d say 20% of what you’ve read during this shits show have been b/s but you’ll swallow it in any case and force feed it to others to...Must be hard , playing the character of a very successful 30 year old millionaire who owns his own properties blah blah ( buts on TSE 24/7… unless hyperventilating) ,…..Reads every doc / script and drills it into everyone head that it’s real because ‘what’s on the paper is proof’. you can’t handle opposing views , logic gets a back seat.
Go suck a lollipop sweetheart x , but keep droning out the same old story over and over convincing yourself you’re right and bulletproof … hard to shake that disorder
No doubt you’ll be lit after your response posts and looking to engage and regurgitate your tumble drier , around and around you go, bulletproof Northern area factual .. embedded story … well don’t bother , I’ve better things to be doing with my time , maybe play a game of ‘why the Carres of the related decrees & Zijins North, don’t match’ … and why decrees and contracts for those shaped shifting areas weren’t issued , like they are supposed to in a timely fashion and by particular end dates …surely if it was all handed over correctly by Nigel ; Z would already legally mining the north and have banged out a shed load of contracts for works and product … I suppose the ticked box sheet which you hang onto was 100% correct in every way though
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I also see some light TLH. If you look at the big picture - if we get fully reamed it means China control a very large portion of the global lithium supply. Do the West want to be screwed harder by China?
It is all up to Tshekidi, does he renege on his back door deals with the Chinese or not. Simple!
So the million dollar question people seem to avoid with a TO.
The likelihood of a TO will come from China which many would agree given the DRC shit show and the China mantra of brown paper bags.
If that happens the west is screwed too?
Can't really have it both ways where "the west doesn't want China to have this" but yet the TO is likely to come from China.
Azzler
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Holy shit Obe, lol.Hey Carlos you must have stopped hyperventilating have you, took a bit of time after Xerof post to calm tf down before gathering your rigid study notes and sifting through historical posts to try and find where someone didn’t get something right ; I’ve said it before ( a couple of times actually ) you so remind me of a certain multi nicker who absolutely flys off the handle when someone opposes a view , spits , cries, erupts and will dive back through months / years of posts to drag stuff up …ye that one has a serious upstairs disorder… anyway
if you ask anyone that's actually looked a bit deeper or chatted to someone in company channels ; they’d tell you that the ratio of Fake to genuine documents , which have been popping up on the DRC actors channel was / is extremely high and were even presented to very high levels of autority in their fake form … ye ye , I’m sorry if I didn’t phone a friend or play 50/50 in ‘name the fake’ that night
Must be hard , playing the character of a very successful 30 year old millionaire who owns his own properties blah blah ( buts on TSE 24/7… unless hyperventilating) ,…..Reads every doc / script and drills it into everyone head that it’s real because ‘what’s on the paper is proof’. you can’t handle opposing views , logic gets a back seat.
Go suck a lollipop sweetheart x , but keep droning out the same old story over and over convincing yourself you’re right and bulletproof … hard to shake that disorder
No doubt you’ll be lit after your response posts and looking to engage and regurgitate your tumble drier , around and around you go, bulletproof Northern area factual .. embedded story … well don’t bother , I’ve better things to be doing with my time , maybe play a game of ‘why the Carres of the related decrees & Zijins North, don’t match’ … and why decrees and contracts for those shaped shifting areas weren’t issued , like they are supposed to in a timely fashion and by particular end dates …surely if it was all handed over correctly by Nigel ; Z would already legally mining the north and have banged out a shed load of contracts for works and product … I suppose the ticked box sheet which you hang onto was 100% correct in every way though
It's all a bit much really, as is this whole affair overly complicated.
Forgive me but what relevance is the thrashing about on this subject for anyway?
Hypotheticaly, if Nige did reliquish the north to bargain for the ML..... so what?
What are the detractors trying to say? if it were true?
Are they really trying to claim that Nige should have gotten SH permission first?
What am I missing that they think if they can show if Nige did give up the north, it means they can throw him out?
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