AVZ Discussion 2022

[Carlos Danger]

Isn't the ICC case currently at hand between Jin Cheng and AVZI?

Zijin did not actually bring this case to arbitration.......Jin Cheng did

And isn't that specifically the crux of the jurisdictional arguement from AVZI to get it thrown out?

ie That Jin Cheng cannot bring this case to arbitration as it is NOT a partner in the Dathcom JV

If AVZI gets the result it hopes for and thinks it should all that happens here is Jin Cheng is told by the ICC "Sorry guys fuck off....this has nothing to do with you as you are not part of the Dathcom JV".......NEXT!

Or am I missing something?....

you are correct - i just use ZJ because its easier than Jin Cheng... they are the same.

ie That Jin Cheng cannot bring this case to arbitration as it is NOT a partner in the Dathcom JV - while this is the gist of the issue, there is a subtle difference to remember, we are arguing that the ICC does not have jurisdiction because of the above. Burden of proof in this instance is more on ZJ i think.

"It should be noted that this does not finally determine whether the sale of shares from Cominière to Jin Cheng was effective, which will remain to be determined in separate proceedings". AVZ Minerals .

At what point does Nigel lock in ICSID ? Must be getting very close . They will just continue to f--k us around .

I use Zijin because they are the controlling company. Just like I use AVZ instead of AVZI.

Even though the jurisdictional challenge is a question of Jin Cheng's right to initiate arbitration it is looking at all the key facts of the case eg the IGF report. This was the quickest way for AVZ to eliminate Zijin from the picture legally speaking. If successful we will then just have to deal with Cominiere breaching our pre-emptive right in the case we brought to the ICC against them.

 

[Scoota30]

The AGM was in Perth and the notes are pretty much spot on from my memory of being there.

I am sure @Scoota30 and @tonster66 would agree.

Those notes were bang on from my memory as well, especially the part about the ML isn't contingent on any of the ICC outcomes and that we have been in high level discussions with government and are confident for a speedy result...

 

[tonster66]

The AGM was in Perth and the notes are pretty much spot on from my memory of being there.

I am sure @Scoota30 and @tonster66 would agree.

Yep, agree

 

[Xerof]

So, who attended courtroom 35 on Friday, or was it in chambers?

 

[timb89]

Struggle to comprehend how witnesses can have an impact on the decision? Surely it comes down to following due process and appropriate documentation. Waiting with anticipation for 9card to post chairman's statement if possible as I doubt AVZ would find the time to feed the mushrooms. Interesting week ahead.

Is the chairmans statement secret? Or insider knowledge? Or is this common post arbitration to have it posted?

 

[Charbella]

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Old mate CKK's comments on X (who some believe to be a fake account, but given his antics I think is probably legit) suggests that he did deliver testimony. Looking forward to seeing the outcome, should point the path forward. Glad to hear Zijin showed up, I actually kind of expected they might pull out last minute like I wish I had done with my last girlfriend.
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Surely cannot be a real profile for CKK. The dude has been rambling desperately for the last 2 days.

 

[Charbella]

Is the chairmans statement secret? Or insider knowledge? Or is this common post arbitration to have it posted?

@9cardomaha would love to see the transcript.

 

[kron]

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Surely cannot be a real profile for CKK. The dude has been rambling desperately for the last 2 days.

I think he spoke in the third person recently on a tweet...I was thinking the profile is one of his lackeys/drinking buddies in the infamous clip.

 

[kron]

 

[marksmann007]

Trying to distance himself from all the bullshit posts & lie’s perhaps?
All of a sudden it’s supposedly someone else writing all this shit?
I haven’t seen or read all of cominieres posts on X but the drivel I have read sounded to me like it was Kibeya behind the keyboard and proud of it.
I stand to be corrected.

 

[Roon]

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Surely cannot be a real profile for CKK. The dude has been rambling desperately for the last 2 days.

Did you see his old interview on that TV show, or his efforts on the mike at the recent conference? Rambling desperately is CKK's forte! Reading all his tweets the positions he puts forward are right in line with Cominiere, and has some semi-insider type information on their approach. Possibile that its just a very well researched troll or one of his lackeys, but my belief is that it is our unhinged friend Celestine himself. I guess it might be a good sign that he seems to be falling apart more and more as time goes on.

 

[Coulomb]

Fuck off you pair of stirrers

Hey Bags, we really do love and appreciate all that you have to contribute on here. No intention of stirring the mud. Reasonable to be weary of bad apples on TSE, but the vast majority of us, including me think you're a hero.

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Hey Bags, we really do love and appreciate all that you have to contribute on here. No intention of stirring the mud. Reasonable to be weary of bad apples on TSE, but the vast majority of us, including me think you're a hero.

It’s all good mate, I was just teasing you and @Carlos Danger

It’s a shame we have to be wary of bad apples. I may have been wrong about @Tonyh but we can’t be too careful when we know how desperate and destructive the trolls are, and how they sly in to TSE and try and get information, especially at a time when Cong, Jerkoff, Math and Bin Guo are trying to get their stooges (huljich, carrick and ludbrook) on the BOD and they are teaming up with tommy turd, boatman and other trolls with lies and disinformation.

The only thing I would add is that I don’t see them as ‘bad apples’…. I see them as the lowest form of scum on the Earth

 

[TDITD]

Always good to be able to miss a day or two, come back an read up on all the quality posts and thoughts from you good bastards

#FuckZIJIN

 

[RHyNO]

Where’s the update nige?

 

[Xerof]

Interesting

This all originates from Kiki’s pictorial tweet of corrupt players

Does this signal absolute desperation from Chinese macro interests (if you believe the opinion expressed)

https://x.com/irishlocky/status/1711106253790040343?s=20


Robin Zeng CATH chairman, moving on now to the corrupt acts of people entrusted with following the law and doing the right thing for the people of RDC rather than trying to line their own pockets for greed! That's the biggest mistake here and one that will be punished!

 

[Retrobyte]

Where’s the update nige?

The fact that the bad guys aren't all over social media running a victory lap is the best indicator I think.

 

[Cumquat Cap]

Good point Retro, they would be all over it with inside intel rubbing it in our faces for sure, hopefully that means it went well and Z are out - what's next after that? Main concern for me is Felix reluctance to intervene at all. USeless fucking politicians

 

[Doc]

You know, it would not surprise me in the least if oil&gas/derGeist/whoever the fuck he is today was actually behind the Cominiere handle.
We know he plays both side of the fence and he loves to show off his ‘knowledge’. All a game to him it seems

 

[Azzler]

You know, it would not surprise me in the least if oil&gas/derGeist/whoever the fuck he is today was actually behind the Cominiere handle.
We know he plays both side of the fence and he loves to show off his ‘knowledge’. All a game to him it seems

Here's something interesting I just noticed Oil&Gas blocked me since I last posted here about him being Geist.
I was blocked by Geist a while back, and oddly at the same time, blocked by Lars.
All share a simialar trait including Com, that they always avoid talking about who they actually are.
Oh and it was when I was posting about their identities the blocks happen.