AVZ Discussion 2022

[cruiser51]

Legal action is nothing . Mining minister already cancel everything. Cominiere same . What legal action can do? Another company will come and have it . Different name only but same.

Please go back to school and learn English.

The only good part about your pidgin English is that it has gin in it, the rest just sucks and gives me a headache.

 

[oxxa23]

Legal action is nothing . Mining minister already cancel everything. Cominiere same . What legal action can do? Another company will come and have it . Different name only but same.

i'm not sure i speak on behalf of all shareholders, but, 99.93% of them would be saying "fuck off Juba"

 

[cruiser51]

i'm not sure i speak on behalf of all shareholders, but, 99.93% of them would be saying "fuck off Juba"

I'm still trying to decipher his posts.
I hope Juba doesn't defend Jen Chin for court, it would take fukkin ages.

 

[Remark]

Please go back to school and learn English.

The only good part about your pidgin English is that it has gin in it, the rest just sucks and gives me a headache.

Back to clown school?

Positions are now available.

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[cruiser51]

Back to clown school?

Positions are now available.

Circus School | ITVS

Take a rare look into one of China's most treasured commodities — acrobats. Circus School reveals the rigorous physical training students must endure as they prepare for a national competition. | ITVS

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SERIES Global Voices
PREMIERE DATE March 18, 2008
LENGTH 60 minutes
FUNDING INITIATIVE International

That makes sense!

 

[Hodlandwin69]

Although juba is a cunt, I'm pretty sure world bank won't cut funding. I feel someone just applied that to this case if they are in breach of iscid, but it's a bit far fetched.
Please correct me as I'm more than happy to be wrong but please provide evidence rather than just shilling copium

 

[Azzler]

Legal action is nothing . Mining minister already cancel everything. Cominiere same . What legal action can do? Another company will come and have it . Different name only but same.

What a moron.

 

[Carlos Danger]

Although juba is a cunt, I'm pretty sure world bank won't cut funding. I feel someone just applied that to this case if they are in breach of iscid, but it's a bit far fetched.
Please correct me as I'm more than happy to be wrong but please provide evidence rather than just shilling copium

It wouldn't be the first time the world bank has cut funding to the DRC. It already happened this year. And if you read what I wrote carefully you would realise I never said they would definetely do it. I implied that the threat of cuts and damages should (key word) be enough leverage to make the MoM see the light.

And I provide way too many source documents for the claims I actually make to ever be accused of shilling copium

 

[wombat74]

It wouldn't be the first time the world bank has cut funding to the DRC. It already happened this year. And if you read what I wrote carefully you would realise I never said they would definetely do it. I implied that the threat of cuts and damages should (key word) be enough leverage to make the MoM see the light.

And I provide way too many source documents for the claims I actually make to ever be accused of shilling copium

Lets just hope to f--king Chr1st this does not get as far as ICSID . That will mean we are in suspension until 2025 / 2026 minimum . And what it also means is the DRC gov don't give a rats arse .

 

[Carlos Danger]

Lets just hope to f--king Chr1st this does not get as far as ICSID . That will mean we are in suspension until 2025 / 2026 minimum . And what it also means if the DRC gov don't give a rats arse .

The key case in all this except for the Dathomir 15% is the jurisdictional challenge starting tomorrow. If it is established that Jin Cheng have never been a party of Dathcom then the rest should be a formality for that 15% imo.

But then it would be over to the DRC gov to do the right thing or face the ICSID as the MoM's reasoning for cancelling the PE would not only be unknown to the DRC mining code but also based on claims by a party of Dathcom that participated in corruption.

AVZ have followed the mining code. If the DRC don't like it they should have written the code differently. This shit is more insane than Lord's members whingeing about the rules of cricket.

 

[Samus]

Legal action is nothing . Mining minister already cancel everything. Cominiere same . What legal action can do? Another company will come and have it . Different name only but same.

 

[Carlos Danger]

Can you please show where I can find the information about the cut of fundings?

Only thing I find in relation:

„At least there is theoretically the possibility for the World Bank to refuse new loans to a state. As far as can be seen, the World Bank has never made use of this theoretical possibility in connection with the ICSID.“

And when I look at mexico….feels like 30+ open cases but still getting money.

Because would be the perfect pressure method if they would really loose fundings because of the case. If the drc loose I doubt they will pay billions back, but if they would it would take many many decades

The cut of fundings this year was in relation to social programs and was caused by concerns about governance in the DRC after Felix terminated the programs the funds were intended for by presidential order. It wasn't to do with the ICSID. But that doesn't mean it can't happen like you say and the threat of that and other projects like the Lobito corridor not being funded should persuade the DRC to do the right thing imo

Or maybe the gringos are planning on getting more bang for their buck so to speak by turning a blind eye to hastily organised elections, however contentious, like the Washington insiders were saying in that article you shared on the weekend

Or maybe not. And we will have to spend years trying to reclaim any damages we are awarded. If the DRC government doesn't want to do the right thing and we only have a low ball Zijin offer currently on the table then we have no other choice. Like I said I expect Zijin to bring out the cheque book and make a better offer if they lose the jurisdictional challenge.

 

[Hodlandwin69]

The cut of fundings this year was in relation to social programs and was caused by concerns about governance in the DRC after Felix terminated the programs the funds were intended for by presidential order. It wasn't to do with the ICSID. But that doesn't mean it can't happen like you say and the threat of that and other projects like the Lobito corridor not being funded should persuade the DRC to do the right thing imo

Or maybe the gringos are planning on getting more bang for their buck so to speak by turning a blind eye to hastily organised elections, however contentious, like the Washington insiders were saying in that article you shared on the weekend

Or maybe not. And we will have to spend years trying to reclaim any damages we are awarded. If the DRC government doesn't want to do the right thing and we only have a low ball Zijin offer currently on the table then we have no other choice. Like I said I expect Zijin to bring out the cheque book and make a better offer if they lose the jurisdictional challenge.

Anyway, I wonder if Nige will make the trip from DRC to Paris, or if he'll just stay in DRC...

 

[Carlos Danger]

Anyway, I wonder if Nige will make the trip from DRC to Paris, or if he'll just stay in DRC...

Wouldn't he need to go to the DRC first?

 

[Hodlandwin69]

Wouldn't he need to go to the DRC first?

Yeh, Intel is he's there brah

 

[Hodlandwin69]

Yeh, Intel is he's there brah

Well was, unknown whereabouts the last couple days

 

[wombat74]

The key case in all this except for the Dathomir 15% is the jurisdictional challenge starting tomorrow. If it is established that Jin Cheng have never been a party of Dathcom then the rest should be a formality for that 15% imo.

But then it would be over to the DRC gov to do the right thing or face the ICSID as the MoM's reasoning for cancelling the PE would not only be unknown to the DRC mining code but also based on claims by a party of Dathcom that participated in corruption.

AVZ have followed the mining code. If the DRC don't like it they should have written the code differently. This shit is more insane than Lord's members whingeing about the rules of cricket.

Agree , and that was my point also . The courts can decide but it's still up to the DRC gov to implement . We are going to find that out in the very near future .

 

[wombat74]

Wouldn't he need to go to the DRC first?

Isn't he in the DRC???

 

[cruiser51]

Although juba is a cunt, I'm pretty sure world bank won't cut funding. I feel someone just applied that to this case if they are in breach of iscid, but it's a bit far fetched.
Please correct me as I'm more than happy to be wrong but please provide evidence rather than just shilling copium

Juba is still trying to work out what you said, he dropped his translator after the first few words. double fukkin

 

[Carlos Danger]

Well was, unknown whereabouts the last couple days

Isn't he in the DRC???

I have no idea. I'm not part of any inside lines of information and never have been. I've also never spoken to anyone at AVZ or otherwise involved with Manono.

Everything I post is based off public information (including stuff unearthed on forums and social media). I like to keep it this way so I don't get swayed by rumours.

Hopefully Nigel is there. He wasn't at the DRC battery conference a few weeks ago judging by photos available.