AVZ Discussion 2022

Beetleb

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I'm waiting for the 5th and 6th - I am thinking we will have a fair indication after this proceeding whether we should be confident about going mining or an continued up hill slog. Can we expect a decision on the 6th or will need to wait for a deecision? Can't wait for this to be over - with a positive outcome.
 
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Winenut

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I'm waiting for the 5th and 6th - I am thinking we will have a fair indication after this proceeding whether we should be confident about going mining or an continued up hill slog. Can we expect a decision on the 6th or will need to wait for a deecision? Can't wait for this to be over - with a positive outcome.
What are you hoping for on the 5th and 6th?

Do you have some intel?
 
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I'm waiting for the 5th and 6th - I am thinking we will have a fair indication after this proceeding whether we should be confident about going mining or an continued up hill slog. Can we expect a decision on the 6th or will need to wait for a deecision? Can't wait for this to be over - with a positive outcome.
What are you hoping for on the 5th and 6th?

Do you have some intel?
Not sure when the decision will be known but we will probably hear whispers about how it went by the weekend. Franck Fwamba is usually all over these events.

From the announcement last week:
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CHB

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Surely everyone is excited to have a court case finally fucking happen.

In my mind it's already delayed again lol
 
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wombat74

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Not sure when the decision will be known but we will probably hear whispers about how it went by the weekend. Franck Fwamba is usually all over these events.

From the announcement last week:
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Being a time wasting exercise on Zijin's part , how long will the official verdict take ? Can they appeal ? They will be shooting for an 11 hour delay . We can be sure of that .
 
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Beetleb

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What are you hoping for on the 5th and 6th?

Do you have some intel?
No I know nothing, just going off the last announcement. I'm just hoping for the best like all of us.
 
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Winenut

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No I know nothing, just going off the last announcement. I'm just hoping for the best like all of us.

Oh.......


Okay.....



Good luck then...............
 
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Winenut

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https://x.com/MinMinesRDC/status/1707130406456193160?s=20


Translated from French by
#RDC_MINES 09/21/2023 | VIRTUAL PARTICIPATION OF THE MINISTER OF MINES ANTOINETTE N'SAMBA KALAMBAYI IN THE OECD PANEL TO ANSWER CERTAIN QUESTIONS ON CRITICAL MINERALS. The Minister of Mines
@anskalambayi
, participated on Thursday, September 21, 2023, in a high-level panel of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), by videoconference to answer a range of questions on minerals criticism in the mining sector in the Democratic Republic of Congo. This is with the aim of raising the voices of African countries in the run-up to the summit being organized on minerals and clean energy of the International Energy Agency, IEA, scheduled for September 28 2023 in Paris. In doing so, responding to the question of the natural resources available to the DRC and how this country intends to use them, the Minister of Mines of the DRC affirmed that her country is rich and has various natural resources, particularly gold. , diamond, copper; cobalt, lithium and many others, some of which are currently being exploited and others in the research phase depending on the data collected. To this end, with the exploitation of all these minerals, the DRC, part of the logic of development of value chains, aims to export semi-finished manufactured products such as battery precursors and finished products such as telephone batteries. , computer and electric vehicles. Regarding cooperation between the DRC and Zambia on the joint manufacturing of electric vehicles and batteries with funding from the United States, the head of Mines said that the DRC and Zambia share the same copper belt and face the same challenges. . To reap more benefits, the 2 countries could only pool resources, capacities and efforts in order to achieve common objectives. To achieve these objectives, it was decided to create the special economic zone with its corollary tax advantages. To all this, the saving initiative of setting up a center of excellence for battery research and development which crowns this ambition for fruitful cooperation. The concern about the management of the harmful effects of mining extraction to protect the population and the environment, the Minister of Mines
@anskalambayi
was clear, she fixed the opinion regarding the legislation in force which obliges the development of impact studies of mining activities on the environment. Continuing its intervention on the question of the DRC's actions in the face of deforestation and the loss of biodiversity caused by the extraction of green minerals, the Congolese Mines Authority revealed that the DRC has taken appropriate measures for the protection of the environment and communities living in the territory where mining projects exist, in particular, mitigation and rehabilitation plans as well as financial security. To close the loop, the Patron of Mines, on behalf of the DRC, affirmed, I quote: “We are aware of the problem of global warming and its consequences on our lives, the DRC with the help of its mineral resources green, wants to work with all investors, and wants an operating partnership that is win-win, this is how we will end the zero-sum partnership,” end of quote.
 
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oxxa23

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Well what the fuck does that all mean?

Interesting.....
yeah, not exactly sure..... she had clarified (well kind of) the earlier rights taken away from the companies... see below..


https://mines.cd/rdc-antoinette-nsa...its-dexploitation-de-29-entreprises-minieres/


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DRC: Antoinette N'samba denies accusations of alleged cancellation of the exploitation rights of 29 mining companies​

https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php...its-dexploitation-de-29-entreprises-minieres/
The Minister of Mines, Antoinette N'samba Kalambayi provided an update on an article from the French media Jeune Afrique, on the forfeiture of the operating rights of certain mining companies working in the Democratic Republic of Congo, for which according to the boss of the mines, “contains untruths”.
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Mining companies accused of disregarding the rules of the legal systemLuinyx
This clarification was made in a press release signed Friday September 15, a copy of which reached the editorial staff of MINES.CD this Monday September 18.
According to the Minister of Mines, the assertion that, “on July 31, 2023, an order was signed by Michel Kibonge Nyekuma, his chief of staff, canceled the exploitation rights of 29 companies on deposits in DRC” is “devoid” of logic and meaning. To this end, she specifies, the cabinet director “does not sign an order”.
“The author should have informed himself about the ABCs of Congolese public law before holding his pen. Rather, it is 61 orders signed by the Minister of Mines that I am; secondly, it was not a question of canceling the mining rights. Rather, the holders were stripped of their rights to these permits for legal reasons. Forfeiture does not affect the validity of a mining right when the forfeited holder has filed an appeal. “, she continued.
Jeune Afrique had also affirmed that “the Congolese State has not formally justified the reasons for this decision”, therefore Antoinette N'samba Kalambayi recalled the reasons for this forfeiture of mining rights.
“This assertion sufficiently demonstrates that the author of the article did not have access to the criticized decisions: the orders were indeed justified, the forfeiture was based on the failure to draw up the responsibility specifications societal,” recalled the minister.
However, the Congolese government sees in all the “caricatural” comments a desire to tarnish the image of the country's mining sector for reasons that “only the author of this article knows”.

Mining companies accused of disregarding the rules of the legal system

According to the mining boss, certain mining companies operating in the Democratic Republic of Congo have “no concern for the environment or the local communities” impacted by their mining projects, notwithstanding the legal system governing the mining sector in the country. .
“For example, there have been several reports of loss of life at the Boss Mining site,” she said, while asserting that everyone is aware that companies are today evaluated on the basis of ESG reviews, with regard to taking into account sustainable development and long-term issues in the strategy of economic players.
The Government of the Republic, she insisted, had no other choice than to activate legal mechanisms to force mining operators to comply with environmental and social requirements, in the face of environmental damage and recurring social disasters.

Luinyx

 
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Xerof

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Well what the fuck does that all mean?

Interesting.....
It means we can expect the ML to be issued.
yeah, not exactly sure..... she had clarified (well kind of) the earlier rights taken away from the companies... see below..


https://mines.cd/rdc-antoinette-nsa...its-dexploitation-de-29-entreprises-minieres/


IN THE FEATURES

DRC: Antoinette N'samba denies accusations of alleged cancellation of the exploitation rights of 29 mining companies​

https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=https://mines.cd/rdc-antoinette-nsamba-dement-les-accusations-dune-pretendue-annulation-des-droits-dexploitation-de-29-entreprises-minieres/
The Minister of Mines, Antoinette N'samba Kalambayi provided an update on an article from the French media Jeune Afrique, on the forfeiture of the operating rights of certain mining companies working in the Democratic Republic of Congo, for which according to the boss of the mines, “contains untruths”.
Happy
Mining companies accused of disregarding the rules of the legal systemLuinyx
This clarification was made in a press release signed Friday September 15, a copy of which reached the editorial staff of MINES.CD this Monday September 18.
According to the Minister of Mines, the assertion that, “on July 31, 2023, an order was signed by Michel Kibonge Nyekuma, his chief of staff, canceled the exploitation rights of 29 companies on deposits in DRC” is “devoid” of logic and meaning. To this end, she specifies, the cabinet director “does not sign an order”.
“The author should have informed himself about the ABCs of Congolese public law before holding his pen. Rather, it is 61 orders signed by the Minister of Mines that I am; secondly, it was not a question of canceling the mining rights. Rather, the holders were stripped of their rights to these permits for legal reasons. Forfeiture does not affect the validity of a mining right when the forfeited holder has filed an appeal. “, she continued.
Jeune Afrique had also affirmed that “the Congolese State has not formally justified the reasons for this decision”, therefore Antoinette N'samba Kalambayi recalled the reasons for this forfeiture of mining rights.
“This assertion sufficiently demonstrates that the author of the article did not have access to the criticized decisions: the orders were indeed justified, the forfeiture was based on the failure to draw up the responsibility specifications societal,” recalled the minister.
However, the Congolese government sees in all the “caricatural” comments a desire to tarnish the image of the country's mining sector for reasons that “only the author of this article knows”.

Mining companies accused of disregarding the rules of the legal system

According to the mining boss, certain mining companies operating in the Democratic Republic of Congo have “no concern for the environment or the local communities” impacted by their mining projects, notwithstanding the legal system governing the mining sector in the country. .
“For example, there have been several reports of loss of life at the Boss Mining site,” she said, while asserting that everyone is aware that companies are today evaluated on the basis of ESG reviews, with regard to taking into account sustainable development and long-term issues in the strategy of economic players.
The Government of the Republic, she insisted, had no other choice than to activate legal mechanisms to force mining operators to comply with environmental and social requirements, in the face of environmental damage and recurring social disasters.

Luinyx


lets get real, it has NOTHING to do with AVZ. It has everything to do with 29 OPERATING mines who were not adhering to ESG requirements.

End of story, see oxxa post, thanks mate
 
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Winenut

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lets get real, it has NOTHING to do with AVZ. It has everything to do with 29 OPERATING mines who were not adhering to ESG requirements.

End of story, see oxxa post, thanks mate
On the combined bases of experience and probability I assumed the response from Geo was a load of fucking shite......:rolleyes:
 
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wombat74

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NOT CORRECT. Nothing to do with us, to do with the companies that had their ML taken away from them
Shows she is flexible nonetheless .
 
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wombat74

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she does yoga...
Serge did say we are in Very advanced discussions with the DRC gov . Who would that be with? So who knows . If she can change her mind on other projects maybe she can do the same for AVZ .
 
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Dom1974

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Who thinks Zijin will actually turn up on Thursday? Will they bail last minute or say the whole legal team got struck down with food poisoning the night before and request another delay?
 
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