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Xerof

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From the Sept 27th announcement
"The preliminary question is currently listed for hearing on 5 and 6 October 2023."

Infers anything might happen imo, including getting covid from eating the laboratory bats brains, served as an entree on the China Airways flight
 
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Who thinks Zijin will actually turn up on Thursday? Will they bail last minute or say the whole legal team got struck down with food poisoning the night before and request another delay?
From the Sept 27th announcement
"The preliminary question is currently listed for hearing on 5 and 6 October 2023."

Infers anything might happen imo, including getting covid from eating the laboratory bats brains, served as an entree on the China Airways flight
The ICC has had enough of Zijin's games. Sick bags will be provided if necessary imo
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Penskefile

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Who thinks Zijin will actually turn up on Thursday? Will they bail last minute or say the whole legal team got struck down with food poisoning the night before and request another delay?
Zijin‘s getting some tips from Jamaal Bowman
 

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Presidential 2023: “fraud is planned”, warns Dénis Mukwege before announcing the submission of his candidacy this Tuesday to the CENI

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Denis Mukwege will submit his candidacy this Tuesday, October 3, at the headquarters of the independent national electoral commission.

He made this announcement during his address to the nation in front of his supporters and some political figures.

“The fraud is already planned, we not only need to go and vote, but also ensure that our votes will not be stolen.

The last three electoral cycles must serve as a lesson to us,” he warned.

Very determined, the Nobel Prize winner says he wants to save the Democratic Republic of Congo.

“I am leaving my comfort to save the Congo which is disappearing from the map of Africa.

Our country has become the shame of the interior and the laughing stock of the world.

Our place is on the development podium. To get there, we need work and discipline,” he added.


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Presidential 2023: “fraud is planned”, warns Dénis Mukwege before announcing the submission of his candidacy this Tuesday to the CENI

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Denis Mukwege will submit his candidacy this Tuesday, October 3, at the headquarters of the independent national electoral commission.

He made this announcement during his address to the nation in front of his supporters and some political figures.

“The fraud is already planned, we not only need to go and vote, but also ensure that our votes will not be stolen.

The last three electoral cycles must serve as a lesson to us,” he warned.

Very determined, the Nobel Prize winner says he wants to save the Democratic Republic of Congo.

“I am leaving my comfort to save the Congo which is disappearing from the map of Africa.

Our country has become the shame of the interior and the laughing stock of the world.

Our place is on the development podium. To get there, we need work and discipline,” he added.


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Seems like a good person and candidate. Do you's want FT to win or this dude?
 
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wombat74

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Seems like a good person and candidate. Do you's want FT to win or this dude?
The election will be rigged . The winner already knows who he is . IMO
 
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The election will be rigged . The winner already knows who he is . IMO
Gringos already know too imo


According to insiders in Washington, there is an explanation for this leniency: the US has an agenda. Indeed, the United States is prepared to turn a blind eye to hastily organized elections in the DRC, however contentious, and will fund them no matter what. In return, however, Washington expects Kinshasa to subject the export of raw materials such as cobalt, copper and lithium to China to significantly stricter conditions.
 
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On the combined bases of experience and probability I assumed the response from Geo was a load of fucking shite......:rolleyes:
If that's how you interpret it then you're wrong. We are currently going through a legal process and once that's sorted out in our favour off we go mining.
NOT CORRECT. Nothing to do with us, to do with the companies that had their ML taken away from them
The DRC is lifting its game and is now in the spotlight thanks to the E.U. and the U.S. Simply put we were shafted by bad actors so there days are numbered. The MoM is on the defensive and now has to act. Simple as that.
 
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If that's how you interpret it then you're wrong. We are currently going through a legal process and once that's sorted out in our favour off we go mining.
The DRC is lifting its game and is now in the spotlight thanks to the E.U. and the U.S. Simply put we were shafted by bad actors so there days are numbered. The MoM is on the defensive and now has to act. Simple as that.

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TDITD

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If that's how you interpret it then you're wrong. We are currently going through a legal process and once that's sorted out in our favour off we go mining.
The DRC is lifting its game and is now in the spotlight thanks to the E.U. and the U.S. Simply put we were shafted by bad actors so there days are numbered. The MoM is on the defensive and now has to act. Simple as that.
Yes seen a little bit of MOM being in the news lately backtracking, good chance we are next. On evidence of her behaviour it seems she was not a champion of AVZ, but simply sided with whoever was 'winning', naughty lawyer.

The quiet before the storm at the moment, although I wonder if there is a storm in the offices of the AVZ lawyers with Zijin panicking and trying to come to a deal before ICC?
Zijin couldn't possibly offer what at this stage would be our requirements as they have backed themselves so strongly into their little corner with Comineire and Dathomir.:unsure:

Looking forward to hearing from Franck hopefully around 6th on what's been happening in the courtroom. Will the ICC revelations be a catalyst for the DRC to finally take action? Or will they ignore again like the IGF? How much evidence is enough?

Should be a good few weeks.
 
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If that's how you interpret it then you're wrong. We are currently going through a legal process and once that's sorted out in our favour off we go mining.
The DRC is lifting its game and is now in the spotlight thanks to the E.U. and the U.S. Simply put we were shafted by bad actors so there days are numbered. The MoM is on the defensive and now has to act. Simple as that.
Yes seen a little bit of MOM being in the news lately backtracking, good chance we are next. On evidence of her behaviour it seems she was not a champion of AVZ, but simply sided with whoever was 'winning', naughty lawyer.

The quiet before the storm at the moment, although I wonder if there is a storm in the offices of the AVZ lawyers with Zijin panicking and trying to come to a deal before ICC?
Zijin couldn't possibly offer what at this stage would be our requirements as they have backed themselves so strongly into their little corner with Comineire and Dathomir.:unsure:

Looking forward to hearing from Franck hopefully around 6th on what's been happening in the courtroom. Will the ICC revelations be a catalyst for the DRC to finally take action? Or will they ignore again like the IGF? How much evidence is enough?

Should be a good few weeks.
If we win our cases at the ICC then the MoM's reasoning in the new decrees will be laughed out of the ICSID especially given the IGF report and the fact that conflicts between shareholders is unknown as a reason for cancellation of a PE in the DRC mining code. Let them eat pineapples just won't cut it anymore imo. Given the need and urgency.
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TDITD

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If we win our cases at the ICC then the MoM's reasoning in the new decrees will be laughed out of the ICSID especially given the IGF report and the fact that conflicts between shareholders is unknown as a reason for cancellation of a PE in the DRC mining code. Let them eat pineapples just won't cut it anymore imo. Given the need and urgency.
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Every time I have the misfortune of reading that piece of shit disguised as legitimacy it makes me want to puke, especially that last paragraph. Unbelievable what they have done to AVZ since May 2021.
 
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Cumquat Cap

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Anyone know if Felix or this shitbag MoM has to attend the ICSID and testify? no doubt they'll bail on that like everything else within their pervue
 
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Didn't she break both her legs in an accident!?


 
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Anyone know if Felix or this shitbag MoM has to attend the ICSID and testify? no doubt they'll bail on that like everything else within their pervue
I doubt the ICSID has the power to compel heads of state and their ministers to testify in a civil case. Interestingly the President, Prime Minister and the MoM of the DRC are no longer listed as party representatives in the ICSID case information and have been replaced by lawyers. It would seem their titles being there was simply a stop gap until legal representation could be organised for the respondent which is the DRC state itself despite what trolls might say about us suing the president and his ministers personally.


How it looked in June:

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How it looks now:

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wombat74

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Anyone know if Felix or this shitbag MoM has to attend the ICSID and testify? no doubt they'll bail on that like everything else within their pervue
Just legal representation is my guess . Lets not even go down that route .It will take years . Then where does it go after that ? If something is on offer, does Nigel take a guaranteed outcome for share holders now OR does he roll the dice for an uncertain outcome years from now ? The Cone of Silence days are numbered .
 
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Cumquat Cap

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Agreed, if it's looking like that route, lets sell this bitch and move on - can't wait til the AGM, hope they're held accountable
 
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Misfits

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FROM AMOVATIO ON HC

Agreed Cobber',
I have not posted for a while because the content of most discussions seem to be responding to unfounded comments from trolls and non holders.
I lose track of the conversation point behind the new threads that appear, now that I have many on ignore because they are not offering information of relevance to our cause.
What I am looking forward to is the Agenda being released for the upcoming AGM and what business shareholders may be asked to vote on, before any nominations for the Board are considered.
Could shareholders be asked to consider a TO offer ($Price per share). We can only hope more information comes to the surface later this week before/after the ICC Tribunal. I still think the only outcome for Zijin to be involved is to put forward an attractive take over offer to end this saga. China is looking to have almost full control the Lithium market in the world (if it doesn't already) and that of Rare Earth minerals. Getting hold of the biggest and highest grade deposits in the the DRC will advance that cause to the extent they can also extend their monopoly by building more Processing and refining facilities. So Zijin, stop messing around and come up with a good price that will put an end to this saga. The alternative will be to have your brand shamed on the International stage and that of Cominiere and DRC officials.
The corruption that exists within the DRC will never go away in the short term and there will still be many within Govt. looking for brown paper bags to disrupt AVZ from being able to go Mining despite our persistence in following the DRC mining code. We will never get to mine Manono without disruptions.
Lets hope one of the items of business for the AGM is to vote on a TO price per share. As shareholders we then get to decide.
 
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