AVZ Discussion 2022

[Azzler]

Moneybhags is correct on AVZ discussion should be left to AVZ matters alone. Here is Moneybhags setting up a thread for offtopic lovers on TSE:
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NO
WRONG!
You're wrong.

 

[JNRB]

I live in Europe so am out of sync with most of the posters on here. This morning I opened the AVZ thread and saw there was like 4 pages of messages to catch up on. "Wow!" I thought, "that's more than usual, maybe something has actually my happened!" .... . . .

...NOPE! Just 4 pages of people mostly bitchin at each other. As for Der Geist - maybe he makes some valid points but if a full quarter of the posts are from 1 person then to me that's just spam and they clearly can't formulate a proper idea or aren't trying to. For those that think he's a troll, well do what Zeebot said, report the post and then stop engaging.

Aside from just generally having a good forum, the positive contributions and discussions here help us all get through the ability situation we find ourselves in. A little vent every now and then is one thing but don't let a few sour interlopers poison the well.

 

[TDITD]

Stop twisting MB's post and using it

Those that have been here a long time know what lead to the creation of the off topic dedicated thread

It wasn't the fact that posts were "off-topic" it was that the balance at that point had got a bit skewed

So quit with using Moneybag's post for some sort of evidenciary purpose to further your own agenda

The absolute BS a few undermining and spiritless posters have brought to this thread in the last few weeks has created more disharmony and irrelevant Hot Crapperish posts than I have seen in my whole time here

 

[John25]

Well well well …got moderated & threatened with being banned for mentioning the thinned skinned nut bros fuck off to a twosome thread somewhere …sorry this place has turned to shit with these HC type trolls

 

[DoubleA]

Interview with Frank's brother, Franck.
Translation is available, switch on undertitles and translate.

Summary of points discussed:

Americans respected human rights and paid more. Social benefits now decreased under the Chinese.

Discussions on cobalt/Kabila - Chinese are in politics. Chinese come to countries to take resources. They are dishonest. Massive human rights violations.

DRC weak in enforcing legislation. Manipulated by Chinese. Shared responsibility. Responsibility shared with foreigners.

Manono - documentary - people want AVZ/Australians due to paying higher wages and better conditions

Chinese are cheating the Congolese for 50kg of Concentrate they declare 15kg. Say it is wet/contains water etc, congolese see it is concentrate but don't object

Illegal presence of Chinese and foreigners.

Chinese do not operate the mines in line with international conditions/wages, they come to take the minerals, they exploit and pollute. Chinese destroy the environment, they speak chinese.

Chinese already control 70% plus of resources.

Chinese do not provide hospitals and education. Should come from mining sales.

Dathcom Feasibility study has plans for providing electricity with Australians operating in manono, provide water and health centres. These are planned in the model.

DRC need to diversify away from China

With the west, if they do not respect standards, DRC know how to hit them in their public opinion. Whereas with China who can they complain to? No one.

Chinese public policy is just to go and take/steal as much as possible

Australians - if they hurt us we sue them in the stock market or in the courts

 

[Doc]

Dreddb0t: I am the law. Your post has been moderated, and you've been warned. Read the rules again and be vigilant - any further transgressions will lead to an automatic ban. Remember, ignorance is not an excuse.

Reason: The post content is encouraging others to report a user's posts and aliases, which can be seen as a form of trolling or baiting. This behavior is not allowed on the forum and can create a negative environment for other users.


Noooooo we wouldn’t want to create a negative environment. Funniest shit I’ve read all day

 

[Doc]

Good morning.

I have just started a thread “AVZ discussion 2023”
And I will post the good stuff in here to there.

Others please help by joining TSE thread “AVZ discussion 2023” - it will take some

@zeeb0t please note that due to some posters unwilling to follow TSE rules by being on topic, I’ve decided to add a thread called “AVZ discussion 2023”. That way for those who do not want the threads cluttered with personal socials of others but just want AVZ matters discussed can do so without annoyance.


Hopefully a new start

Can you please stay in that thread then?
Not sure who you are telling people what to do…..again!

 

[Hudnut]

Well well well …got moderated & threatened with being banned for mentioning the thinned skinned nut bros fuck off to a twosome thread somewhere …sorry this place has turned to shit with these HC type trolls
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I didn't report ya.
Nice to know what you think of me though.
Here I was thinking you were a decent bloke.

 

[Doc]

Can you please stay in that thread then?
Not sure who you are telling people what to do…..again!

Actually, I’m not sure if you know who you are either…..

 

[cruiser51]

Good morning.

I have just started a thread “AVZ discussion 2023”
And I will post the good stuff in here to there.

Others please help by joining TSE thread “AVZ discussion 2023” - it will take some

@zeeb0t please note that due to some posters unwilling to follow TSE rules by being on topic, I’ve decided to add a thread called “AVZ discussion 2023”. That way for those who do not want the threads cluttered with personal socials of others but just want AVZ matters discussed can do so without annoyance.


Hopefully a new start

Thank God.
I hope your new thread is in outer space.

 

[John25]

Good morning.

I have just started a thread “AVZ discussion 2023”
And I will post the good stuff in here to there.

Others please help by joining TSE thread “AVZ discussion 2023” - it will take some

@zeeb0t please note that due to some posters unwilling to follow TSE rules by being on topic, I’ve decided to add a thread called “AVZ discussion 2023”. That way for those who do not want the threads cluttered with personal socials of others but just want AVZ matters discussed can do so without annoyance.

I didn't report ya.
Nice to know what you think of me though.
Here I was thinking you were a decent bloke.

Not you Hudnut…
DG & JR
Sorry for the mixup

 

[Frank]

 

[Hudnut]

Not you Hudnut…
DG & JR
Sorry for the mixup

No wuckers mate. All good.

 

[Frank]

 

[Winenut]

I didn't report ya.
Nice to know what you think of me though.
Here I was thinking you were a decent bloke.

I didn't report John either

I thought it was funny joke about Hud 'n Wine Nut

If we didn't report the post .....who did??? and for goodness sake why????

 

[Winenut]

Good morning.

I have just started a thread “AVZ discussion 2023”
And I will post the good stuff in here to there.

Others please help by joining TSE thread “AVZ discussion 2023” - it will take some

@zeeb0t please note that due to some posters unwilling to follow TSE rules by being on topic, I’ve decided to add a thread called “AVZ discussion 2023”. That way for those who do not want the threads cluttered with personal socials of others but just want AVZ matters discussed can do so without annoyance.


Hopefully a new start

I'm glad you will posting there from now on

If you show up on the 2022 thread I can now report you for clogging it up

Cheers

 

[JAG]

Good morning.

I have just started a thread “AVZ discussion 2023”
And I will post the good stuff in here to there.

Others please help by joining TSE thread “AVZ discussion 2023” - it will take some

@zeeb0t please note that due to some posters unwilling to follow TSE rules by being on topic, I’ve decided to add a thread called “AVZ discussion 2023”. That way for those who do not want the threads cluttered with personal socials of others but just want AVZ matters discussed can do so without annoyance.


Hopefully a new start

Great, now…..

 

[Winenut]

Summary of points discussed:

Americans respected human rights and paid more. Social benefits now decreased under the Chinese.

Discussions on cobalt/Kabila - Chinese are in politics. Chinese come to countries to take resources. They are dishonest. Massive human rights violations.

DRC weak in enforcing legislation. Manipulated by Chinese. Shared responsibility. Responsibility shared with foreigners.

Manono - documentary - people want AVZ/Australians due to paying higher wages and better conditions

Chinese are cheating the Congolese for 50kg of Concentrate they declare 15kg. Say it is wet/contains water etc, congolese see it is concentrate but don't object

Illegal presence of Chinese and foreigners.

Chinese do not operate the mines in line with international conditions/wages, they come to take the minerals, they exploit and pollute. Chinese destroy the environment, they speak chinese.

Chinese already control 70% plus of resources.

Chinese do not provide hospitals and education. Should come from mining sales.

Dathcom Feasibility study has plans for providing electricity with Australians operating in manono, provide water and health centres. These are planned in the model.

DRC need to diversify away from China

With the west, if they do not respect standards, DRC know how to hit them in their public opinion. Whereas with China who can they complain to? No one.

Chinese public policy is just to go and take/steal as much as possible

Australians - if they hurt us we sue them in the stock market or in the courts

Thanks for that DoubleA

Appreciate the summary