AVZ Discussion 2022

[Winenut]

*Fyi, For those of you who "Don't do Twitter"

And Cominiere (or should I more accurately say it's "noted and exposed" awful corrupt actors) could not be more "anti" the future of the good people and the children of the DRC

It beggars belief that this govt institution continues to operate outside the law and continues to rob the DRC nation of a decent future

All of which could be possible with the development of the Manono lithium deposit under Australian standards and ethics which has a focus of true prosperity for all and a real win/win for the local community, the DRC and investors alike

Wake up!!!!!

 

[Doc]

Cloak and dagger stuff shits me. Been a holder since 2c. Own more shares then most here yet I’m not worthy of the English translation of the ICC documents.
Trolls have won in sowing discord.
Good luck all

 

[Charbella]

don't worry ; Tommy will get it here and have it on the AFR shortly

The funny thing was Zijin’s lawyers were quoting and referencing AFR Tommy as gospel. Hi Tommy, who’s you source? Ms Chen Chen, Zijin Mining's in-house legal counsel. That’s what happens when you have no legal backings and it’s all about the he says/she says bullshit.

 

[BEISHA]

Cloak and dagger stuff shits me. Been a holder since 2c. Own more shares then most here yet I’m not worthy of the English translation of the ICC documents.
Trolls have won in sowing discord.
Good luck all

Fair call Doc, have you asked @9cardomaha for a copy?

 

[Onthefm]

https://mines.cd/revision-du-contrat-chinois-en-chine-la-rdc-rassure-maintenir-la-cooperation-avec-tenke-fungurume-mining/

I have very un ezy feelings about this china trip. Feels like I've put the kids in the play pen with a knife block full of my sharpest knives.

 

[cruiser51]

NEWSECONOMY

The United States invests US$250 million in the Lobito railway line, Angola/DR Congo/Zambia​

May 23, 2023
Kiki Kienge


By Kiki Kienge
Announced by US President Joe Biden during his G7 meeting in Japan with his Zambian counterpart Hakainde Hichilema, the United States plans to invest nearly US$250 million in the development of the Lobito rail corridor linking Angola to DRC and Zambia.

A press release from the White House of May 22, 2023, announces;
“The Lobito project is the first step to connect and develop trade and economic activity from Angola to the DRC. PGII is actively seeking other opportunities to connect initial Lobito Corridor investments across the continent, to Tanzania and ultimately to the Indian Ocean. »

The Lobito-Benguela railway will be used in particular for the export of minerals from the DR Congo and Zambia, such as copper, cobalt, soon lithium from Manono and other minerals.

US President Joe Biden said regarding the Lobito project:
“The railway line would stretch from the western coasts of Angola to the border of the DRC and Zambia, with the aim of eventually reaching the Indian Ocean, linking the continent from east to west to the first time. »

On the side of the DR Congo whose customs which connects the two countries, is at the border in the city of Dilolo in the DRC and Luau in Angola, an obvious economic advantage for the DRC: a shorter evacuation of Congolese goods, less costs compared to other means of transport such as to Tanzania, Kenya or Namibia.

In terms of the achievement of offenders, the DR Congo seems to be behind despite some docile movements at the Dilolo border under the regime of Joseph Kabila and at the start of the mandate of Félix Tshisekedi, compared to Angola which has already invested more than 333 million $US in the project.

Kinshasa should also benefit from the Lobito project, via the western corridor linking the DRC to Angola via Kikwit via Kahemba to end in Luanda.
Will the SNCC, the national Congolese railway company in serious difficulty, be able to follow in the footsteps of Angola and Zambia?

 

[Azzler]

I have very un ezy feelings about this china trip. Feels like I've put the kids in the play pen with a knife block full of my sharpest knives.

I know what you mean.
The thing is he doesn't need to go to china to screw over AVZ if he wanted to.
And china don't need to meet in person to offer bribes.

I think we're all imagining them getting together for poker, getting loaded and laughing about old times, then they bring in the girls. Afterwards throw an arm around a jolly DRC president and smiling with a fat brown paper bag offered say, "so how about that silly old mine in Manono?"

They're a major partner with the DRC with business and all that, a trip there is completely normal.

Keep this in mind, a major part of the visit is in regards to the predatory deals china has in the DRC mining sector, and all that negative attention is good for us non chinese who have offered everything above board, and fair.
In the midst of this diplomacy and renegotiation with respect to china not doing the right thing, imagine them offering more bribes for Manono!
It wouldn't go down too well.

They are welcome to take Manono legaly at a fair price, if they want the thing at all costs, there is always that.
No doubt they will apply pressure to get what they want, and that's what they've been doing in the past to get the mining deals that favor them.

It's possible he might even be asking them to tell Z to back off so they can get this thing into operation.
His ministers are implicated in this corruption with Z, and China are likely holding them to the fire over this.
I believe it's in Felix's best interest to negotiate a way for them to back off.

Screwing over AVZ will be very bad for them, particularly with the USA suddenly in the picture.

Actually that makes me think, part of the visit would be diplomacy about the USA entering into the DRC, as china would be spewin' about that.
It all needs to be smoothed over form the perspective of the DRC.
I would imagine.

 

[Onthefm]

I know what you mean.
The thing is he doesn't need to go to china to screw over AVZ if he wanted to.
And china don't need to meet in person to offer bribes.

I think we're all imagining them getting together for poker, getting loaded and laughing about old times, then they bring in the girls. Afterwards throw an arm around a jolly DRC president and smiling with a fat brown paper bag offered say, "so how about that silly old mine in Manono?"

They're a major partner with the DRC with business and all that, a trip there is completely normal.

Keep this in mind, a major part of the visit is in regards to the predatory deals china has in the DRC mining sector, and all that negative attention is good for us non chinese who have offered everything above board, and fair.
In the midst of this diplomacy and renegotiation with respect to china not doing the right thing, imagine them offering more bribes for Manono!
It wouldn't go down too well.

They are welcome to take Manono legaly at a fair price, if they want the thing at all costs, there is always that.
No doubt they will apply pressure to get what they want, and that's what they've been doing in the past to get the mining deals that favor them.

It's possible he might even be asking them to tell Z to back off so they can get this thing into operation.
His ministers are implicated in this corruption with Z, and China are likely holding them to the fire over this.
I believe it's in Felix's best interest to negotiate a way for them to back off.

Screwing over AVZ will be very bad for them, particularly with the USA suddenly in the picture.

Actually that makes me think, part of the visit would be diplomacy about the USA entering into the DRC, as china would be spewin' about that.
It all needs to be smoothed over form the perspective of the DRC.
I would imagine.

I hope so mate cheers.

 

[Flight996]

I have very un ezy feelings about this china trip. Feels like I've put the kids in the play pen with a knife block full of my sharpest knives.

Mate, all the reciprocal briefings and negotiations will be done well ahead of time, and the meeting with Xi Jinping will be the usual reinforcement of trade ties and a smiley photo opportunity. If Manono is on the agenda, its already decided.

I also tend to agree with Azzler about China's concerns about the DRC potentially letting the US get a foothold in the DRC. As we all know, Chinese companies and missions have a lot to hide and they do not want western competition for resources or scrutiny of their operations.

Cheers
F

 

[9cardomaha]

I think we're all imagining them getting together for poker, getting loaded and laughing about old times, then they bring in the girls. Afterwards throw an arm around a jolly DRC president and smiling with a fat brown paper bag offered say, "so how about that silly old mine in Manono?"

 

[Dazmac66]

https://theboatmancapital.com/avz-minerals/avz-minerals-experiencing-a-chinese-burn/
posted by Lollyologist on HC.

 

[cruiser51]

https://theboatmancapital.com/avz-minerals/avz-minerals-experiencing-a-chinese-burn/
posted by Lollyologist on HC.

That's 12 months old mate

 

[BEISHA]

https://theboatmancapital.com/avz-minerals/avz-minerals-experiencing-a-chinese-burn/
posted by Lollyologist on HC.

What a farken joke hey ?

Credibility =

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Cloak and dagger stuff shits me. Been a holder since 2c. Own more shares then most here yet I’m not worthy of the English translation of the ICC documents.
Trolls have won in sowing discord.
Good luck all

I think the troll - discord element has been here in the background for a long time Doc and if nothing else the last weeks (and the last week in particular) reminded everyone here that the snakes are always lurking in the undergrowth. Probably a good reminder, and we know teabag lurks here.

I’m sure @9cardomaha is now even more cautious with his information, it’s a fucken shame that there are so many trolls in the world that sow seeds of mistrust and shareholders like you have been affected, but those trolls never win in the end

Sorry I couldn’t reply to you last week as I had been suspended, but as @Carlos Danger posted, a lot of the information is in the public domain now

I was looking into a few minor details last week including:

The Ghost
German translation - Der Geist

Klaus Eckof
Nationality- German

Things in Common
Access to inside information

Both known to liaise with
Simon Cong (Dathomir)
Teabag tom

I’m not saying they are the same person, just noting their mutual interests

Anyway, that’s enough cloak and dagger stuff from me, I just really wanted to express my regret that genuine holders like you get caught up in the trolling bullshit.

If you want something to cheer you up, have a look and see how well their new thread is going

 

[Frank]

View attachment 37115

 

[Dazmac66]

That's 12 months old mate

Yeah I know the info is, just looks like a re-release in new format?

 

[Frank]

 

[Frank]

NEWSECONOMY

The United States invests US$250 million in the Lobito railway line, Angola/DR Congo/Zambia​

May 23, 2023
Kiki Kienge

 

[BEISHA]

That's 12 months old mate,

It may be 12 months old cruiser, but in the ICC case ZIJIN / COM ( claimant ) v AVZ ( responder ), the claimants believe Dathomir are a part of Dathcom JV ............so still relevant in the eyes of the corrupt

What cracks me up with that Boatman pie chart........is the dumb pricks think CATH is part of the equation, which of course its not , cause thats encumbent on AVZ obtaining ML and having 51% control minimum.

Whats interesting, is that ZIJIN / COM aint happy about CATH being in the equation at all..........

Food for thought


Nuff said from me....



imo

 

[Funtimes1]

I know what you mean.
The thing is he doesn't need to go to china to screw over AVZ if he wanted to.
And china don't need to meet in person to offer bribes.

I think we're all imagining them getting together for poker, getting loaded and laughing about old times, then they bring in the girls. Afterwards throw an arm around a jolly DRC president and smiling with a fat brown paper bag offered say, "so how about that silly old mine in Manono?"

They're a major partner with the DRC with business and all that, a trip there is completely normal.

Keep this in mind, a major part of the visit is in regards to the predatory deals china has in the DRC mining sector, and all that negative attention is good for us non chinese who have offered everything above board, and fair.
In the midst of this diplomacy and renegotiation with respect to china not doing the right thing, imagine them offering more bribes for Manono!
It wouldn't go down too well.

They are welcome to take Manono legaly at a fair price, if they want the thing at all costs, there is always that.
No doubt they will apply pressure to get what they want, and that's what they've been doing in the past to get the mining deals that favor them.

It's possible he might even be asking them to tell Z to back off so they can get this thing into operation.
His ministers are implicated in this corruption with Z, and China are likely holding them to the fire over this.
I believe it's in Felix's best interest to negotiate a way for them to back off.

Screwing over AVZ will be very bad for them, particularly with the USA suddenly in the picture.

Actually that makes me think, part of the visit would be diplomacy about the USA entering into the DRC, as china would be spewin' about that.
It all needs to be smoothed over form the perspective of the DRC.
I would imagine.

In all fairness none of us know the outcome of this trip , even the most knowledgeable members are rolling a dice. I’ve lived and still work in Asia for the past 35 years and most Asians (that actually know) sum up dealing with China and Chineses as dangerous! That's a powerful word and not used on any other country.The Chinese past emperors believed all roads lead to China and the CCP still believe that. Its their vision and controlling the battery supply chain one of a few projects they are all out in accomplishing. Now DRC - Having worked with many South Africans they explain the tribal mentality throughout Africa. The Chef always wore the most impressive cloths and owned the biggest lands. That’s how it still operators and the Chefs are now minsters and have you seen the outfits these guys wear and their salaries are what? 2000 a month? The point is , it’s semi excepted all this corruption and in some cases respected and I’m not disillusioned by thinking FT not involved. Saying all that , I believe AVZ played this right and refused to play ball. Cominere been quoted as calling us a minnow explorer and thought we would roll over with support from MOP and maybe MOM. They are now understanding they have dug a hole and the whole world is watching. I’m quietly confident and worst case scenario a low ball TO will be completed around 4-5 billion US and best case is we go mining with a controlling %.