AVZ Discussion 2022

[timb89]

What?

I don't what further to add in regards to my commentary on your position.

 

[Sparrowhawk12]

Lads, and Ladies. Before I go slamming the arsehole Kibeye on FB, can anyone confirm please100% that this is the same dickhead? (my eyes are not 100%) https://www.facebook.com/cele.kibeya/friends_all

Hi @The Fox . Looks like CKK but can't be 100% sure. Noting last post was Aug-2012. May not be much of a target? Br

 

[Rediah]

Lads, and Ladies. Before I go slamming the arsehole Kibeye on FB, can anyone confirm please100% that this is the same dickhead? (my eyes are not 100%) https://www.facebook.com/cele.kibeya/friends_all

Kibeye reminds me of the Gabonese TikToker ,

 

[wombat74]

Hi @The Fox . Looks like CKK but can't be 100% sure. Noting last post was Aug-2012. May not be much of a target? Br

He has 2 FB pages . The other one is current .

 

[Der Geist]

The Somalian pirates exist because large corporate entities have taken all the fish

 

[MoneyBags1348]

@The Fox
I thought there was footage of the infamous Kibeya interview on the YouTube website advertising the AFRICAN MINING WEEK 2023. I see the website link seems to have changed since I last looked at it. There are however videos on the China - Sicomines joint venture and China’s debt trap strategy.
https://youtube.com/@drcminingweek5484

There are copies of two of Kibeya’s interviews floating around, I have copies of them too

@Winenut and @TDITD
I’m glad you have recognised recent troll activity and the insidious way it develops. A new troll emerges, posts several times daily pretending to provide information, and it isn’t long before an accomplice joins in

As it turns out, zeebot has issued me a new automatic ban warning and has suggested my actions are trolling and baiting. Amazing after I personally asked him to suspend me months ago.

Fortunately I have a hotline to @Frank and @JAG and one or two others if I need to share information.

Shareholders on this forum know I have only ever wanted the best outcome for us and the company, and I have been here now for over a year trying to expose corruption…. Especially corruption that tries working against us on this forum.

Any suggestion I was baiting, trolling or accusing an individual is baseless as that (or those) individuals have targeted me.

As far as any suggestion or accusation I made that a post of mine was forged, I have the proof and can easily share it with zeebot or any other trustworthy shareholder here. It also involved another person who used two separate aliases at the time and was confirmed at the time by both
@Remark
@Rediah

My only other comment now is for shareholder’s to keep watchful. Most here know who are loyal to our cause!!

 

[Nellie17]

@The Fox
I thought there was footage of the infamous Kibeya interview on the YouTube website advertising the AFRICAN MINING WEEK 2023. I see the website link seems to have changed since I last looked at it. There are however videos on the China - Sicomines joint venture and China’s debt trap strategy.
https://youtube.com/@drcminingweek5484

There are copies of two of Kibeya’s interviews floating around, I have copies of them too

@Winenut and @TDITD
I’m glad you have recognised recent troll activity and the insidious way it develops. A new troll emerges, posts several times daily pretending to provide information, and it isn’t long before an accomplice joins in

As it turns out, zeebot has issued me a new automatic ban warning and has suggested my actions are trolling and baiting. Amazing after I personally asked him to suspend me months ago.

Fortunately I have a hotline to @Frank and @JAG and one or two others if I need to share information.

Shareholders on this forum know I have only ever wanted the best outcome for us and the company, and I have been here now for over a year trying to expose corruption…. Especially corruption that tries working against us on this forum.

Any suggestion I was baiting, trolling or accusing an individual is baseless as that (or those) individuals have targeted me.

As far as any suggestion or accusation I made that a post of mine was forged, I have the proof and can easily share it with zeebot or any other trustworthy shareholder here. It was confirmed at the time by @Rediah

My only other comment now is for shareholder’s to keep watchful. Most here know who are loyal to our cause!!

There' is shit people everywhere in the world Bags, and he is one of them!

Cheers,
Nells x

 

[Der Geist]

Are you using CD/LSH/RCCM/19-B-00935 ?

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To the broader point of whether Jin Cheng should have been allowed to buy part of Dathcom instead of Zijin, Christian Lukusa talks about it in this interview he did in September. Here's my notes from the time.

- The transfer of shares isn't between Cominiere and Zijin. In the transfer contract (which is shown) it is between Cominiere and Zijin's subsidiary Jin Cheng. Allegedly this is not allowed in the mining code without approval from the government which wasn't received.
- Says even worse in the notary deed it is not the CEO signing the documents which is required.

Here are the documents shown in the video supporting what he is saying. Sorry about the image quality and some of the translation being inaccurate.

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Carlos do you have the full version of this contract with Zijin? Or from where was it sourced?

 

[Der Geist]

accusation I made that a post of mine was forged, I have the proof and can easily share it with zeebot or any other trustworthy shareholder here.

As I said, it was a technical glitch. I’ll add more context: it was on a iphone 5 with limited memory and it was very electrostatically clunky = the technical glitch.
Also note this incident only happened once, and by the time you noticed is the time o noticed - you drew my atttention to it. I have no intention playing silly games.

 

[The Fox]

@The Fox
I thought there was footage of the infamous Kibeya interview on the YouTube website advertising the AFRICAN MINING WEEK 2023. I see the website link seems to have changed since I last looked at it. There are however videos on the China - Sicomines joint venture and China’s debt trap strategy.
https://youtube.com/@drcminingweek5484

There are copies of two of Kibeya’s interviews floating around, I have copies of them too

@Winenut and @TDITD
I’m glad you have recognised recent troll activity and the insidious way it develops. A new troll emerges, posts several times daily pretending to provide information, and it isn’t long before an accomplice joins in

As it turns out, zeebot has issued me a new automatic ban warning and has suggested my actions are trolling and baiting. Amazing after I personally asked him to suspend me months ago.

Fortunately I have a hotline to @Frank and @JAG and one or two others if I need to share information.

Shareholders on this forum know I have only ever wanted the best outcome for us and the company, and I have been here now for over a year trying to expose corruption…. Especially corruption that tries working against us on this forum.

Any suggestion I was baiting, trolling or accusing an individual is baseless as that (or those) individuals have targeted me.

As far as any suggestion or accusation I made that a post of mine was forged, I have the proof and can easily share it with zeebot or any other trustworthy shareholder here. It also involved another person who used two separate aliases at the time and was confirmed at the time by both
@Remark
@Rediah

My only other comment now is for shareholder’s to keep watchful. Most here know who are loyal to our cause!!

Nice run down MB.

Regarding Kibeye, he is now strangely quiet on Twitter after his plethora of tweets and jibes.

Too early to suggest why, however I wonder if someone higher up the food chain has tapped him on the shoulder.

I guess we will find out soon enough.

Have a good week all.

 

[TheCount]

 

[patienceisking]

 

[patienceisking]

this is getting ugly imo, Cominere and Zijin have gone all in as well, with the recent change of ownership on the map I can hardly justify this is the sole action of CKK or any individual but backed by the corrupt government, hate to say it but we & the management may need to change their way of handling things, tricky times...

 

[BRICK]

If all else fails, just counter-sue for some stupidly high amount. Standard procedure id say?

 

[Der Geist]

The person is real , only thing to verify is if he is indeed the twitter handler of that account.

If I can get to talk to him over the phone I will be able to verify that too

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Is Netoo on here?

 

[Sammy_da_Smile]

If all else fails, just counter-sue for some stupidly high amount. Standard procedure id say?

Exactly, nice valuation mentioned there!

 

[MoneyBags1348]

As I said, it was a technical glitch. I’ll add more context: it was on a iphone 5 with limited memory and it was very electrostatically clunky = the technical glitch.
Also note this incident only happened once, and by the time you noticed is the time o noticed - you drew my atttention to it. I have no intention playing silly games.

Like I said, I have the proof, other members here can substantiate it, and it was clearly done with intention…. As was a veiled threat by you towards me previously insinuating you knew where I lived, which by the way wasn’t even close

Just because you don’t allow access to your tse account doesn’t mean I haven’t kept the evidence, not sure who you are trying to fool

I’m sure the usual usurping trolls will be out in force doing their best to undermine our company after this morning’s announcement…. You know who I mean, you’ve given them information before

Before I get suspended by zeebots again, he might like to ask me for the proof!!

 

[DiscoDanNZ]

Managed to grab 2 minutes while waiting for a delivery and this what I come home to? What in the fucking fuck is going

Also GG Jin Cheng suing for an absurd amount of what is only worth 33m for a 15% share

 

[Der Geist]

I have read it. And never said anything about in the letter was a offer. So please read my post carefully too!

At the end nigel clearly stated: Cominiere SA never consulted its partner AVZI but sent a letter to the parent company AVZ.

And my question is….what stands in the letter? Was it a invitation for the first speaking about a deal? Was it just the information that cominiere making a deal and sell it to zijin? Or was it just a bday gift card? nothing more.

And it’s a fact that the Minister of portfolio criticized in a letter that it’s confusing when to interact with avz or avzi. Nothing more again.

Like I said before I have no idea what was in the letter written by cominiere. And it’s only interesting when it was the first invite for a consultation of the jv partners to maybe discuss the zijin deal. And when cominiere get no response, it could be the trigger to continue discussions with zijin. But that’s just a theory, and it would only be interesting when it was a invitation before the zijin deal was done. I know they are dodgy as fuck but in the letter from nigel is no word about what stands in cominieres letter and which date got it.

like a prosecutor, i seek incriminating and exculpatory evidence for both sides. I don't think our management has done everything flawlessly in the past. whether it is just a lack of involvement in building a meaningful working relationship which could be a little part that brings us in that situation. So Please don't say things I've never said, like i did when you post anything. I’m very carefully in my words and when i have a feeling about someone’s thoughts but not sure if I interpreted it in the right way, I just ask again.

I thought the statement on sending to wrong entity was unnecessary and abrasive with “strictly sensu”. But having read that sentence again and the whole letter again recently, as I recall, Zijin and Cominiere had already breached the JVA in a number of ways.

Does anyone have a Chronology explicating the sequence of correspondences within Dathcom?
@9cardomaha

 

[Der Geist]

Like I said, I have the proof, other members here can substantiate it, and it was clearly done with intention…. As was a veiled threat by you towards me previously insinuating you knew where I lived, which by the way wasn’t even close

Just because you don’t allow access to your tse account doesn’t mean I haven’t kept the evidence, not sure who you are trying to fool

I’m sure the usual usurping trolls will be out in force doing their best to undermine our company after this morning’s announcement…. You know who I mean, you’ve given them information before

Before I get suspended by zeebots again, he might like to ask me for the proof!!

I think you should focus on your history of grumpiness in these threads.