AVZ Discussion 2022
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There is some sad news for CKK....., Z, or Cong are no part of the deal. Fukkum.
Z are thieves, tried to blackmail the DRC and Cong sold out.
Sorry guys, you will be dealt with through court.
I hope AVZ and the DRC will present you with the bill.
CKK better wakes up to this reality pretty soon.
I wonder when Mr. Xi will ask Mr. Chen to honourably disappear via the side curtains in the best interest of the People's Republic of China.
He really hasn't set a great example for the general public.
Unless Xi would like Chen's letter to be published in China for some general cheap entertainment.
The Chinese love a bit of schadenfreude for a good laugh.
Problem is I doubt he has the mental capacity or the moral fortitude to do so!
Sorry, I am not CKK's keeper.
However, I hope Felix will kick CKK into jail in a way this fool will never forget.
Now old snake head has been thrown under the bus the pressure needs to be screwed up on Zijin to concede they have been criminal in their dealings and walk away. The letter of demand highlighting their blackmail should be posted in every orifice of social media.
PS Jag, loving your work on twitter, any tips on how to post the gifs(or whatever they are). Not too flash on using the bird. TIA mate.
PS Jag, loving your work on twitter, any tips on how to post the gifs(or whatever they are). Not too flash on using the bird. TIA mate.
Having just digested all the output from the last 24hrs, re: the Civil Society meeting in Lumambashi etc, my feeling is that we don't seem any closer to a resolution. Sounds like we haven't even been able to get everyone around a table. I think the situation with Cominiere may well be intractable, and it will in the end come down to a Presidential intervention one way or the other down the line, when the deadlock isn't broken. As I can't see them waiting until the ICC cases are put to bed.
I hope we are doing our best to lobby FT and get some facetime. You can be sure the opposing factions are doing what they can to poison that well - as they did effectively during Covid.
Anyway, still appears quite perilous. Stay strong team!
I hope we are doing our best to lobby FT and get some facetime. You can be sure the opposing factions are doing what they can to poison that well - as they did effectively during Covid.
Anyway, still appears quite perilous. Stay strong team!
Dijon101
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Unrelated but related news:
ASSOCIATED PRESS
NEW YORK (AP) — FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried was charged with directing $40 million in bribes to one or more Chinese officials to unfreeze assets relating to his cryptocurrency business in a newly rewritten indictment unsealed Tuesday.
After Bankman-Fried failed multiple attempts over several months to unfreeze the accounts through methods including using lawyers to lobby, Bankman-Fried ultimately agreed to direct a multimillion dollar bribe to try to unfreeze the accounts, the indictment said.
Looks like its simply how business is done with the Chinese. Bribes and corruption are the normal....
ASSOCIATED PRESS
NEW YORK (AP) — FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried was charged with directing $40 million in bribes to one or more Chinese officials to unfreeze assets relating to his cryptocurrency business in a newly rewritten indictment unsealed Tuesday.
After Bankman-Fried failed multiple attempts over several months to unfreeze the accounts through methods including using lawyers to lobby, Bankman-Fried ultimately agreed to direct a multimillion dollar bribe to try to unfreeze the accounts, the indictment said.
Looks like its simply how business is done with the Chinese. Bribes and corruption are the normal....
Via WhatsApp ffs!
Uglybob
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I know a large chunk of Aussies don't think much of religious organisations, but you need to understand that for every dickhead exposed in the media for doing something bad, there are another 100 people doing something good for the better of the community because they care.
Here on the Gold Coast there are multiple groups ensuring the homeless can get a free hot meal every night of the week at multiple locations around the place.
They put together teams to help clean up after the floods.
The have renovated community centres out of their own funds for non-religions groups so they can better serve the community.
One church bought a house, renovated it with a bunch of bedrooms and then handed it over to the salvos to run as a safe place for homeless expectant mothers who had no where to go. For free, while covering the running costs.
There are stacks more things like this that are funded by the churches, not government money.
The same goes over in DRC. The churches are there from the Belgium days. They aren't rich but do care about the people in the community and have a good idea what's going on in the area. So if they see something that will greatly benefit the community and drag them out of the absolute poverty which is all around them, they will push for it.
Here on the Gold Coast there are multiple groups ensuring the homeless can get a free hot meal every night of the week at multiple locations around the place.
They put together teams to help clean up after the floods.
The have renovated community centres out of their own funds for non-religions groups so they can better serve the community.
One church bought a house, renovated it with a bunch of bedrooms and then handed it over to the salvos to run as a safe place for homeless expectant mothers who had no where to go. For free, while covering the running costs.
There are stacks more things like this that are funded by the churches, not government money.
The same goes over in DRC. The churches are there from the Belgium days. They aren't rich but do care about the people in the community and have a good idea what's going on in the area. So if they see something that will greatly benefit the community and drag them out of the absolute poverty which is all around them, they will push for it.
All will be revealed soon at the ICC. From the Finance Minister’s interview one thing is clear they don’t want all their eggs in one basket. When the Chinese already control all the other mines in the DRC, the same thing cannot happen to Manono.
Zijin have admitted the 15% is not legit . Why are they going ahead with it ?
Let's hope so. My wish is that this April hearing will publicly expose Zijin and Cominiere, and push the DRC leadership to intervene. As the expected result from this ICC case won't be around till after July 2023 at the earliest, and will only be ruling on whether ICC is the right jurisdiction for Zijin's challenge, so likely isnt an end in itself. Whilst a positive result on this challenge could be used as an affirmation that Zijin isn't part of the JVA and thus the Project, it wouldn't be a legal resolution of the transfer of shares from Cominiere to Jin Cheng. That would await further time and legal action.
So fingers crossed that the information presented at the upcoming hearing is sufficiently clear and damning enough for either:
A) Zijin to withdraw their challenge and walk away, in order to maintain their wider interests in DRC - perhaps with some sort of compensatory titbit from the government
B) FT / MoM to be provided with the ammunition required to make a captain's call to follow the Mining Code and oust Zijin, paving way for issuance of ML
We'll have to try and support the circulation of info presented at the ICC as part of efforts to ensure it reaches the right hands, and percolates through the community also.
Bin59
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Another article (Nov 2022) of interest but not directly related to AVZ:
Brine nests and treatment areas of the lithium mine of the Chilean company SQM, in the Atacama Desert. (Martin BERNETTI / AFP) (Photo by MARTIN BERNETTI/AFP via Getty Images)Canada no longer wants China to have stakes in its lithium mining companies. A change of attitude that means a lot.
The news: Canada no longer wants Chinese holdings in its lithium companies.
Canada orders China to withdraw from its lithium companies: "Don't have the same values"
Olivier DaelenFriday, November 4, 2022
The news: Canada no longer wants Chinese holdings in its lithium companies.
- The Canadian government ordered China to withdraw from three lithium extraction companies. Are targeted:
- Sinomine Rare Metals Resources' participation in Power metals (which mines in Canada)
- Chengze Lithium International's participation in Lithium Chile (which mines in Chile and Argentina)
- Zangge Mining Investment's stake in Ultra Lithium (which mines in Canada, the USA and Argentina)
- It is China that is directly targeted. On the one hand, because it would not share Canadian values. On the other hand, because it would represent a threat to the security of the country. This decision follows a review by the defence and intelligence services that led to the conclusion that these investments posed a threat to national security.
- The Minister of Industry, François-Philippe Champagne, indicated that Canada remains in favor of foreign direct investment by companies that "share our interests and values", but that it "act decisively when investments threaten our national security and our supply chains of essential minerals".
- In parallel with this announcement, Canada also indicated that it would only exceptionally allow public entities to invest in its essential mineral companies.
- Here too, it is the Chinese groups that are in sight.
- At the same time, Ottawa is busy strengthening its economic ties with its Western allies in terms of critical minerals, such as lithium.
- The initiative is welcomed by the United States.
- "This is a change in Canada's national security policy, which is moving from traditional national security risks to critical supply chain risks," Nazak Nikakhtar, a former U.S. Department of Commerce official, told the Financial Times.
- China obviously sees this with a bad eye, but it does not panic. Its refiners still process more than half of the global supply.
- It would be different if Australia, the world's largest producer, followed the same path as that taken by Canada, in turn excluding Chinese groups.
- It should be noted, as explained here, that Europe is also trying to get rid of its dependence on Chinese lithium refiners
- An essential element of batteries, lithium is perceived as a major issue for the green transition - although its extraction is anything but green.
- According to the IEA's estimates, global demand for lithium will increase more than tenfold over the next twenty years.
Well a few months ago we were told that Zijin had indeed withdrawn their claim to 15% and that the DRC were going to sweeten the going away pot with some other leases. What happened to that?
I think they decided instead to embark on a strategic campaign of delayance, hoping that if they could prevent the Project from going ahead through legal actions and through the intercession of their corrupt DRC facilitators, all the while conducting a twin high-level / grass-roots campaign to present these blockages as AVZ's fault, that the Government would eventually lose patience and strip our licence - opening the path for their seizure of Manono
I think this was around when they realised they may not be able to claim the northern tenement, so shifted gears back towards playing the long game aimed at outright control
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