AVZ Discussion 2022

[Xerof]

That was my take

Perhaps there is a trade-off here - I'll keep you on, you fix up the shit you have caused over 13359. She is definitely popular, and politically important to FT. Need to remember corruption is their way of life, and they are in 'transition' LOL, cunts

3 hail marys for that

 

[Xerof]

You missed it

Ah fuck, thanks

 

[Onthefm]

Proof that the president does not give a fuck about corruption.

I beg to differ when you are the Head of any enterprise you give a fuck. And things get done exactly how you want it.

 

[Azzler]

As long as we get our ML, I don't give two shits if she is still a minister.

 

[cruiser51]

Where the fuk is Wiiliam????

 

[cruiser51]

Perhaps there is a trade-off here - I'll keep you on, you fix up the shit you have caused over 13359. She is definitely popular, and politically important to FT. Need to remember corruption is their way of life, and they are in 'transition' LOL, cunts

3 hail marys for that

If you've been to the Vatican recently and kissed the Pope's ring, no need for hail marys, you suffered enough for a good cause for the life of this Pope.

 

[Xerof]

Where the fuk is Wiiliam????



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He's the cunt in the grey great-coat next to Wally. Looks like he just delivered a box of paper bags

 

[Strongman]

Perhaps there is a trade-off here - I'll keep you on, you fix up the shit you have caused over 13359. She is definitely popular, and politically important to FT. Need to remember corruption is their way of life, and they are in 'transition' LOL, cunts

3 hail marys for that

Yeah mate this is almost certainly what is happening here. Felix is stuck between a rock and a hard place. MOP ....cant live with her , cant live without here. Felix has made his call re the coming election. Adele is required to shore up his chances of re election. Despite the fact that his own watchdog the IGF has shown her to be involved in the AVZ shit show he has decided to retain her in the MOP position and thus is complicit in the corruption that he was mandated to eradicate when originally elected. Felix is a smart fucker though and has never publicly commented on the IGF findings and all the other bullshit AVZ is trying to navigate. I guess his gamble here is that he can somehow smooth the waters with regards to MOP's dodgy dealings and not suffer a huge electoral backlash. Hopefully he has given her a rap over the knuckles and all this shit gets sorted in our favour. Recent Cami map re 100 % of 13359 now back with Dathcom is a positive step

 

[Azzler]

@MoneyBags1348 or anyone, I'm looking for a document i recall seeing a while ago, of AVZI writing to Cominiere warning them that if they sell the shares to Zijin, they will be breaching the contract.
Does anyone know where I might find this, as well as any other correspondance like AVZ claiming it never recieved notification ect?
Cheers.

EDIT: All good I found it, thanks Mr Money bags for keeping records of all the bullshit here for us

 

[Carlos Danger]

@MoneyBags1348 or anyone, I'm looking for a document i recall seeing a while ago, of AVZI writing to Cominiere warning them that if they sell the shares to Zijin, they will be breaching the contract.
Does anyone know where I might find this, as well as any other correspondance like AVZ claiming it never recieved notification ect?
Cheers.

 

[Azzler]

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Cheers Legend!

 

[Frank]

RDC : Voici tous les membres du Gouvernement Sama 2

Après plusieurs semaines d’attente, le Gouvernement Sama 2 a enfin été publié ce jeudi 23 mars 2023 dans la soirée. L’ordonnance portant nomination de cette nouvelle équipe a été lue sur les antennes de la Radio Télévision Nationale Congolaise (RTNC). Parmi les « grandes surprises », figurent...

7sur7.cd

Same Minister of portfolio ... unbelievable.

Reshuffle: Jean-Pierre Bemba and Vital Kamerhe enter the Sama Lukonde 2 government (Complete list)!

The Wait will have been very long, the Sama Lukonde 2 Government is finally here.

Leaders of the sacred union take office a few months before the elections.

Here are, in full, the people appointed as members of the Government!

Deputy Prime Minister in charge of the Interior: KAZADI KANKONDE Peter;

Deputy Prime Minister in charge of National Defense: BEMBA GOMBO Jean Pierre;

Deputy Prime Minister in charge of the National Economy: Kamerhe Vital

Deputy Prime Minister in charge of the Public Service: LIHAU EBUA Jean-Pierre

Ministers of State

Environment and Nature Conservation: Bazaiba Masudi Eve;

Justice and Keeper of the Seals: Mutumbo Kiesse Rose

Infrastructure and Public Works: Gizaro Alexis

Regional Integration: Mbusa Nyamuisi;

Budget: Boji Sangara Aimé;

Portfolio: Kayinda Adele;

Blueprint: Tuluka Sumwina Judith;

Habitat: Pius Mwabilu

Rural Development: François Rubota

MINISTERS

Finance: Nicolas Kazadi

Health: Samuel Kamba Mulamba Roger

Agriculture: Jose Mpanda

EPST: Tony Mwaba

Transport: Ekila Marc

Fishing and Breeding: Bokele Adrien

Industry: Julien Paluku

Employment and Social Welfare: Ndusi Kembe

Entrepreneurship: Nzinga Désiré

ESU: Muhindo Nzangi

Scientific Research: Kabanda Gilbert

Mining: Nsamba Kalambayi

Hydrocarbons: Budimbu Didier

PTNTIC: Kibassa Maliba

Digital: Eberande Kolongele

Land Affairs: Molendo Sakombi

Foreign Trade: Jean Lucien Bussa

Human Rights: Fabrice Puela

Tourism: Didier Manzenga

Communication and Media: Patrick Muyaya

Social Affairs: Modeste Mutinga

Professional Training: Kipulu Bernadette;

Youth and Initiation to New Citizenship: Bunkulu Zola Yves;

Sports: Kabulo Mwana Kabulo

Culture: Katungu Furaha Catherine;

Relations with Parliament: Karume

Minister to the President of the Republic: Nana Manwanina

Minister Delegate PVH: Esambo Irene

Deputy Ministers

Interior: Molepe J-C

Foreign Affairs: Crispin Mbandu

Justice: Mambu Lau

Blueprint: Betikia Pascal

Budget: Bokulwana

National Defense: Adubango Samy

Finance: Nsele O'Neige

MINES: Motemona Godard

Public Health: Olene Serge

EPST: Namasia Aminata

Hydrocarbons: Moleka Wivine

Transportation: Kilubu Seraphine

mediacongo

 

[TheCount]

New hat run - who's in?

TC.

PS: Sorry - doesn't come in green..

 

[ptlas]

New hat run - who's in?

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TC.

PS: Sorry - doesn't come in green..

We're all in this shit show.

Dolare zomi na mibale

 

[MoneyBags1348]

@MoneyBags1348 or anyone, I'm looking for a document i recall seeing a while ago, of AVZI writing to Cominiere warning them that if they sell the shares to Zijin, they will be breaching the contract.
Does anyone know where I might find this, as well as any other correspondance like AVZ claiming it never recieved notification ect?
Cheers.

EDIT: All good I found it, thanks Mr Money bags for keeping records of all the bullshit here for us

Thanks for letting me know Az, I was just in the middle of looking for it for you, and thanks @Carlos Danger for posting the info.... Saves me time!

 

[Winenut]

Pretty quiet in here for a Friday

To liven things up I think everyone should get on the piss and meet back in a few hours....

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Bags I'm not entirely across his story because I've been working on a few big projects.

If you can leave some bullet points in your corruption thread I will try get across it and create something later. No promises as I'm still flat out.

SPC Baked Beans & Spaghetti don't just materialise all by themselves you know.

Spike it was about this original YouTube interview on JMK Today (I think it was on 17/03/2023) with Celestin Kibeya Kabemba (the acting Managing Director of Cominiere).... Where he told several lies about AVZ and Cominiere



Following the interview @Roon made the following observation:

He's been deeply involved in the corrupt dealings impacting Dathcom. Prior to his role as acting MD given the detainment of his predecessor KIBEYA was Cominiere's Technical Director / Chief Operating Officer. Documentation presented by journalists and civil society actors in 2022 *including minutes of Cominiere board meetings* showed he was one of those involved in orchestrating the Zijin theft of the 15%, for which the deposit has disappeared into various pockets. its believed he was behind the two mysteriously identical yet allegedly independent valuations of the 15% supporting that looting effort by providing documentation undervaluing that in comparison to the DFS data. He's also thought to have existing relations with Zijin through previous links with Kamoa Copper which no doubt helped facilitate their entry into this game - so he should be considered one of the architects of our drama along with the other two Cominiere officials, DG Cami, MOP, etc.

He's also faced accusations over corruption with relation to the United Cominiere / Tantalex case with Eric Allard, with his signature co-signing against various dodgy deeds. Along with other various scandals. He's a corrupt rat through and through and I hope MM does indeed burn him. There's plenty of evidence to support a burning. Various actors in DRC attempted to have him implicated and imprisoned alongside his Cominiere colleagues regarding the irregular transfer to Zijin without success.


Today @Bin59 posted this Twitter link of another interview with this arsehole where he wants Zigin to operate the mine




I was thinking the following things should be highlighted

Cominiere and Zigin have defrauded Dathcom of millions of dollars, including Cominiere embezzling millions of dollars in the transaction

The Inspector General of Finance (Jules Alingete) finds Cominiere's sale of shares to Zigin was illegal and fraudulent

The Managing Director and Technical Director of Cominiere were charged and jailed for illegal fraud and embezzlement of funds relating to the sale of shares to Zigin


Somewhere through the comments and replies to the Tweet by Kiki Kienge about this second interview, @JAG posted a chart showing Zigin's appalling human rights record which would also be good to use

 

[cruiser51]

New hat run - who's in?

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TC.

PS: Sorry - doesn't come in green..

The BoD might claim copyright.

 

[Spikerama]

Spike it was about this original YouTube interview on JMK Today on 17/03/2023 with Celestin Kibeya Kabemba (the acting Managing Director of Cominiere)....



Following the interview @Roon made the following observation:

He's been deeply involved in the corrupt dealings impacting Dathcom. Prior to his role as acting MD given the detainment of his predecessor KIBEYA was Cominiere's Technical Director / Chief Operating Officer. Documentation presented by journalists and civil society actors in 2022 *including minutes of Cominiere board meetings* showed he was one of those involved in orchestrating the Zijin theft of the 15%, for which the deposit has disappeared into various pockets. its believed he was behind the two mysteriously identical yet allegedly independent valuations of the 15% supporting that looting effort by providing documentation undervaluing that in comparison to the DFS data. He's also thought to have existing relations with Zijin through previous links with Kamoa Copper which no doubt helped facilitate their entry into this game - so he should be considered one of the architects of our drama along with the other two Cominiere officials, DG Cami, MOP, etc.

He's also faced accusations over corruption with relation to the United Cominiere / Tantalex case with Eric Allard, with his signature co-signing against various dodgy deeds. Along with other various scandals. He's a corrupt rat through and through and I hope MM does indeed burn him. There's plenty of evidence to support a burning. Various actors in DRC attempted to have him implicated and imprisoned alongside his Cominiere colleagues regarding the irregular transfer to Zijin without success.


Today @Bin59 posted this Twitter link of another (more recent interview) this arsehole did where he wants Zigin to operate the mine




I was thinking the following things should be highlighted

Cominiere and Zigin have defrauded Dathcom of millions of dollars, including Cominiere embezzling millions of dollars in the transaction

The Inspector General of Finance (Jules Alingete) finds Cominiere's sale of shares to Zigin were illegal and fraudulent

The Managing Director and Technical Director of Cominiere were charged and jailed for illegal fraud and embezzlement of funds relating to the sale of shares to Zigin

Very good mate. A couple of things I would note though is that your 3 points at the end to highlight, the first 2 of them have already been highlighted in previous executions. The third is telling a different story to what was exposed in the two posts by Roon and Bin above.

The other thing is Roon's post whilst damning, contains a lot of speculative accusations.

We need to be real sure and have the proof to back it up if we are going to try take him down. Can't just accuse him of being a corrupt rat because he appears to be. Obviously there seems to be his prints and signature all over a few documents so that's a start but what about the interview itself. He seems to not know what's going on or have any facts straight. That's a big problem if you are MD of a company. Maybe there's more in there?

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Very good mate. A couple of things I would note though is that your 3 points at the end to highlight, the first 2 of them have already been highlighted in previous executions. The third is telling a different story to what was exposed in the two posts by Roon and Bin above.

The other thing is Roon's post whilst damning, contains a lot of speculative accusations.

We need to be real sure and have the proof to back it up if we are going to try take him down. Can't just accuse him of being a corrupt rat because he appears to be. Obviously there seems to be his prints and signature all over a few documents so that's a start but what about the interview itself. He seems to not know what's going on or have any facts straight. That's a big problem if you are MD of a company. Maybe there's more in there?

I think I'm just focused on keeping those particular facts in the headlines as Cominiere and Zigin are still trying to divert attention away from these facts as well as lie about other facts

Cominiere and Zigin have defrauded Dathcom of millions of dollars, including Cominiere embezzling millions of dollars in the transaction

The Inspector General of Finance (Jules Alingete) finds Cominiere's sale of shares to Zigin was illegal and fraudulent

The Managing Director and Technical Director of Cominiere were charged and jailed for the illegal and fraudulent transaction with Zigin

Celestin Kibeya Kabemba is a high official in Cominiere, so can be associated with knowledge of the illegal transaction.... He was also at the Dathcom site every day, and there is evidence that Cominiere were aware of AVZ's transactions.... Remember they denied knowledge

So many lies and diversionary tactics they have been using.... I think @Carlos Danger has a good knowledge of these matters, but I think the recent interviews need to be watched to see all the lies that this arsehole is telling

I'm sorry I have to go Spike, my better half has been waiting for me and I've got to try and get in my training session of head kicks followed by some salsa and waltz dancing (all true I'm afraid!)

I'll try and be more help tomorrow