AVZ Discussion 2022

[MoneyBags1348]

@MoneyBags1348 or anyone, I'm looking for a document i recall seeing a while ago, of AVZI writing to Cominiere warning them that if they sell the shares to Zijin, they will be breaching the contract.
Does anyone know where I might find this, as well as any other correspondance like AVZ claiming it never recieved notification ect?
Cheers.

EDIT: All good I found it, thanks Mr Money bags for keeping records of all the bullshit here for us

Thanks for letting me know Az, I was just in the middle of looking for it for you, and thanks @Carlos Danger for posting the info.... Saves me time!

 

[Winenut]

Pretty quiet in here for a Friday

To liven things up I think everyone should get on the piss and meet back in a few hours....

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Bags I'm not entirely across his story because I've been working on a few big projects.

If you can leave some bullet points in your corruption thread I will try get across it and create something later. No promises as I'm still flat out.

SPC Baked Beans & Spaghetti don't just materialise all by themselves you know.

Spike it was about this original YouTube interview on JMK Today (I think it was on 17/03/2023) with Celestin Kibeya Kabemba (the acting Managing Director of Cominiere).... Where he told several lies about AVZ and Cominiere



Following the interview @Roon made the following observation:

He's been deeply involved in the corrupt dealings impacting Dathcom. Prior to his role as acting MD given the detainment of his predecessor KIBEYA was Cominiere's Technical Director / Chief Operating Officer. Documentation presented by journalists and civil society actors in 2022 *including minutes of Cominiere board meetings* showed he was one of those involved in orchestrating the Zijin theft of the 15%, for which the deposit has disappeared into various pockets. its believed he was behind the two mysteriously identical yet allegedly independent valuations of the 15% supporting that looting effort by providing documentation undervaluing that in comparison to the DFS data. He's also thought to have existing relations with Zijin through previous links with Kamoa Copper which no doubt helped facilitate their entry into this game - so he should be considered one of the architects of our drama along with the other two Cominiere officials, DG Cami, MOP, etc.

He's also faced accusations over corruption with relation to the United Cominiere / Tantalex case with Eric Allard, with his signature co-signing against various dodgy deeds. Along with other various scandals. He's a corrupt rat through and through and I hope MM does indeed burn him. There's plenty of evidence to support a burning. Various actors in DRC attempted to have him implicated and imprisoned alongside his Cominiere colleagues regarding the irregular transfer to Zijin without success.


Today @Bin59 posted this Twitter link of another interview with this arsehole where he wants Zigin to operate the mine




I was thinking the following things should be highlighted

Cominiere and Zigin have defrauded Dathcom of millions of dollars, including Cominiere embezzling millions of dollars in the transaction

The Inspector General of Finance (Jules Alingete) finds Cominiere's sale of shares to Zigin was illegal and fraudulent

The Managing Director and Technical Director of Cominiere were charged and jailed for illegal fraud and embezzlement of funds relating to the sale of shares to Zigin


Somewhere through the comments and replies to the Tweet by Kiki Kienge about this second interview, @JAG posted a chart showing Zigin's appalling human rights record which would also be good to use

 

[cruiser51]

New hat run - who's in?

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TC.

PS: Sorry - doesn't come in green..

The BoD might claim copyright.

 

[Spikerama]

Spike it was about this original YouTube interview on JMK Today on 17/03/2023 with Celestin Kibeya Kabemba (the acting Managing Director of Cominiere)....



Following the interview @Roon made the following observation:

He's been deeply involved in the corrupt dealings impacting Dathcom. Prior to his role as acting MD given the detainment of his predecessor KIBEYA was Cominiere's Technical Director / Chief Operating Officer. Documentation presented by journalists and civil society actors in 2022 *including minutes of Cominiere board meetings* showed he was one of those involved in orchestrating the Zijin theft of the 15%, for which the deposit has disappeared into various pockets. its believed he was behind the two mysteriously identical yet allegedly independent valuations of the 15% supporting that looting effort by providing documentation undervaluing that in comparison to the DFS data. He's also thought to have existing relations with Zijin through previous links with Kamoa Copper which no doubt helped facilitate their entry into this game - so he should be considered one of the architects of our drama along with the other two Cominiere officials, DG Cami, MOP, etc.

He's also faced accusations over corruption with relation to the United Cominiere / Tantalex case with Eric Allard, with his signature co-signing against various dodgy deeds. Along with other various scandals. He's a corrupt rat through and through and I hope MM does indeed burn him. There's plenty of evidence to support a burning. Various actors in DRC attempted to have him implicated and imprisoned alongside his Cominiere colleagues regarding the irregular transfer to Zijin without success.


Today @Bin59 posted this Twitter link of another (more recent interview) this arsehole did where he wants Zigin to operate the mine




I was thinking the following things should be highlighted

Cominiere and Zigin have defrauded Dathcom of millions of dollars, including Cominiere embezzling millions of dollars in the transaction

The Inspector General of Finance (Jules Alingete) finds Cominiere's sale of shares to Zigin were illegal and fraudulent

The Managing Director and Technical Director of Cominiere were charged and jailed for illegal fraud and embezzlement of funds relating to the sale of shares to Zigin

Very good mate. A couple of things I would note though is that your 3 points at the end to highlight, the first 2 of them have already been highlighted in previous executions. The third is telling a different story to what was exposed in the two posts by Roon and Bin above.

The other thing is Roon's post whilst damning, contains a lot of speculative accusations.

We need to be real sure and have the proof to back it up if we are going to try take him down. Can't just accuse him of being a corrupt rat because he appears to be. Obviously there seems to be his prints and signature all over a few documents so that's a start but what about the interview itself. He seems to not know what's going on or have any facts straight. That's a big problem if you are MD of a company. Maybe there's more in there?

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Very good mate. A couple of things I would note though is that your 3 points at the end to highlight, the first 2 of them have already been highlighted in previous executions. The third is telling a different story to what was exposed in the two posts by Roon and Bin above.

The other thing is Roon's post whilst damning, contains a lot of speculative accusations.

We need to be real sure and have the proof to back it up if we are going to try take him down. Can't just accuse him of being a corrupt rat because he appears to be. Obviously there seems to be his prints and signature all over a few documents so that's a start but what about the interview itself. He seems to not know what's going on or have any facts straight. That's a big problem if you are MD of a company. Maybe there's more in there?

I think I'm just focused on keeping those particular facts in the headlines as Cominiere and Zigin are still trying to divert attention away from these facts as well as lie about other facts

Cominiere and Zigin have defrauded Dathcom of millions of dollars, including Cominiere embezzling millions of dollars in the transaction

The Inspector General of Finance (Jules Alingete) finds Cominiere's sale of shares to Zigin was illegal and fraudulent

The Managing Director and Technical Director of Cominiere were charged and jailed for the illegal and fraudulent transaction with Zigin

Celestin Kibeya Kabemba is a high official in Cominiere, so can be associated with knowledge of the illegal transaction.... He was also at the Dathcom site every day, and there is evidence that Cominiere were aware of AVZ's transactions.... Remember they denied knowledge

So many lies and diversionary tactics they have been using.... I think @Carlos Danger has a good knowledge of these matters, but I think the recent interviews need to be watched to see all the lies that this arsehole is telling

I'm sorry I have to go Spike, my better half has been waiting for me and I've got to try and get in my training session of head kicks followed by some salsa and waltz dancing (all true I'm afraid!)

I'll try and be more help tomorrow

 

[MoneyBags1348]

I think I'm just focused on keeping those particular facts in the headlines as Cominiere and Zigin are still trying to divert attention away from these facts as well as lie about other facts

Cominiere and Zigin have defrauded Dathcom of millions of dollars, including Cominiere embezzling millions of dollars in the transaction

The Inspector General of Finance (Jules Alingete) finds Cominiere's sale of shares to Zigin was illegal and fraudulent

The Managing Director and Technical Director of Cominiere were charged and jailed for the illegal and fraudulent transaction with Zigin

Celestin Kibeya Kabemba is a high official in Cominiere, so can be associated with knowledge of the illegal transaction.... He was also at the Dathcom site every day, and there is evidence that Cominiere were aware of AVZ's transactions.... Remember they denied knowledge

So many lies and diversionary tactics they have been using.... I think @Carlos Danger has a good knowledge of these matters, but I think the recent interviews need to be watched to see all the lies that this arsehole is telling

I'm sorry I have to go Spike, my better half has been waiting for me and I've got to try and get in my training session of head kicks followed by some salsa and waltz dancing (all true I'm afraid!)

I'll try and be more help tomorrow

Stop laughing Nuts I'm fucken serious.... See ya mate

 

[Roon]

Very good mate. A couple of things I would note though is that your 3 points at the end to highlight, the first 2 of them have already been highlighted in previous executions. The third is telling a different story to what was exposed in the two posts by Roon and Bin above.

The other thing is Roon's post whilst damning, contains a lot of speculative accusations.

We need to be real sure and have the proof to back it up if we are going to try take him down. Can't just accuse him of being a corrupt rat because he appears to be. Obviously there seems to be his prints and signature all over a few documents so that's a start but what about the interview itself. He seems to not know what's going on or have any facts straight. That's a big problem if you are MD of a company. Maybe there's more in there?

May be worth reaching out to Marius and Kiki for evidence should you want to push forward - it sounded like they may have the goods.

 

[Pokok]

Pretty quiet in here for a Friday

To liven things up I think everyone should get on the piss and meet back in a few hours....

what did you think i stated without you ,,,yep i did sorryyyyy

 

[Pokok]

Where the fuk is Wiiliam????



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shit you made me study the photo

 

[John25]

For those who dont mind a bet
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[DoubleA]

Isn't the head person in Cominiere good friends with the MoP . He said he will take control of the project and it's finances in the interview. Surely Mr President can see in plain sight the corruption of his employees and stop it from happening.

Felix did not even win the election fairly. Martin Fayalu got more votes but Kabila controlled/rigged the counting so that Felix could get in with the intention of Kabila secretly pulling the strings in the background. Felix is such a slippery snake that he even managed to double cross and betray Kabila! You need to be one slippery cunt to do that. With Felix going around wearing $300k watches I think most of us know deep down what the reality is.

I hope Fayalu or someone with more integrity wins this election. It is really hard to know who has the support. There is not exactly reliable polling or media coverage. Harder still to know if the vote counting will be regulated. I believe the USA showed an interest in "helping" DRC with this last election. I wonder if they may "assist" in this upcoming election.

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

Where the fuk is Wiiliam????



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William had better assume the position because a cock-punch is coming his way.

 

[Samus]

#RDC : New government, the trio for the management of Congolese minerals, renewed by @LukondeSama !
1. Aux @MinMinesRDC: @anskalambayi
2. Au @minportefeuille: the princess
@adelekayinda01
3. @IndustrieRdc: @julienpalukucom

 

[Bray]

Oh fuck off Adele you corrupt fucking incest princess

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

William had better assume the position because a cock-punch is coming his way.

So old mate mate knows nothing - he’s just another huckster injecting himself into the process and adding nothing but noise.

 

[Bray]

#golfclap

 

[MoneyBags1348]

#RDC : New government, the trio for the management of Congolese minerals, renewed by @LukondeSama !
1. Aux @MinMinesRDC: @anskalambayi
2. Au @minportefeuille: the princess
@adelekayinda01
3. @IndustrieRdc: @julienpalukucom

 

[MoneyBags1348]

I think I'm just focused on keeping those particular facts in the headlines as Cominiere and Zigin are still trying to divert attention away from these facts as well as lie about other facts

Cominiere and Zigin have defrauded Dathcom of millions of dollars, including Cominiere embezzling millions of dollars in the transaction

The Inspector General of Finance (Jules Alingete) finds Cominiere's sale of shares to Zigin was illegal and fraudulent

The Managing Director and Technical Director of Cominiere were charged and jailed for the illegal and fraudulent transaction with Zigin

Celestin Kibeya Kabemba is a high official in Cominiere, so can be associated with knowledge of the illegal transaction.... He was also at the Dathcom site every day, and there is evidence that Cominiere were aware of AVZ's transactions.... Remember they denied knowledge

So many lies and diversionary tactics they have been using.... I think @Carlos Danger has a good knowledge of these matters, but I think the recent interviews need to be watched to see all the lies that this arsehole is telling

I'm sorry I have to go Spike, my better half has been waiting for me and I've got to try and get in my training session of head kicks followed by some salsa and waltz dancing (all true I'm afraid!)

I'll try and be more help tomorrow

Zigin…. Second worst record on human rights violations

Chinese company Zigin Mining known world wide for being the second worst of all these companies when it comes to human rights violations, now engaged in illegal and fraudulent violations with Cominiere in the DRC

 

[CashKing]

For those who dont mind a bet
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Wanna go halves in 2min Noodles tonight ?