AVZ Discussion 2022

[Mr Inappropriate]

Haha mate, It's probably fairly accurate. Definitely amusing. But I don't think it's wise to manipulate the images of identifiable individuals in this way.

We don't need to. The truth is strong enough. What has already been highlighted to us by Jules and Triple M works hard enough if you can package it in clear and powerful execution. A lot of the stuff we've already released has been shared on by the locals now so many times. It's unstoppable now. Part of the zeitgeist.

The water has broken.

Well done again @Spikerama for jolting everyone out their slumber with this approach. You’ve probably noticed that locals have also adopted the idea of producing some compelling graphics, example here.


Via back-channels, people were asked to lay off the attacks for a bit - silence since. Is the campaign back on?

 

[tonster66]

Financial report is out

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Haha mate, It's probably fairly accurate. Definitely amusing. But I don't think it's wise to manipulate the images of identifiable individuals in this way.

We don't need to. The truth is strong enough. What has already been highlighted to us by Jules and Triple M works hard enough if you can package it in clear and powerful execution. A lot of the stuff we've already released has been shared on by the locals now so many times. It's unstoppable now. Part of the zeitgeist.

The water has broken.

Totally agree Spike, I’ve removed the posts…. We’ve got plenty on them, it’s just a matter of keeping it in the headlines

To be honest, I’m think Tshisekedi is more worried about what the people getting slaughtered in the north east of the country think of him, and so he should be in my opinion…. but if he’s not going to show support for AVZ after all the work we’ve done and all the corruption we’ve faced, then I suppose he is leaving himself open for criticism.

As @BEISHA has said many times, he ran on a platform of anti-corruption. I know he’s given Jules the power to investigate corruption through commissions and the Director General and Technical Director of Cominiere have been charged with fraud so there’s nothing stopping him from telling the Chinese to fuck off….

Begs the question whether they have something on him, or his family are somehow involved…. Either way he’s not doing himself any favours and before long people in the DRC might start wondering if he’s the man for job

 

[Samus]

Financial report is out

 

[Goat]

See you guys in September 2024... man..

 

[Onthefm]

Off to see the Blues smash the Tigers tonight ...............

Well Jesus we had it won and then. Looks like a draw. Fuck haven't heard that before. But carlton didn't lose. But fuck we where all over them. we had it in our hands. FUCK.

 

[Onthefm]

Blues rule, even without Walsh. Need to double-team that serial masturbator Lynch, and nullify the mercurial Shai Bolton though.

Enjoy the night.

Cheers
F

Your a fucken mind reader . He beat us again. FUCK

 

[Onthefm]

Wife's booked us for 7p:m at our favorite Thai restaurant . Taking the grand kids . Hope they behave themselves . I wonder if Nigel likes Thai food . Reckon he would . I reckon DRC food wouldn't be much chop . Looking forward to the ML dropping before next extension is due .

Well mate that's nice and positive. Well done . old mate will be happy.
Hope the kids behave and have a great night.
The cops might let you scrape though with that one.

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Financial report is out

Just read the report…. It answers every question that people here have been asking but I’ll bet those same people will still be asking the same questions and blaming the same people.

I don’t like speculating but going by the report it looks like Felix is no help and we will be going to arbitration

 

[Goat]

Just read the report…. It answers every fucken question that people here have been asking but I’ll bet those same people will still be asking the same questions and blaming the same people.

I don’t like speculating but going by the report it looks like Felix is no help and we will be going to arbitration, so to those people who are going to be asking the same questions…. Get your bongs and your tissues out and get ready for more of the same

did you read page 24?

 

[ozmacca]

did you read page 24?

I may be reading it wrong after a few beers watching the footy, but it didn't sound pretty....

 

[wombat74]

Well mate that's nice and positive. Well done . old mate will be happy.
Hope the kids behave and have a great night.
The cops might let you scrape though with that one.

Thanks mate . It was a good night . Food was delicious . Bloody hot up here today . More of the same tomorrow I believe . Will enjoy my early morning swims while this hot weather lasts .

 

[MoneyBags1348]

did you read page 24?

Thanks mate, if it’s September that’s probably because Nigel won’t pay Cong the corrupt money he wants

C’est la gare, I’ll be spending my time seeing what I can find to help our cause, not crying over it

 

[Panther22]

Well Jesus we had it won and then. Looks like a draw. Fuck haven't heard that before. But carlton didn't lose. But fuck we where all over them. we had it in our hands. FUCK.

Very disappointed. Have just started where we left off last year, throwing away a winnable game. Several should hang their heads. Looks like we did pre season without a football.

 

[Goat]

Thanks mate, if it’s September that’s probably because Nigel won’t pay Cong the corrupt money he wants

C’est la gare, I’ll be spending my time seeing what I can find to help our cause, not crying over it

I'm hoping it's a typo and actually September 2023 not 2024.

 

[wombat74]

See you guys in September 2024... man..

Look on the bright side at least we will be trading by then . I can see some theatrics here . MoM wants it sorted ASAP . AVZ know they have the winning hand . MoM can either pull the rug on AVZ , Let AVZ have what is rightfully theirs OR let this the Biggest Lithium Deposit in the World stay in the ground for months / years to come making zero $$$ for the benefit of the Nation . Pressure is building and the world is watching .

 

[obe wan]

I'm hoping it's a typo and actually September 2023 not 2024.

Good old Dathomir trying to hot pan out of ICC ; not liking it is say; even trying to get out under lack of jurisdiction.

Award of ML not dependent on these ICC cases in any case

 

[Frank]

Totally agree Spike, I’ve removed the posts…. We’ve got plenty on them, it’s just a matter of keeping it in the headlines

To be honest, I’m think Tshisekedi is more worried about what the people getting slaughtered in the north east of the country think of him, and so he should be in my opinion…. but if he’s not going to show support for AVZ after all the work we’ve done and all the corruption we’ve faced, then I suppose he is leaving himself open for criticism.

As @BEISHA has said many times, he ran on a platform of anti-corruption. I know he’s given Jules the power to investigate corruption through commissions and the Director General and Technical Director of Cominiere have been charged with fraud so there’s nothing stopping him from telling the Chinese to fuck off….

Begs the question whether they have something on him, or his family are somehow involved…. Either way he’s not doing himself any favours and before long people in the DRC might start wondering if he’s the man for job

Chinese contract: 4 organizations whose ODEP and ACAJ support the IGF report and announce judicial actions for justice to be done

The Observatory of Public Expenditure (ODEP), the Congolese Association for Access to Justice (ACAJ), the African Human Rights Defense Association (ASADHO) and the Economic Governance and Democracy network (REGED ) read, this Wednesday, March 1, a joint declaration relating to the report of the General Inspectorate of Finance on the Chinese contract.

Signed in 2008 between the DRC and a group of Chinese companies, this contract on which the Sicomines was born (companies held 68% by the companies of China and 32% by the Gecamines) contains, in its terms, the Commitment of the Congolese State to provide the deposits and the other party, financial means for the exploitation of mines.

This, with the obligation for Chinese companies to raise funds for infrastructure in the DRC.

The 4 civil society organizations, aligning behind the IGF report, regret that in 15 years since the signing of this convention, the DRC has lost tens of billions without any visible infrastructure results.

While criticizing the complacency with which the public authorities have negotiated this convention, these structures, according to the declaration read by Professor Florimond Muteba of the ACAJ, say also "that the Chinese party has won at least more than five times income Hoped to start the project, without any consideration up to the profits garnered ”.

ODEP, ACAJ, ASADHO and REGED call the President of the Republic, but also the Government as well as courts not to leave the economic crimes committed in the context of this convention.

For these structures, it would also be necessary to "undertake the revisation of this contract taking into account the damage and losses suffered by the DRC, failing to suspend and even cancel this agreement, or even nationalize the Sicomines".

“Apart from this press point, we will work on legal actions.

In the coming days, we, civil society organizations, together with the Congolese, we will take care of, challenge national and international judicial institutions.

Anyone who has any responsibility in this debacle will be cited and made available to justice, "said Maître Georges Kapiamba, president of the ACAJ.

In addition, they denounce all the harsh criticisms against the IGF after the publication of this report.

Civil society, like Congolese citizens in general, must support and encourage the IGF, they said.

mediacongo

 

[Spikerama]

Thanks mate, if it’s September that’s probably because Nigel won’t pay Cong the corrupt money he wants

C’est la gare, I’ll be spending my time seeing what I can find to help our cause, not crying over it

Never mind folks. Life could be worse.

Imagine being an egg.
Get laid once.
Get smashed once.
And the only bird to sit on your face is your mum.

 

[Charbella]

AVZI remains of the view that it will be successful in the Dathomir proceedings. An award in both proceedings is unlikely to occur before September 2024.

I think we need to pay attention to the word award, as we are seeking to recover losses sustained from Dathomir. How much are we claiming? If it’s significant then I wouldn’t be surprised if it will not occur before September 2024.

First Quantum launched ICC arbitration in Feb 2010, and only reached $1.2billion settlement in Jan 2012.