AVZ Discussion 2022
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CashKing
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You crazy bro…. Like fuck management are going to provide an update on our situation…That’s just silly talk….
Better of asking the media buddy..
That’s how we get our info in this RAT FUCK COMPANY TWISTED SHIT SHOW….
GLTAH
Samus
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And drill results.
Fucken drill results!
Hopefully it's not the great drill results giveaway...
Fuck me congratulations of having the patience to actually write that .and thanks for informing me that in the last 3 years the nige has been in country 7 months of them . Oh well done. Hip hip what a wank.imo‘You can ask my women what they have to say in this connection’.... ‘Dick pictures’....you sound like a real catch .
I'm pretty sure, you were also the first to run out of the hedge screaming ‘nigel isn't in the DRC’ when Marius said he was in Kinshasa and NF was ready to return to Kinshasa’ ... Nigel has been in DRC for around 3 weeks now; he was back in Oz for a short stint prior to that...where was he before that? ..he was in DRC; did you know, believe it or not, Nigel spent around 7 months in DRC last year too; sometimes I do have to pull my eyeballs back down into their correct position, as they flip to focus on the inside of the top of my skull when reading regurgitated statements ‘management should be in DRC’ / ‘Management are doing nothing ‘ ..... When the opposite is;where the truth is.
I think the case has been, that Management have strictly followed a hard legal path and by doing the right thing,that eventually they’d weather the corruption storm and break out the other end....this tact may indeed prove true, but corruption content has proved to be high within a system which they’ve tried to guide their way through and so it's proving to be a very drawn out process indeed.....
We know that AVZ have had several meetings between late June to November ; the conclusion of these meetings should have resulted in a summary report of these meeting....( anyone that was in attendance, at the road shows in early Novemeber would certainly have noticed NFs confidence that the ML was about to pop) ..what sort of reporting was served up, to be signed off in mid to late November? Answer a plate of shite, a report that was bias towards AVZ, it's contents excluded proposals of infrastruture investments and so forth ; AVZ declined go sign that report, as it was a false representation of their intents...did MoP expect AVZ to sign it on review..she’d obviously would have liked AVZ to have swallowed that pill, after 6 months of burning time, MoP had compiled an unsignable report which was to be submitted to the head of state...AVZ didn't sign; but we were still in stuck in MoPs wear them down with time plan; we were still stuck in the damp trenches and pushing forward by keeping quite and letting the legal system work it all out ; corrupt individuals and even more so, when supported by other corrupt individuals in a system, do not follow the law all the way down the track ; they will deviate from it in order to try and reach their goal; so there's a lot of one step forward and two steps back and visa versa, in how AVZ have been tracking.
Ministers are appointed for a reason; they’re the equivalent of any managerial team within any company ; they control various departments , as the CEO can't be expected to run each and every department by him/herself ; ministers are trusted with doing their jobs without the requirement for presidential intervention...problem is that now MoP has a red light on her head, and a number of other ministers, including the PM have fallen under the spotlight ; Felix was never going to come running through the door swinging the sword in the first few months ; remember meetings which were to be arranged between FT, Marius / AVZ we're effectively scuttled before dates were even penciled in by the distractors
FT trusted his ministers, the ICF report started to dismantle the MoP ; the unsigned summary report and reasons why it never arrive....who knows , maybe even why it had , but only arrive half baked ( without AVZ signature) but advised to read , is likely to have opened up some further kinks in her armour.
The MoM’s withdrawal of the decrees on the 6th of Feb -’urgency, harmonious, healthy cooperation’ has basically pulled the hand break on the long legal zombie walk. As Marius has said MoM, was not associated with the irregular sale of the 15%, she knew of the sale of the 15% but couldn't take any action due to ‘coordination problems’.
We know that the case against comminere was agreed to be withdraw by both AVZ and Cominiere at least from lumbumbashi court a week or two after the Feb 6th decree ; so fair call, (considering that management have also been in DRC for the bulk of the time between the decree and and now) , is that parties have come to the table to work towards a conclusion, from where id assume another report will be ( has been?) generated, but in this case it's not being selectively compiled by MoP; these discussions will be accounting how we have gotten to this point in time ; how things haven't moved along so smoothly.
I don’t think FT is anti AVZ, I do think that it would have been difficult for him to start countering decisions made by his ministers, as it would clearly point to dysfunction / corruption within a government led by him. Marius is respected with the DRC, him speaking publically on TV twice last week would have tenderised some of those feelings of respect apparently many within the public have towards MoM.
AVZ following the correct part ( maybe not as effective in DRC ), and followed the mining code to a tee ; Marius Mihigo and Christain Lukusa ( highly respected by FT) leading the way, but with highlighting grit which makes things a hell of a lot easier for FT to act on
AVZ were already in the DRC well before you lost your load on the footpath @Schemozzle. What day was the Marius Mihigo broadcast shot? Where in Kinshasa and when was the NF and JC ‘men in black’ shot taken? Some say a large meeting was scheduled the week before, only for the Macron visit which pushed things out....i wonder if a follow up visit happened.
politico pulling articles and a number of old AFR Avz related tweets getting deleted is also interesting FWIW
Well, aren't you the fucking bluebird of happiness.
I suppose at least adding a some derision and insulting a fellow poster in addition to having whinge about how long the BoD have been in the DRC is different to the usual just whinging about how long the BoD have been in the DRC.
FFS, give it a rest.
obe wan
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'We can't do a thing to stop that.....so why would you put it out there on the public forum'
well, if you think that Chinese and co haven't thought about any potential avenue then you are just living in hope / denial; the 51% avenue or how psychology 'prepping and lubing shareholders' is just everyday available mechanisms available on the market ; market is probably 90% psychology and a decent percentage on these forums could explain the 51%er in about 5 seconds, it's certainly not a secret formula
Can you point me to a more suitable forum to which it would be better to discuss such market related things...?
"I want something from management...
I want something from management...
I want something from management...
I want something from management...
I want something from management...
I want something from management"
pineapple pineapple pineapple .....
I reckon it's this sort of shit that stresses people out a fair more than what I posted as opposed to potential avenues of movement against a stock which I'm heavily invested in, so maybe a solution would be just to block my posts; there's a couple of crates of pineapple hecklers in my ignore pantry, (I found them seriously irritating and I reckon it was tapping on my stress levels) so that's another avenue.
Dom has already stated the reasons as to why it would be a bit of work for the Chinese to be successful in that avenue; it would also result in those initial shares being sold off needing to be accumulated pretty quickly and a bit of whipsawing , so those lows may not last too long at all .... this line maybe more palatable
I'll tell you what since you got 20 likes for what you wrote, I'll delete that post for you.
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TheCount
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@MoneyBags1348 I actually think those sneaky Chinese have invented an updated message receiving device - you know mind control and all that.. Here is the version used early on :-
Cheers,
TC.
Not sure why you have been crucified for sharing a opinion, this is a public forum, sharing opinions good or bad is what its all about.....
The corrupt chinese and DRC officials are the ones " lubing " shareholders, not @obe wan sharing a opinion as to what potentially could happen when AVZ finally opens up for trade.
I believe their have been several chats in the past here about scenarios that could happen on that topic.
Bull or Bear will happen regardless of what is said at TSE, HC or where ever else.
Share market is shit again today, MACRO is crap, the 11th biggest bank in the US hit the skids.........SP for AVZ remains steady !!
imo
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Winenut
Go AVZ!
Maybe crucified was a little dramaticNot sure why you have been crucified for sharing a opinion, this is a public forum, sharing opinions good or bad is what its all about.....
The corrupt chinese and DRC officials are the ones " lubing " shareholders, not @obe wan sharing a opinion as to what potentially could happen when AVZ finally opens up for trade.
I believe their have been several chats in the past here about scenarios that could happen on that topic.
Bull or Bear will happen regardless of what is said at TSE, HC or where ever else.
Share market is shit again today, MACRO is crap, the 11th biggest bank in the US hit the skids.........SP for AVZ remains steady !!
imo
Certainly well kicked and accused of shit here but also on the "other" forum
The whole frustrating situation can be put to bed pretty simply with some basic information provided by management in an official announcement
Hopefully that comes sooner rather than later and yep .....the market is a shocker again today!!
Winenut
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Bit hard to understand exactly what is being said with the auto translate
Might have just been filling in temporarily for the meeting?
Well I hope Nige was waiting out the front with a pen. One quick signature from the 'acting' MoP and we off to the races.
I know who had a crack at you here and what topic...........unfair it was and BS.Maybe crucified was a little dramatic
Certainly well kicked and accused of shit here but also on the "other" forum
The whole frustrating situation can be put to bed pretty simply with some basic information provided by management in an official announcement
Hopefully that comes sooner rather than later and yep .....the market is a shocker again today!!
Who gives a rats what the " other " forum had to say, full of scumbags not worth conversing with!!
I am pretty sure i speak for many folk here and say i enjoy your humour , your candidness, so stop worrying about what others think, just continue being you.....
This shit house scenario that has been playing out for the last 10 months has everyone on edge, until as you rightfully say, management cool our nerves with some positive official announcements.
Until then..........
MoneyBags1348
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TC you seem to have pretty good internet connection on that secret island you're on.... Going by that picture it looks like you're using one of Elon's new satellite connections. You know I was taking a week off and here you are mentioning me in your post.... I knew I was pushing things a little when I kept referring to your torn retina as a torn rectum and I see you are now having your revenge
Nice!!As far as the Chinese, too many people on here seem to have forgotten that they are the real enemy, not our exec's and BOD, it's
Boatman and Tommy
Zigin, Huayou, Lithium Plus and possibly Yibin
Cong, Eckhof (Jerkoff), Eric Allard (Tantalex) and a few DRC politicians
I'm sick of the constant winging on here by the people who don't even do any research, and don't put any energy into helping other shareholders and the company.... try aiming your vitriol at those in the list above, not our company
I'm so fucken sick of the wingers on here, don't expect me to reply to anyone.... Password change imminent
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obe wan: don't take what others say to heart I, and no doubt many others have a lot of respect for you. So much of what you post is of a very high standed and is very much appreciated.
Green dragon still appeared on the screen, just didn't get a Guernsey.
Winenut
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We've all played nicely over the last week on social media at the apparent request of the AVZ team
We haven't heard anything and there's been no update from management about any outcomes from whatever meetings or negotiations may have been happening
Are we still in "play nice" mode and for how long???
I'd hate to think the campaign against corruption that was obviously working has been silenced
I agree with old Moneybags keeping the spotlight on the enemy and their corrupt actions is one of the useful avenues open to us
I'm happy to continue highlighting the "positives" that AVZ can bring to the DRC table (which is a useful tool as well) but I can't help but think the corruption angle was really getting traction and hitting the mark hard
We haven't heard anything and there's been no update from management about any outcomes from whatever meetings or negotiations may have been happening
Are we still in "play nice" mode and for how long???
I'd hate to think the campaign against corruption that was obviously working has been silenced
I agree with old Moneybags keeping the spotlight on the enemy and their corrupt actions is one of the useful avenues open to us
I'm happy to continue highlighting the "positives" that AVZ can bring to the DRC table (which is a useful tool as well) but I can't help but think the corruption angle was really getting traction and hitting the mark hard
Remark
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We played nice for a week - game on, unleash the @Spikerama lion!
John25
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Totally with you Winenut. My understanding was that the President's mantra was to rid the place of corruption. The more educated and vocal his voting population becomes on topics of corruption, human rights, etc, the more likely all of this becomes relevant for his re-election. Educate the DRC and let them decide to kick the Chinese out.
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