AVZ Discussion 2022

[cruiser51]

Maybe I'm over thinking this but:

I wonder if FT is playing a very big and very long game?

The US had been around for months publicly. Anyone on these threads has seen posts about them, FT and Biden etc, etc.

I would posit that it's a relationship that has been building for much longer and is much further advanced than public announcements would imply.

So if he let's the yanks in before the elections then they will require certain cast iron guarantees about all sorts of things which would make it impossible for a future government to renege.

Additionally, they would want agreements around security. The best way to guarantee your own security is to provide it yourself. That's what armed forces are for.

If there was some US military presence it may help stabilise the rebel areas, though the whole country seems like the wild west to me. Win for FT with little effort.

It would also allow the US to claim DRC as theirs in this global push for dominance over our Chinese friends.
Chinese have done it with the Solomon Islands for example.

If any of this conjecture is anywhere near to being accurate then it may help explain the threats to DRC from Z and the Chinese Embassy dicking themselves recently.
As I said, I see those actions as reflecting a perception of their own weakness by the Chinese.

Maybe I'm over thinking this.
Or dreaming.

An interesting view of an analyst:

 

[obe wan]

I have good authority (obe wan) that the ICC arbitration hearings are scheduled for April 2023.

I originally thought it was May, based on Tom Richardson's information. How stupid (Note to self: gouge out eyes with a stick).

Cheers
F

AFR also have it down as April

 

[Winenut]

AFR also have it down as April View attachment 30027

Fuck me...do Zijin, Boatman, Tommy and the whole AFR just have a fucking trust fund or something set up to finance this shit???

It's almost like the AFR is fully manipulated and financed by Chinese interests......

What a grub you would be and feel working for an organisation like that

 

[investinvest]

Just in case these interest anyone:

Cominiere and Dathomir 2016 JV agreement:

ResourceContracts.org - COMINIÈRE, Dathomir Mining Resources SARL, 2016

An online repository of publicly available oil, gas, and mining contracts. The repository features plain language summaries of each contract’s key social, environmental, human rights, fiscal, and operational terms, and tools for searching and comparing contracts.

www.resourcecontracts.org

Cominiere and Jin Cheng 2017 JV agreement (2021 amendment) for PE12453 and PE13247 in Tanganyika:

ResourceContracts.org - Congolaise d'Exploitation Minière Commère, Jin Cheng Mining Limited, Amendment, 2021

An online repository of publicly available oil, gas, and mining contracts. The repository features plain language summaries of each contract’s key social, environmental, human rights, fiscal, and operational terms, and tools for searching and comparing contracts.

www.resourcecontracts.org

And Klaus Eckhof's email address on page 6 of this document (SOKIMO and AJN Resources 2020 MOU) in case anyone wants to contact him:

ResourceContracts.org - SOKIMO, AJN Resources Inc, MOU, 2020

An online repository of publicly available oil, gas, and mining contracts. The repository features plain language summaries of each contract’s key social, environmental, human rights, fiscal, and operational terms, and tools for searching and comparing contracts.

www.resourcecontracts.org

DYOR

 

[JAG]

Yeah I agree. I will do that. I'm still fiddling with it trying to get it better optimised for mobile. Also working on something else.

Do we have an exact date yet for ICC?

Revenus manqués en RDC

Calcule quotidiennement le revenu que la RDC a perdu depuis l'émission du décret pour la licence minière AVZ/Manono

spikerama.github.io

Sensational work mate

 

[investinvest]

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DRC has no qualms about sourcing information from "Australia Government's Future Batteries Industry CRC" but refusing to follow the law with a corruption-free Australian company.

Not sure how accurate that slide is. Albemarle has no interest or asset in Africa:

Global Locations

www.albemarle.com

Same goes with Vale, no asset or interest in Africa:

Mining - Vale

Mining of iron and pellets, nickel, copper, manganese and ferroalloys. At Vale, we work with raw materials essential for modern life. Learn more.

www.vale.com

And in case anyone is wondering which company has the green logo next to BHP, it's Jinchuan Mining.

DYOR

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

Jesus Don't tell me they are going to give Manono to Albemarle now. I wouldn't put it past these corrupt pricks. In all seriousness though all relationships in drc for avz seem to have soured under the weight of the corrupt government. Even the battery council now by the looks of it.

DRC has no qualms about sourcing information from "Australia Government's Future Batteries Industry CRC" but refusing to follow the law with a corruption-free Australian company.

Not sure how accurate that slide is. Albemarle has no interest or asset in Africa:

Global Locations

www.albemarle.com

Same goes with Vale, no asset or interest in Africa:

Mining - Vale

Mining of iron and pellets, nickel, copper, manganese and ferroalloys. At Vale, we work with raw materials essential for modern life. Learn more.

www.vale.com

And in case anyone is wondering which company has the green logo next to BHP, it's Jinchuan Mining.

DYOR

#FollowTheFuckingLaw
#FreeDathcom

Edit: Repeat incessently on Twitter.

 

[Samus]

Revenus manqués en RDC

Calcule quotidiennement le revenu que la RDC a perdu depuis l'émission du décret pour la licence minière AVZ/Manono

spikerama.github.io

Sensational work mate

Agreed, best weapon in the shareholders arsenal and it's catching on


Our authorities, Our evils. Day for day, the DRC loses millions of Usd against $AVZ . Mrs Minister @anskalambayi
Mrs Minister @minportefeuille
Who will bear the consequences in the event of arbitration? My rep: it's not china

spikerama.github.io
Revenus manqués en RDC

 

[Frank]

Fucken head is about to explode. I got HTML coming out of every orifice right now.


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Ticking away nicely on my Windows 7 Desktop atm Spike - Well done !

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Just logged in to see it still ticking away nicely, Growing by the Hour each Day

When are they going to wake up and smell the Roses / Coffee / Lithium ffs !

Fyi, Forgot to mention i use Firefox on this old clunker / desktop

Food for thought

Frank

 

[Thaz]

This is why i love this forum.

No-way, would this have been able to start and gain traction on the Hot-crapper.

Fantastic work everyone.

As i have mentioned to some people here, there are a lot of groups working against AVZ (from Zijin, to corrupt officials, to paid-off news articles, etc). While it is always preferable and ideal to have the AVZ sort everything out. I think that everynow and then, they may need some support from us, whether it be to voicing our opinions with the relevant officials, or to try and gain media attention to the issues at hand through the succinct counter.

It doesn't hurt - and it only works to keep those affected in the loop of the detriment to their economy from this project not going under the way.

Stay strong everyone.

 

[Samus]

 

[CashKing]

Didn't include Ivanhoe or Zijin either , so I wouldn't read too much into it . Albermarle can buy us out .

Or Glencore….

 

[Frank]

This is why i love this forum.

No-way, would this have been able to start and gain traction on the Hot-crapper.

Fantastic work everyone.

As i have mentioned to some people here, there are a lot of groups working against AVZ (from Zijin, to corrupt officials, to paid-off news articles, etc). While it is always preferable and ideal to have the AVZ sort everything out. I think that every now and then, they may need some support from us, whether it be to voicing our opinions with the relevant officials, or to try and gain media attention to the issues at hand through the succinct counter.

It doesn't hurt - and it only works to keep those affected in the loop of the detriment to their economy from this project not going under the way.

Stay strong everyone.

 

[Flight996]

AFR also have it down as April View attachment 30027

Ref AFR dated Dec 12, 2022

Tom Richardson said

The Zijin dispute is set for arbitration in May. AVZ is in another legal fight against a company called Dathomir Mining in the Congo.

However, the consensus from much more knowledgeable people is April 2023.

 

[TDITD]

My thoughtful and reasoned response

 

[cruiser51]

Just logged in to see it still ticking away nicely, Growing by the Hour each Day

When are they going to wake up and smell the Roses / Coffee / Lithium ffs !


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Fyi, Forgot to mention i use Firefox on this old clunker / desktop

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Food for thought

Frank

Wheel, wheel, wheel, the longer it takes, the higher it gets.

Looks like the DRC has the luxury to afford this greed and utter stupidity, or is it just the greedy DRC elite?

 

[Bin59]

The ambitious value chain project around electric batteries is at the heart of all international meetings.

The European Union no longer wants thermal motor vehicles by 2035, the United States signed in December with the DRC and Zambia, India discovered important Lithium deposits in the Cahemire, Mexico has nationalised its Lithium, the DRC has just set up the facilitators of the Congolese Battery Council which will be led by DG LECOUTURIER DENIS seconded by KAKULE VUKO all supervised with

This morning of Sunday, February 19, 2023 in Addis Ababa, with 54 diplomatic missions under the facilitation of Ambassador Ngandu, in the presence of the Zambian Minister of Trade and Industry, the Minister of Commerce of the DRC, Nicole BWATSHA (DRC Presidency), of the N.U Economic Commission for Africa, we rolled out the steps taken and those to come for 2023-2024

A vision for truly sovereign Africa,

Economically independent and resilient.
Hakainde Hichilema and Félix Tshisekedi invite us all there.

$7 trillion is the market in 2030 and $46 billion in 2050.

The industrialisation of Africa is The royal way to seize this gigantic market.

BATTERY INDUSTRY SE Mr Julien PALUKU KAHONGYA

Minister of Industry ROC

 

[Spikerama]

Just logged in to see it still ticking away nicely, Growing by the Hour each Day

When are they going to wake up and smell the Roses / Coffee / Lithium ffs !


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Fyi, Forgot to mention i use Firefox on this old clunker / desktop

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Food for thought

Frank

Cheers for the tech report Frank.

 

[Frank]

Cheers for the tech report Frank.

 

[Misfits]

Cheers for the tech report Frank.

Not sure why different figure to Frank. Mine is ticking over but lower value.