AVZ Discussion 2022

[DoubleA]

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

I don’t want us sitting at the negotiation table when we are in the right, surrounded by bad faith actors who bring only pineapples and pain.

“If you have been in a poker game for a while, and you still don’t know who the patsy is, you’re the patsy.”

 

[Xerof]

I think this guy should go in to bat for us - he clearly knows what is going on

 

[Carlos Danger]

I don’t want us sitting at the negotiation table when we are in the right, surrounded by bad faith actors who bring only pineapples and pain.

“If you have been in a poker game for a while, and you still don’t know who the patsy is, you’re the patsy.”

Mate we hold the absolute nuts. Nigel should agree to a round table and check raise the bad faith actors into oblivion.

If management can't handle the pressure of this sort of meeting with the legal position they have then they should get out of the way for someone that can imo

 

[Xerof]

I'm not sure I like MofM being included beside that Kunt - it infers more than I was expecting.

I see Felix the big cat is expecting Lukonde to 'reshuffle' his government to rid it of amongst other things, corruption. The problem is, he and the princess seem to be in the same bed

 

[CHB]

Imagine holding a round table of all parties after like 9 months in suspension. Is that the best they've got lol.

Could of done it 6 months ago

 

[Onthefm]

Imagine holding a round table of all parties after like 9 months in suspension. Is that the best they've got lol.

Could of done it 6 months ago

The time to do the deal was the minute cong wanted to reneg. We'd be building a mine now. With construction progress reports to read not this shit. But I think its to late for a brokered deal now everyone has dug in their heals. So it's the icc but christ only knows how long that will be And If we can afford to hang on that long.

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

Mate we hold the absolute nuts. Nigel should agree to a round table and check raise the bad faith actors into oblivion.

If management can't handle the pressure of this sort of meeting with the legal position they have then they should get out of the way for someone that can imo

I want you to be right Carlos - I really do. However, (and to keep the cards analogy going):

Sure, we hold the aces (good legal title; mining code followed to a 'T'), but the other players brought their own decks and are playing to their own rules. They are even passing eachother cards under the table to make sure we lose.

They've had the chance to play by the house rules and have shown that they would rather cheat for their own mutual benefit. I dont see an incentive for them to change their behaviour in the context of a round-table. Futher, it provides those corrupt players with legitimacy at a time when when they should be paraded through the streets in orange jump-suits.

 

[John25]

Welcome to Week 34 of suspension Holders …think the gif says it ALL with the BoD being the 4 & us the 3 …still in “cone of Silence” nothing being thrown at us news wise …so everything in DRC must be super sensitive or 2 fucks cant be given by our board (where ever they are )

 

[Carlos Danger]

I want you to be right Carlos - I really do. However, (and to keep the cards analogy going):

Sure, we hold the aces (good legal title; mining code followed to a 'T'), but the other players brought their own decks and are playing to their own rules. They are even passing eachother cards under the table to make sure we lose.

They've had the chance to play by the house rules and have shown that they would rather cheat for their own mutual benefit. I dont see an incentive for them to change their behaviour in the context of a round-table. Futher, it provides those corrupt players with legitimacy at a time when when they should be paraded through the streets in orange jump-suits.

Yeah I agree with your sentiment but it's time to force the DRC government's hand. If we get beat on the river so be it. Worst case scenario we cut a deal and have 51% of an operating mine. Better than drifting on endlessly in suspension imo

 

[Mickyb64]

Yeah I agree with your sentiment but it's time to force the DRC government's hand. If we get beat on the river so be it. Worst case scenario we cut a deal and have 51% of an operating mine. Better than drifting on endlessly in suspension imo

My concern is that by the time these corrupt idiots in the DRC sort out their shit, Lithium might be old technology. There's always something new on the horizon.

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

My concern is that by the time these corrupt idiots in the DRC sort out their shit, Lithium might be old technology. There's always something new on the horizon.

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It scares the shit out of me...

 

[TDITD]

My concern is dying before we get the ML

 

[Rediah]

Last year around this time when I invested in AVZ and I was like why didn’t I invest earlier

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Today….

 

[Rediah]

My concern is that by the time these corrupt idiots in the DRC sort out their shit, Lithium might be old technology. There's always something new on the horizon.

Even if there is new technology or new rare earth metal that will replace lithium, before it’s deploy as easily as lithium it has to be tested and will need new infrastructure, meets industry standards health and safety etc.

Like hydrogen, easily available but is it viable , manufacturing, storage, transportation etc etc .

In saying that, we can’t just sit around and let AVZ/Zijin play it’s waiting games.

 

[Carlos Danger]

My concern is that by the time these corrupt idiots in the DRC sort out their shit, Lithium might be old technology. There's always something new on the horizon.

Even if there is new technology or new rare earth metal that will replace lithium, before it’s deploy as easily as lithium it has to be tested and will need new infrastructure, meets industry standards health and safety etc.

Like hydrogen, easily available but is it viable , manufacturing, storage, transportation etc etc .

In saying that, we can’t just sit around and let AVZ/Zijin play it’s waiting games.

Apart from new technologies my biggest concern is new lithium deposits being found. Something we could be also doing if we were producing. In particular new deposits around Manono. Our tenement is extra valuable because it is currently the only one in the DRC.

We need to give Tshisekedi a chance to have the ministers reshuffled and for the prosecutor's to act on the IGF's report. But if we don't see movement soon then having a meeting with all parties involved would be the best move by management imo

If Felix wants to sit in a room and tell Jules Alingete to his face 'yeah I don't give a fuck about your report I'm rewarding the people that you are accusing of corruption' then good luck to him. If that is going to be the final outcome then there is no point delaying the inevitable.

 

[Hemicuda]

Apart from new technologies my biggest concern is new lithium deposits being found. Something we could be also doing if we were producing. In particular new deposits around Manono. Our tenement is extra valuable because it is currently the only one in the DRC.

We need to give Tshisekedi a chance to have the ministers reshuffled and for the prosecutor's to act on the IGF's report. But if we don't see movement soon then having a meeting with all parties involved would be the best move by management imo

If Felix wants to sit in a room and tell Jules Alingete to his face 'yeah I don't give a fuck about your report I'm rewarding the people that you are accusing of corruption' then good luck to him. If that is going to be the final outcome then there is no point delaying the inevitable.

perhaps we need another roadshow

 

[John25]

Remember this time last year LTH …oh those were the days…so young /innocent & naive …Hanging off every word uttered by our MD Nigel …we were a trusting bunch back then

 

[Hemicuda]

Remember this time last year LTH …oh those were the days…so young /innocent & naive …Hanging off every word uttered by our MD Nigel …we were a trusting bunch back then
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When do we get our token, condescending, New years shareholder tweet thanking us for our support? I personally can't wait till tomorrow

 

[Flight996]

Apart from new technologies my biggest concern is new lithium deposits being found. Something we could be also doing if we were producing. In particular new deposits around Manono. Our tenement is extra valuable because it is currently the only one in the DRC.

We need to give Tshisekedi a chance to have the ministers reshuffled and for the prosecutor's to act on the IGF's report. But if we don't see movement soon then having a meeting with all parties involved would be the best move by management imo

If Felix wants to sit in a room and tell Jules Alingete to his face 'yeah I don't give a fuck about your report I'm rewarding the people that you are accusing of corruption' then good luck to him. If that is going to be the final outcome then there is no point delaying the inevitable.

Hi Carlos

If new Li deposits are found in the DRC, whether around Manono or elsewhere, it's not necessarily a bad thing. All industries benefit from competition. It makes their companies focus acutely on their core business activities and contractual obligations, and in the process squeeze out redundant costs and expenses. There may also be an opportunity to share facilities, or even toll process ore.
Perversely, it may also have the advantage of directing unwanted and corrupt attention towards the newcomer, rather than AVZ (Although I think the big internationally focused behemoths such as Glencore, BHP and Rio may be a bit too street savvy for the usual corrupt DRC troglodytes).

Cheers
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