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Tezza said:

Agree, however it won't be a research chip forever. We are yet to see widespread commercial uptake and time is running out. We are talking a good game but are we starting to loose to competitors?

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Labsy said:

I only see this as a positive. Mb playing with Intel and advertising neuromorphic is great new. We are clearly in the top 3. Brainchip, Intel, IBM as far as investors are concerned....
It will be positive on our SP. Watch the chart next week....this is my prediction.

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Esq.111 said:

Good Morning Chippers,

Feeling a little Bullish today .

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Regards,
Esq.

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7für7 said:

It seems to me that Mercedes is choosing ‘Intel’ purely for image reasons. After all, their ‘all-electric’ policy has led to significant losses, which have forced them to rethink their strategy. Now they have to promote a collaboration with a tech giant to create a ‘wow’ effect. Those who don’t know that they are light years behind our developments are easily impressed. I just hope this doesn’t affect our stock… However, we are still involved in the Intel program, and it’s unclear to what extent. Personally, I don’t care what Mercedes does, as we probably won’t generate high revenues with them, but they are good for prestige. And I just know this is more fodder for bashers and trolls.

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Bravo said:

I don't think so @Tezza.

You have to remember that the above article is in reference to Mercedes utilising Loihi 2 for one research project as Markus Shafer confirmed n his Linkedin post.

If you recall, Mercedes engineers worked with BrainChip on systems (plural). We know one of those systems was for voice control (key word spotting), but we don't know what the other systems were. Hopefully, we'll find out soon because Mercedes also said at the time, these systems will be available in a few years time, which means it should be very soon and, as has been mentioned multiple times, Loihi 2 is still a research chip and not commercially available as yet.


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SharesForBrekky said:

How I'm seeing this play out, is that Brainchip, Intel and all other competitors in the neuromorphic space are on the neuromorphic wheel, and they're using each other to help push and keep this wheel in motion.

Slowly but surely this wheel is starting to gain momentum and companies like Mercedes are amongst the first to get on this wheel and help increase this momentum.

In other words, they all need each other and the different strengths they possess for the neuromorphic technology to evolve, succeed and hopefully lead to World domination!

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7für7 said:

Of course, in the end, it’s a collaboration and a mutual learning process. However, every company has its own motives and interests that it represents. They are far from being a charitable organization. Personally, I’m not worried about this news from MB (as I already mentioned above), especially because it’s a research project. Everyone can form their own opinion. I stand by my view that it was announced purely for image purposes since MB has been researching with Intel for some time. A positive refresh always goes down well with investors. DYOR.

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GDJR69 said:

The cynical part of me says that MB just want a press release with 'Intel' on it but then will quietly use Akida because it is the superior product. If they don't know that already and all we've been told is true then they will soon find it out. Either way, it's not a bad outcome for us. What we need though is another public endorsement of Akida by MB or another party asap.

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Stable Genius said:

Just a random comment on Intel and MB.

It’s well documented Intel are having massive issues right now. They just laid of 15,000? staff to reduce overheads.

If it wasn’t for the Chips Act billions $$$ to build fabs they would be in even worse shape but luckily for them American Government is going to keep them afloat to guarantee a way to manufacture chips locally to reduce reliance on being supplied from Taiwan.

Given all of their bad press you would think if Intel had a winner with their Loihi they would be promoting it as loudly as they could to at least give the impression to their shareholders etc they had a new path to success. I am not saying there is no promotion but it’s not massive.

The lack of promotion of Loihi; given the current edge AI surge indicates to me they are not ready yet. For whatever reason they have not reached the threshold to be commercial. I‘m guessing it‘s a quality control; eg. it’s not working well enough for that to occur.

So I’m still inclined to think MB will be sticking with the product (Akida) whether hardware or software variation because they have already done significant work on it and they have proven it works. So that article about Nomoi4 research project has nothing to do with MB upcoming vehicle release. I don’t blame MB for doing their due diligence and testing other technologies. This is also part of a Government supported project so there are probably incentives to go with the larger well known company than a relatively unknown one. MB had obviously already completed a full assessement and comparison before choosing Akida in their prototype vehicle a few years back.

They are only months away from releasing the 2025 model so I would think it’s a bit late at this stage to change an integral part of their system.

My opinion only and I could be wrong but I’m suggesting CES2025 will have MB showcasing their new car (as they do every year) and we might get a mention in their MBOS as we did several years ago. Who knows we might even see an ASX announcement for a contract and maybe some revenue!

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JB49 said:

Mike Davies from Intel has talked about their commercialisation strategy. See following link from 9.00

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Bravo said:

Mercedes taps Intel Loihi2 for neuromorphic AI

Mercedes is using the Intel Liohi 2 for neuromorphic computing to improve the performance of forward-facing automotive radar systems.

www.eenewseurope.com

Mercedes taps Intel Liohi2 for neuromorphic AI​

Technology News | October 14, 2024
By Nick Flaherty
Automotive AI

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Mercedes is leading a project in Germany to use neuromorphic computing to improve the performance of forward-facing automotive radar systems.​

Mercedes is using the Intel Liohi 2 neuromorphic event-driven AI processor in the Naomi4radar project, says Markus Schäfer, Member of the Board of Management of Mercedes-Benz Group and Chief Technology Officer for Development & Procurement. Using neuromorphic, event driven algorithms and processors can increase the speed of response of the radar systems, he says.

The project is funded by the German Federal Ministry for Economic Affairs and Climate Action to assess how neuromorphic computing can be used to optimise the processing of radar data in automated driving systems.

Mercedes is also working with Karlsruhe University of Applied Sciences on neuromorphic cameras, also known as event-based cameras.

The main focus for neuromorphic computing research is an agreement with the University of Waterloo in Canada with on research led by Prof. Chris Eliasmith.

The focus is on the development of algorithms for advanced driving assistance systems. By mimicking the functionality of the human brain, neuromorphic computing could significantly improve AI computation, making it faster and more energy-efficient.

While preserving vehicle range, safety systems could, for example, detect traffic signs, lanes and objects much better, even in poor visibility, and react faster. Neuromorphic computing has the potential to reduce the energy required to process data for autonomous driving by 90 percent compared to current systems.

The work with the University of Waterloo complements a series of existing Mercedes-Benz research collaborations on neuromorphic computing that includes end-to-end neuromorphic AI learning for autonomous driving.

Startups in the the Ontario Vehicle Innovation Network (OVIN) will also join the growing international Mercedes-Benz STARTUP AUTOBAHN network. The initiative aims to drive transfer research and development to industrialisation.

The OVIN Incubators Program will focus on identifying and fostering innovation in future software & AI, future vehicle components and future electric drive. Working with startups, and in partnership with OVIN, Mercedes-Benz will help progress promising projects through the provision of its specialist expertise and use cases.

“Innovation is part of Mercedes-Benz DNA. In our global R&D strategy, open innovation gives us rapid and direct access to the latest ideas and developments around the world,” said Schäfer. “We are therefore delighted to further expand our activities in Canada as a founding partner of the OVIN Incubators. In a fast-paced environment, it is another important channel for developing exciting future products and elevating our customer experience through new technologies.

In its pilot phase, the OVIN Incubators Program will conduct startup scouting to identify opportunities in Ontario relevant to Mercedes-Benz fields of research. The aim is to empower startups to engage with industry and establish a robust pipeline of companies whose growth can be catalysed. Together, OVIN and Mercedes-Benz will narrow down an initial longlist through a process of evaluation, ultimately arriving at individual projects that will progress to proof-of-concept based on Mercedes-Benz use cases.

https://group.mercedes-benz.com/company/news/open-innovation-canada.html

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