AVZ Discussion 2022

[Rechnerhand]

" ... As you can see, we are all in on increasing trade and investment with Africa. But for this to succeed, each of us has to do our part. U.S. companies stand to gain by taking greater risks and actively pursuing opportunities in new markets – but success demands more than ambition.

You must be willing to invest not just in capital, but in time – time spent understanding the market and how it operates. Events like this and the many American Chambers of Commerce across the continent, provide excellent opportunities to do just that. ..."

Remarks for Launch of Bureau of African Affairs Commercial Diplomacy Strategy

 

[kulturica]

I see your one and raise you two…. View attachment 84955

I see your two and raise you three..

 

[llhtom]

So will AVZ announce the ICSID is postponed ? Or do we figure that out for ourselves ?

Something significant like postponement of ICSID should be announced by AVZ rather than us finding it through the media. Then again, no reason to postpone it yet until we receive something concrete from DRC. Fatshi and Co are not trustworthy.

 

[Small Trader]

One would think that the final signing of the peace agreement could trigger a few more acquisition offers for AVZ.
Hopefully, for KoBold’s sake, they made a good offer, since our agreement with them isn’t binding and we could theoretically go with a better one. A bidding war would be a fitting happy ending to this thriller of a stock.

I still think that only a bidder that fits the geopolitical profile of the US will be supported by the US and integrated into the peace agreement. And that has a tight timetable!

Of course I would also like to see a bidding war, but please remember that so far we have to fight for our rights before the ICSID, which could lead to either self-production or sale.

In the peace deal, Trump dictates the rules, not any bidders who come forward.
In this respect, it will come down to 2 options:
* We accept the deal with Kobold (happily or grudgingly)
* We continue to wait for the ICSID to be successful.

I'm just as excited as you are to see if we can finally reap some of the rewards of our years of suffering.
But I remain realistic - our leverage in the peace agreement is not very long.
The ICSID route could possibly bring more, but it is fraught with uncertainties.

Cheer up and let's not give up hope.

 

[Jacob Kiraz]

$11.99 USD

When are we going to get a offer,
What is a suitable price for a share

 

[j.l]

I still think that only a bidder that fits the geopolitical profile of the US will be supported by the US and integrated into the peace agreement. And that has a tight timetable!

Of course I would also like to see a bidding war, but please remember that so far we have to fight for our rights before the ICSID, which could lead to either self-production or sale.

In the peace deal, Trump dictates the rules, not any bidders who come forward.
In this respect, it will come down to 2 options:
* We accept the deal with Kobold (happily or grudgingly)
* We continue to wait for the ICSID to be successful.

I'm just as excited as you are to see if we can finally reap some of the rewards of our years of suffering.
But I remain realistic - our leverage in the peace agreement is not very long.
The ICSID route could possibly bring more, but it is fraught with uncertainties.

Cheer up and let's not give up hope.

I wonder if there's another variation on this whereby Kobold acts as kind of a 'nameplate' entity that holds some portion of the project and provides the US link, and various others join in through a JV, bringing cash and mining operator capability.

Based on the interviews so far, it's obvious Kobold have little mining experience, but they've clearly been sniffing around Manono for a while.

Fold in rumours about Saudis and Rio, plus @geo_au's comments about the BoD being out and about to get the best price, and it's possible a consortium is being put together. Vaguely reminiscent of Simandou...

 

[JNRB]

I still think that only a bidder that fits the geopolitical profile of the US will be supported by the US and integrated into the peace agreement. And that has a tight timetable!

Of course I would also like to see a bidding war, but please remember that so far we have to fight for our rights before the ICSID, which could lead to either self-production or sale.

In the peace deal, Trump dictates the rules, not any bidders who come forward.
In this respect, it will come down to 2 options:
* We accept the deal with Kobold (happily or grudgingly)
* We continue to wait for the ICSID to be successful.

I'm just as excited as you are to see if we can finally reap some of the rewards of our years of suffering.
But I remain realistic - our leverage in the peace agreement is not very long.
The ICSID route could possibly bring more, but it is fraught with uncertainties.

Cheer up and let's not give up hope.

Saudis investing in an American company to buy Manono would likely still be presented as 'Saudi investment in America' and so likely popular with Trump. Also more popular for Saudis as they piggy back off American security architecture.

Whether or not that Americann company actually ends up being Kobol...

 

[Nellie17]

So will AVZ announce the ICSID is postponed ? Or do we figure that out for ourselves ?

Hey Wombles,

I have a feeling that it won't be postponed.

Why do I have that feeling you may ask?

Because I can feel it in my bosoms!!

Cheers,
Nells xxx

 

[BRICK]

Manono Lithium: KoBold Metals Appoints Benjamin Katabuka Country MD in DR Congo

Benjamin Katabuka is KoBold Metals’ new key figure in the complex contest over the Manono deposit in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC). At the end of March 2025, the lawyer was appointed Country Managing Director of the US mining junior, backed by billionaires Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos...

bankable.africa

 

[Penskefile]

Hey Wombles,

I have a feeling that it won't be postponed.

Why do I have that feeling you may ask?

Because I can feel it in my bosoms!!

Cheers,
Nells xxx

Only read three words in that post

 

[Xerof]

Hey Wombles,

I have a feeling that it won't be postponed.

Why do I have that feeling you may ask?

Because I can feel it in my bosoms!!

Cheers,
Nells xxx

So is no postponement good news Nells or will we be left feeling right tits?

 

[Samus]

Hey Wombles,

I have a feeling that it won't be postponed.

Why do I have that feeling you may ask?

Because I can feel it in my bosoms!!

Cheers,
Nells xxx

 

[wombat74]

So is no postponement good news Nells or will we be left feeling right tits?

Twitching canons = ICSID Cancelled =

 

[dollarbills]

I’ve been reading a bit about the Qataris being involved in these peace agreements. I wonder if they have any interest in funding a JV..
They also have a very large bank accounts like the Saudis..

 

[Remark]

What a pack of assholes

https://x.com/Manonolithium/status/1925123335823790276

 

[Rechnerhand]

Anyone can see what is behind teased number of '$3tn' in this article?

Washington deal: intricacies behind Tshisekedi's poker move

 

[Dave Evans]

So will AVZ announce the ICSID is postponed ? Or do we figure that out for ourselves ?

Here’s the link and case number Wombles, it only takes a few seconds to get to the their latest update, just click on the blue link below and put the case number in

ICSID (Title Dispute)
Case No. ARB/23/20

ICSID (World Bank) Link

Case Details | ICSID​

@j.l you can see by the latest article about KoBold, they are still going on about AVZ being in dispute, and then they like to add, KoBold’s offer proposes to resolve the dispute by providing AVZ “appropriate compensation”

Basically always using the same words. We don’t know what they think appropriate compensation is, we only know they were offering up to $US1.5bn ($2.38bn) plus a royalty.

They just keep adding in the same comments: disputed license, no assurance of any outcome, they’re doing us a favour etc. I still think they’ll try and pay fuck all and then charge an arm and a leg to the highest bidder to form a JV with them once they’ve got the license. Imagine how much money the Saudi’s, Rio or another major would pay them for a 50% share in the project

 

[PhatCatz]

Here’s the link and case number Wombles, it only takes a few seconds to get to the their latest update, just click on the blue link below and put the case number in

ICSID (Title Dispute)
Case No. ARB/23/20

ICSID (World Bank) Link

Case Details | ICSID​

@j.l you can see by the latest article about KoBold, they are still going on about AVZ being in dispute, and then they like to add, KoBold’s offer proposes to resolve the dispute by providing AVZ “appropriate compensation”

Basically always using the same words. We don’t know what they think appropriate compensation is, we only know they were offering up to $US1.5bn ($2.38bn) plus a royalty.

They just keep adding in the same comments: disputed license, no assurance of any outcome, they’re doing us a favour etc. I still think they’ll try and pay fuck all and then charge an arm and a leg to the highest bidder to form a JV with them once they’ve got the license. Imagine how much money the Saudi’s, Rio or another major would pay them for a 50% share in the project

that’s the play by them. Nail hitting the head there mate.

They’ve given us a second wind alongside the US no doubt but they will play games to get what they need for as little as they can.

 

[Dave Evans]

Agree with a lot of what you are saying. Maybe we can put differences behind us.

US $1.5b IF that article was correct. I believe they have come up a fair way since then.

Fuck off idiot (@j19 that is for those who have him on ignore) Same goes for your lying histrionic mate @Yaseen

 

[Dave Evans]

You want play it like this after I offered to let it go? Ok

Are the lads on the forum aware of your history of domestic violence with Nicole?

Does it make you feel like a big man to assault a woman? I suppose women are the only people you can pull that with. If you did it to a bloke you'd get your head kicked in, because you are a little small tiny man.

You want to play it like this I can make you face real world consequences.

Every one here knows your a troll and a liar, and a mate of shane the goose, like I said fuck off idiot