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[Diogenese]

He apparently deduced, that the PC Development Kit "consumed 180w" from the reference [88] but I can't find the original paper, from your link..

It's possibly from the PC shuttle specifications here?

Akida™ Development Kit - Shuttle PC

Specifications Storage – SATA / M.2 1x 2.5" bay for SATA hard disk or SSD, max. 9.5 mm 1x M.2-2280M slot (supports PCIe x4 NVMe or SATA) 1x M.2-2230AE for an optional WLAN card Connectors HDMI 2.0a D-Sub VGA 4x USB 3.2 Gen1 4x USB 2.0 1x USB 2.0 internal USB stick 2x audio (line out, mic) Intel...

shop.brainchipinc.com

Which only lists the power supply, as I've stated.

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Things electrical are like "black magic" to me, but maybe someone here, more electrically inclined, can comment if power consumption, can be ascertained from the provided power supply.

I personally think Peter would be horrified, if AKIDA consumed 180w..

Hi DB,

The 180 W has nothing to do with Akida's power consumption. It refers to the Shuttle PC power supply. This is an example of a Shuttle PC into which the Akida PCIe board could be plugged:

https://www.catch.com.au/product/shuttle-xh510g2-slim-mini-pc-5l-barebone-intel-11-10th-gen-pcie-x16-pcie-x1-lan-hdmi-dp-2x-ddr4-2-5-hdd-ssd-bay-2xm-2-2280-180w-11482534/?offer_id=91722247&ref=gmc&st=123&iv_=__iv_p_1_a_662349084_g_1244648463498082_c__k__m_e_w_pla-4581390093492546_n_o_d_c_v__l__t__r__x__y_81285_f_Online_o_91722247_z_AU_i_EN_j_4581390093492546_s__e__h__ii__vi__&msclkid=2bf6b4da83fc189e8648d14362653d72&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Sparro | PMax | Marketplace | No-Sale | Superbands Experiment&utm_term=4581390093492546&utm_content=Ad group


Shuttle XPC slim XH510G2 equips with Intel H510 chipset, which expertly supports Intel 11th Gen LGA1200 65W Core CPU delivers high-performance computing for applications that demand high-speed processing and computer vision. Despite its 5-liter compact chassis, XH510G2 provides a PCI-Ex16 slot to install an extra dual slot graphics card, capture card, or more to meet diverse application requirements. The XH510G2 also offers multiple interfaces to connect peripherals, including 4x USB 3.2 Gen1, 4x USB 2.0, an HDMI 2.0, a DisplayPort 1.4, SATA connectors, M.2 slots, and Intel Gigabit LAN. These scalabilities provide all the fundamentals to boost daily productivity. It is perfect for the video wall, POS server, surveillance, professional creators, and Kiosk applications.

As you imply, the power supply would be designed to be able to supply more power than the processors rated power. Some of the 180 W would be used for the fan to cool the 65 W Intel CPU.

The Akida board would be plugged into the PCI-Ex16 slot.

Akida is processor agnostic and can be run with all ARM processors as well as with Microchip processors.

We know Akida can perform complex tasks using tenths of a Watt. This is insignificant in relation to the 65 W consumed by the intel CPU, and the 180 W figure has no relevance to Akida.

Remember that Akida 1000 runs without any use of the CPU once it is configured. There may of course be post-processing of Akida results by the CPU, but Akida will have done the heavy lifting.

 

[Kachoo]

GAME ON ......

Sony Shows Off Next-Gen TV Technology - And It Isn’t OLED

Sony targets way more brightness for less power consumption with new Mini LED display

www.forbes.com

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That would be a dream.

 

[IloveLamp]

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[Diogenese]

Looks to me, like he provided "references" to the information provided, thinking no one would actually bother to look them up?..

Also, if AKIDA is included in a system (the PC Shuttle) even if that system did use the full 180w (I'm thinking that would be the "maximum" intended draw).

Does that reflect on the actual "AKIDA component" power usage?

The logic in his arguments against AKIDA, just don't make sense to me, even from a layman's view..

Quite right.

If the system is designed to operate in sleep mode with a little bit of Akida (2 nodes?) running a wake word lookout, the system would draw very little power, and only a maximum of 300 mW when in operation for the Akida classification/inference functions.

 

[Iseki]

Straight from Rod Drake's lips to your ears


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I agree it is a great achievement to work with the Microchips platform.

I think it means that manufacturers can go out and start writing software for their different products, that can go straight into the finished doorbell or Mercedes or whatever.

The only worry that I have ever had is that once they write their software for the product and they need, for example 10,000 arm Cortex M chips with an Akida variant inside to start manufacturing, they need to put an order in with either Renesas or MegaChips. And all of a sudden BrainChip loses control. By this I mean, the Renesas M85 + Akida chip is nowhere on their product list, even though it's been taped out.

So the problem is really who will take the financial risk to manufacture the Renesas chip? I personally would like to see Brainchip take on some of that risk so that manufacturers know that they can go out and develop their products, write the software with the Microchip's platform, knowing that the arm+Akida chip will be there when they need it.

Iseki

 

[Damo4]

I agree it is a great achievement to work with the Microchips platform.

I think it means that manufacturers can go out and start writing software for their different products, that can go straight into the finished doorbell or Mercedes or whatever.

The only worry that I have ever had is that once they write their software for the product and they need, for example 10,000 arm Cortex M chips with an Akida variant inside to start manufacturing, they need to put an order in with either Renesas or MegaChips. And all of a sudden BrainChip loses control. By this I mean, the Renesas M85 + Akida chip is nowhere on their product list, even though it's been taped out.

So the problem is really who will take the financial risk to manufacture the Renesas chip? I personally would like to see Brainchip take on some of that risk so that manufacturers know that they can go out and develop their products, write the software with the Microchip's platform, knowing that the arm+Akida chip will be there when they need it.

Iseki

What have I actually just read....

 

[Fact Finder]

Hi All
As the cost of developing an academic theory or a product has become a topic and being a technophobe I thought I would investigate this question.

It turns out if you use the Edge Impulse platform it is likely to be free for most academic and individual users.

Who would have thought so struggling academics and developers no longer have to put up their hard earned to run an idea through Brainchip AKIDA or any other companies supported hardware.

I guess that’s why Brainchip dropped off including support with their Boards something which they promoted strongly.

Rather a clever move this Edge Impulse partnership. Who would have thought completely free access to experiment with Brainchip AKIDA technology.

“Edge Impulse​

Edge Impulse is the leading development platform for machine learning on edge devices, free for developers and trusted by enterprises. Founded in 2019 by Zach Shelby and Jan Jongboom, we are on a mission to enable developers to create the next generation of intelligent devices. We believe that machine learning can enable positive change in society, and we are dedicated to support applications for good.”

We're Updating Our Free Community Plan — Here Are the Details

On January 10, 2024 we updated the Edge Impulse Community Plan. Here is everything you need to know.

www.edgeimpulse.com

My opinion only DYOR
Fact Finder

 

[Bravo]

No doubt this huge cash injection will help Microchip build NASA's HPSC (High-Performance Spaceflight Computer) chip with initial availability in 2024.

Bearing in mind, the HPSC will use an 8-core, SiFive 'Intelligence' X280 RISC-V vector core. And because of that I am very confident that we'll receive an announcement sooner or later confirming SiFive X280 having been integrated with either Akida-S or Akida-P and following that confirmation of our inclusion in NASA's HPSC.

BTW, the HSPC won't just be for space missions but will also be utilised in application on Earth such as defense, commercial aviation, robotics, medical equipment, etc.

Microchip slated to receive $162M in CHIPS funds

Uncle Sam: Nothing goes together quite like a well-pressed uniform and weapons of mass destruction

www.theregister.com

 

[Iseki]

What have I actually just read....

tea leaves?

 

[Pom down under]

Get Ready for a ‘Tsunami’ of AI at CES

CES, which kicks off January 9 in Las Vegas, will feature the usual assortment of new consumer tech products. This year, even more of that stuff will be empowered by machine intelligence.

www.wired.com

 

[IloveLamp]

GAME ON ......

Sony Shows Off Next-Gen TV Technology - And It Isn’t OLED

Sony targets way more brightness for less power consumption with new Mini LED display

www.forbes.com

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Forgot this kinda important bit

 

[TECH]

No doubt this huge cash injection will help Microchip build NASA's HPSC (High-Performance Spaceflight Computer) chip with initial availability in 2024.

Bearing in mind, the HPSC will use an 8-core, SiFive 'Intelligence' X280 RISC-V vector core. And because of that I am very confident that we'll receive an announcement sooner or later confirming SiFive X280 having been integrated with either Akida-S or Akida-P and following that confirmation of our inclusion in NASA's HPSC.

BTW, the HSPC won't just be for space missions but will also be utilised in application on Earth such as defense, commercial aviation, robotics, medical equipment, etc.

Microchip slated to receive $162M in CHIPS funds

Uncle Sam: Nothing goes together quite like a well-pressed uniform and weapons of mass destruction

www.theregister.com

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That was an example of excellent work Bravo !....with Brainchip adding Microchip to the equation in next weeks CES it all points to some
very interesting possibilities ahead....love Akida II

 

[Bravo]

Another one for TEAL......

TEAL Launches Aurora, an Enhanced IoT Connectivity Platform

TEAL Launches Aurora, a Next-Gen Enhanced IoT Connectivity Platform Enabling Global eSIM Control at Scale With Stand-Out Features.

www.iotforall.com

TEAL Launches Aurora, an Enhanced IoT Connectivity Platform | IoT For All

TEAL launches Aurora, a next-gen enhanced #IoT connectivity platform enabling global #eSIM control at scale with stand-out features. Click to read the details!

www.linkedin.com

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Rob has liked Teal enough times to warrant a true love match.

I wonder if Akida could be embedded in their SIM card? Or perhaps, more likely within the devices in corresponding IoTs that are equipped with sensors to collect and transmit information via networks. At any rate s-SIM connections are going to be BOOMING in the next few years! Thales are into it as well and why shouldn't they be with eSIM connections to exceed 4.5 billion in 2027!

A side note, Teal CEO and co-founder Robert Hamblet was previously an engineer at Globetouch, an IoT connectivity giant. He co-founded Teal Communications with Michael Johnston the Teal's chief business officer who was a management consultant for Microsoft.

6 key points to understand what an eSIM is

eSIM is coming in a large number of devices. What is an eSIM? SIM vs eSIM: What's the difference? Get answers now with this illustrated Q&A.

www.thalesgroup.com

 

[FJ-215]

No doubt this huge cash injection will help Microchip build NASA's HPSC (High-Performance Spaceflight Computer) chip with initial availability in 2024.

Bearing in mind, the HPSC will use an 8-core, SiFive 'Intelligence' X280 RISC-V vector core. And because of that I am very confident that we'll receive an announcement sooner or later confirming SiFive X280 having been integrated with either Akida-S or Akida-P and following that confirmation of our inclusion in NASA's HPSC.

BTW, the HSPC won't just be for space missions but will also be utilised in application on Earth such as defense, commercial aviation, robotics, medical equipment, etc.

Microchip slated to receive $162M in CHIPS funds

Uncle Sam: Nothing goes together quite like a well-pressed uniform and weapons of mass destruction

www.theregister.com

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6 months old but......

Right neighbourly of Bob to keep an eye on what Rod's team is up to.

 

[FJ-215]

6 months old but......

Right neighbourly of Bob to keep an eye on what Rod's team is up to.

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/bob-vampola-aba77615/recent-activity/comments/

 

[Gemmax]

CES Is Back and AI Will Take Center Stage. Here’s What Else to Expect From Tech’s Biggest Show. — Barron’s

This coming week, a ridiculous number of people will be in Las Vegas for the annual extravaganza that is CES. First held in 1967, and originally known as the Consumer Electronics Show, the event now covers so many technology segments and products that it’s either the show about nothing or...

apple.news

 

[Tothemoon24]

School Security Systems for K-12 & Campuses

• Protect staff and students with our reliable school security systems and campus surveillance

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Detection is a foundation of our video security systems, and we are proud to share that the new Gun Detection System has been named a CES® 2024 Innovation Awards Best of Innovation Honoree in the AI category and an Innovation Awards honoree in the Human Security for All category.

 

[DingoBorat]

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School Security Systems for K-12 & Campuses

• Protect staff and students with our reliable school security systems and campus surveillance

www.boschsecurity.com

Detection is a foundation of our video security systems, and we are proud to share that the new Gun Detection System has been named a CES® 2024 Innovation Awards Best of Innovation Honoree in the AI category and an Innovation Awards honoree in the Human Security for All category.

AKIDA would excel at this, but they say the video analytics are "Based on deep learning"?..

Again, like the example with the over 1 million image, Samsung fridge training data set, I guess that doesn't necessarily rule us out?

Data being processed at the edge, is a big tick, but "everybody" is trying to do that these days..

Would be nice to be in with Bosch.

From what we know about AKIDAs capabilities and without being biased, we really do seem like the "best" option, for a lot of what's coming to market.

Whether we are the chosen option, is an entirely different thing..

 

[ForrestofHope]

Sony is a dream but Samsung would be an even bigger dream:


I am NOT saying Samsung will unveil products that contain AKIDA but I can dream. CES2024 is only a matter of days away and we will find out for sure. But here are a few 'Hope's' I have for Samsung.

Also check out the Samsung link in this form and some wonderful work research done by many generous contributors to this forum.

Hope number 1

Brainchip named checked Samsung in March 2019 although did not confirm that Brainchip is working with Samsung

https://cdn-api.markitdigital.com/apiman-gateway/ASX/asx-research/1.0/file/2995-02099695-2A1146321



Hope number 2

However, we do know that Brainchip had been in direct contact with Samsung before March 2020. This is taken from a Brainchip Market Update (source below):

(underline mine)

LDN speaking

Lou “I was supposed to be in Shanghai and greater China for the month of February, Seoul, Korea, as well”

Lou: “Smart home, rarely (Lou actually said ‘primarily’ on the recording) in this case in South Korea for us but Smart Home is a big deal for us. But Anil will touch on some of the aspects of what we can do with keyword spotting, what we can do with incremental learning. These are things that the Smart Home manufacturers, the global manufacturers, in Smart Home, as well as Smart City, should probably put those two together, are very excited about.”

Start the demo. “This is a Samsung camera. We thank Samsung for forwarding this to us. It actually does send events directly so we don't need to convert from frames to events in this.”

Anil: “So, look at what it's doing here. We actually, take a Samsung camera and we're doing hand gestures. Here, what we did, we took nine gestures, train the network from the actual spikes that were coming from...”

https://www.finnewsnetwork.com.au/archives/finance_news_network275603.html



Hope number 3

May 2020 AGM LDN included the following in his presentation

Hope number 4

Then there was this image in the May 2021 Presentation – there was a lot of discussion around the brand on the washing machine and fridge but the general consensus was that it looked like it said Samsung when the image was blown up

@Deadpool highlighted, Brainchip have a LIDAR vacuum cleaner


Hope number 5

Now: Check out the one Samsung are going to reveal at CES2024 – it recognises stains

https://news.samsung.com/au/samsung...ew-vacuum-lineup-with-enhanced-ai-at-ces-2024

Samsung Electronics To Unveil New Vacuum Lineup That Redefines Home Cleaning With Enhanced AI at CES 2024

Compared to the image on Brainchip’s webpage. I know the image on Brainchip's page is a stock image but the style of vacuum is similar.
My thought: Brainchip are now being very careful about not placing a possible customer's product with their name or logo on their homepage aftyer the aforementioned picture of the fridge etc.


Hope number 6

What about a bespoke 4 door fridge they are talking about in their connected kitchen. Does it look like an updated version of the fridge that Brainchip mentioned in 2021?

https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...ble-expansive-kitchen-experiences-at-ces-2024


Hope number 7

Samsung also announced an interesting collaboration with Hyundai to connect the home devices with the car. (underline mine)

“The two companies will work together for the next-generation smart home to connect Samsung’s SmartThings with Hyundai and Kia’s connected cars, including EVs to develop the “Home-to-Car” and “Car-to-Home” services, as well as an integrated home energy management service.

The Home-to-Car and Car-to-Home services[1] connect the smart home with in-vehicle infotainment systems, allowing for remote control in both directions. Through the SmartThings platform, users will be able to perform a variety of actions pertaining to their cars while at home — starting them, controlling smart air conditioning, opening and closing windows, and checking their charging status. And from cars, the control of compatible home appliances such as TVs, air conditioners and EV chargers will also be possible.

“This collaboration will enable communication from Home-to-Car and integrated home energy management services that are optimized for future lifestyles,” said Chanwoo Park, Executive Vice President at Samsung Electronics. “By connecting the SmartThings platform with vehicles, we’ll be able to significantly enhance the customer experience in both the home and the car.”

The question I have is how are they going to secure the information from the home to car and vice versa without opening themselves up to security risks? Maybe this patent announced by Brainchip with help? Maybe @diogense can confirm if this patent can be used for such a purpose? I know when the patent was released there was a lot of discussion about Mercedes possibly using it to connect to the home. If that is the case an Mercedes do use it, which appliances and devises would they connect to at the home as they build smart cars not smart homes?

https://brainchip.com/brainchip-for...portfolio-with-new-awards-and-ip-acquisition/


Hope number 8
Brainchip have employed a sales person dedicated to their Korea customers. However, I can't remember any of Brainchip's publicly acknowledged customers being from Korea. @FactFinder and others will be able to confirm this.


Anyway, that is my ramblings for today. Once again I am NOT saying that Samsung is using AKIDA, I’m just really hoping they are.

 

[buena suerte :-)]

Sony is a dream but Samsung would be an even bigger dream:


I am NOT saying Samsung will unveil products that contain AKIDA but I can dream. CES2024 is only a matter of days away and we will find out for sure. But here are a few 'Hope's' I have for Samsung.

Also check out the Samsung link in this form and some wonderful work research done by many generous contributors to this forum.

Hope number 1

Brainchip named checked Samsung in March 2019 although did not confirm that Brainchip is working with Samsung

View attachment 53581
https://cdn-api.markitdigital.com/apiman-gateway/ASX/asx-research/1.0/file/2995-02099695-2A1146321



Hope number 2

However, we do know that Brainchip had been in direct contact with Samsung before March 2020. This is taken from a Brainchip Market Update (source below):

(underline mine)

LDN speaking

Lou “I was supposed to be in Shanghai and greater China for the month of February, Seoul, Korea, as well”

Lou: “Smart home, rarely (Lou actually said ‘primarily’ on the recording) in this case in South Korea for us but Smart Home is a big deal for us. But Anil will touch on some of the aspects of what we can do with keyword spotting, what we can do with incremental learning. These are things that the Smart Home manufacturers, the global manufacturers, in Smart Home, as well as Smart City, should probably put those two together, are very excited about.”

Start the demo. “This is a Samsung camera. We thank Samsung for forwarding this to us. It actually does send events directly so we don't need to convert from frames to events in this.”

Anil: “So, look at what it's doing here. We actually, take a Samsung camera and we're doing hand gestures. Here, what we did, we took nine gestures, train the network from the actual spikes that were coming from...”

https://www.finnewsnetwork.com.au/archives/finance_news_network275603.html



Hope number 3

May 2020 AGM LDN included the following in his presentation

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Hope number 4

Then there was this image in the May 2021 Presentation – there was a lot of discussion around the brand on the washing machine and fridge but the general consensus was that it looked like it said Samsung when the image was blown up

View attachment 53583


@Deadpool highlighted, Brainchip have a LIDAR vacuum cleaner


Hope number 5

Now: Check out the one Samsung are going to reveal at CES2024 – it recognises stains

View attachment 53584
https://news.samsung.com/au/samsung...ew-vacuum-lineup-with-enhanced-ai-at-ces-2024

Samsung Electronics To Unveil New Vacuum Lineup That Redefines Home Cleaning With Enhanced AI at CES 2024


View attachment 53585


Compared to the image on Brainchip’s webpage. I know the image on Brainchip's page is a stock image but the style of vacuum is similar.
My thought: Brainchip are now being very careful about not placing a possible customer's product with their name or logo on their homepage aftyer the aforementioned picture of the fridge etc.


Hope number 6

What about a bespoke 4 door fridge they are talking about in their connected kitchen. Does it look like an updated version of the fridge that Brainchip mentioned in 2021?

View attachment 53586

https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...ble-expansive-kitchen-experiences-at-ces-2024


Hope number 7

Samsung also announced an interesting collaboration with Hyundai to connect the home devices with the car. (underline mine)

View attachment 53587
“The two companies will work together for the next-generation smart home to connect Samsung’s SmartThings with Hyundai and Kia’s connected cars, including EVs to develop the “Home-to-Car” and “Car-to-Home” services, as well as an integrated home energy management service.

The Home-to-Car and Car-to-Home services[1] connect the smart home with in-vehicle infotainment systems, allowing for remote control in both directions. Through the SmartThings platform, users will be able to perform a variety of actions pertaining to their cars while at home — starting them, controlling smart air conditioning, opening and closing windows, and checking their charging status. And from cars, the control of compatible home appliances such as TVs, air conditioners and EV chargers will also be possible.

“This collaboration will enable communication from Home-to-Car and integrated home energy management services that are optimized for future lifestyles,” said Chanwoo Park, Executive Vice President at Samsung Electronics. “By connecting the SmartThings platform with vehicles, we’ll be able to significantly enhance the customer experience in both the home and the car.”

View attachment 53588

The question I have is how are they going to secure the information from the home to car and vice versa without opening themselves up to security risks? Maybe this patent announced by Brainchip with help? Maybe @diogense can confirm if this patent can be used for such a purpose? I know when the patent was released there was a lot of discussion about Mercedes possibly using it to connect to the home. If that is the case an Mercedes do use it, which appliances and devises would they connect to at the home as they build smart cars not smart homes?

https://brainchip.com/brainchip-for...portfolio-with-new-awards-and-ip-acquisition/


Hope number 8
Brainchip have employed a sales person dedicated to their Korea customers. However, I can't remember any of Brainchip's publicly acknowledged customers being from Korea. @FactFinder and others will be able to confirm this.


Anyway, that is my ramblings for today. Once again I am NOT saying that Samsung is using AKIDA, I’m just really hoping they are.

Yep that would be one serious dream come true!

There is also this that directly links us with Samsung!

Very much looking forward to next week

Cheers and good luck!