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cruiser51

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Just having a thought on this Wa court case AVZ v Fat Tail.....

Why would the AVZ bod give a shit about Fat Tail ( MMGA movement ) if there was indeed a deal in the works with " sustained, constructive dialogue with DRC Govt with respect to the explotation license and the withdrawal of the ICSID proceedings "

Or is it just a matter of hedging your bets ?

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Me thinks there is absolutely zero trust in anything the DRC government says, they even don't honour their own laws.

Don't forget there only seems to be some movement at the door because the ICSID case slowly comes nearer, like a full Pilbara iron ore train without brakes.
 
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If there are already 6 on the Board, even if all three muppets are voted in and brings total to 9, they would never have a majority on any Board decisions. Doesn’t this reduce or even eliminate the risk of Board selling to Chinese?
 
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Winenut

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If there are already 6 on the Board, even if all three muppets are voted in and brings total to 9, they would never have a majority on any Board decisions. Doesn’t this reduce or even eliminate the risk of Board selling to Chinese?
No...
 
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Winenut

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If there are already 6 on the Board, even if all three muppets are voted in and brings total to 9, they would never have a majority on any Board decisions. Doesn’t this reduce or even eliminate the risk of Board selling to Chinese?
If any of them make it onto the Board they will be privy to every single board strategy, activity, piece of information about AVZ and it's dealings and every single piece of that intel will go DIRECTLY back to their masters (make no mistake DIRECTLY back to their masters) who would then formulate further strategies to bring about the ultimate outcomes aligned to their agenda

Any MMGA associate in any capacity on or near the AVZ board is an absolute fucking cancer
 
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Us shareholders would then 249D any MMGA associates on the Board as many times as it takes until they resign. If they don’t, it would go to an EGM for vote each time. Rinse and repeat until they get the message. Pain in the arse yes and costly, but an option.
 
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Winenut

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Us shareholders would then 249D any MMGA associates on the Board as many times as it takes until they resign. If they don’t, it would go to an EGM for vote each time. Rinse and repeat until they get the message. Pain in the arse yes and costly, but an option.
Then best those fuckers don't get there in the first place....
 
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BEISHA

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I think that irrespective of anything happening with the DRC Govt the BoD must do absolutely everything in their power to hinder and ultimately stop anyone from MMGA from getting on the board of AVZ

Even if we get the ML if any of those slimy MMGA puppets are on the board of AVZ they will continue to agitate and press their agenda

And the agenda of MMGA and the stooges involved is to ensure the Manono Project is sold to their Chinese backers for an absolute pittance in return for massive personal rewards in the nature of M&A fees, commisssions, personal payments etc etc

Make no mistake Huljich, Carrick and Ludbrook and the shareholders of Fat Tail Holdings intend to sell current AVZ shareholders down the absolute fucking river in return for massive personal rewards provided by Cong and others

Don't worry ol' Tommy Dickheadson will be on the payroll too (and don't forget Eckhof) for playing their part in what has clearly become a hostile takeover attempt through nefarious, corrupt and ulitmately criminal means

It must get the attention of the Australian Government, FIRB, Federal Police, ASIC, ASX etc etc

This is a massively orchestrated hostile attempt to strip current shareholders of their investment in AVZ and sell the project to Chinese interests for next to nothing for the massive personal gain of a few

It is sickening and the filthy bottom feeders noted above that are participating in it for their own massive personal benefit have no moral compass between them and would collectively crawl over broken glass and their dead mother's lifeless body for 5 cents
Me thinks there is absolutely zero trust in anything the DRC government says, they even don't honour their own laws.

Don't forget there only seems to be some movement at the door because the ICSID case slowly comes nearer, like a full Pilbara iron ore train without brakes.
Very good points and well said.

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wombat74

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If any of them make it onto the Board they will be privy to every single board strategy, activity, piece of information about AVZ and it's dealings and every single piece of that intel will go DIRECTLY back to their masters (make no mistake DIRECTLY back to their masters) who would then formulate further strategies to bring about the ultimate outcomes aligned to their agenda

Any MMGA associate in any capacity on or near the AVZ board is an absolute fucking cancer
Felix promoting CKK after point blank evidence of his corruption is of equal concern . Promoting CKK after Marius Mihigo was supposedly setting the record straight .
 
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I reckon Felix will take out the trash after the election if he wins. Adele, CK, Sama for starters. Lisette will be spared given family relation.
 
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Just having a thought on this Wa court case AVZ v Fat Tail.....

Why would the AVZ bod give a shit about Fat Tail ( MMGA movement ) if there was indeed a deal in the works with " sustained, constructive dialogue with DRC Govt with respect to the explotation license and the withdrawal of the ICSID proceedings "

Or is it just a matter of hedging your bets ?

imo
All risks need to be managed. Until such time as we see the ML written in stone and blood then this and every other matter needs to be treated as an existential threat.

We must to continue to pursue all protective measures, including this action and the ICSID case.

Zijin.will.never.ever.stop.ever.

#FuckZijin
 
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I reckon Felix will take out the trash after the election if he wins. Adele, CK, Sama for starters. Lisette will be spared given family relation.
I can understand FT keeping on Adele for political purposes, and Sama also, but I hardly see the electoral benefit that he could gain from promotion of CKK. It was a clear sign in my view that he is not on AVZ's side. That doesn't necessarily mean he's on the other side either, he may just have been hoodwinked as he was earlier during Covid by our opponents, but it's not an action that you'd think would be taken by someone who understands the situation and is thus amenable to our interests. I don't buy the argument that he's setting him up for a fall either.
 
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Who knows? CKK may have mafia connections or close ties to political heavyweights that make it difficult for Felix to act appropriately. Just find it weird that CKK got promoted after IGF. I’m hoping that Felix hands were tied vs not giving a rats and against AVZ.
 
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Felix promoting CKK after point blank evidence of his corruption is of equal concern . Promoting CKK after Marius Mihigo was supposedly setting the record straight .
I can understand FT keeping on Adele for political purposes, and Sama also, but I hardly see the electoral benefit that he could gain from promotion of CKK. It was a clear sign in my view that he is not on AVZ's side. That doesn't necessarily mean he's on the other side either, he may just have been hoodwinked as he was earlier during Covid by our opponents, but it's not an action that you'd think would be taken by someone who understands the situation and is thus amenable to our interests. I don't buy the argument that he's setting him up for a fall either.
Speaking as someone that hyped up lions all of last summer my opinion is that Felix is CORRUPT AS FUCK

From last years AGM:

We want to be a transformative resources company, delivering long term benefits for all stakeholders

Serge and Balthazar are critical pieces of the puzzle – presenting us to government and moving forward through a difficult time

Have 48mil in the bank, and we intend to have a 3-month rolling approval for budget. If things turn to the worst, we’ll take the decision to cut back on budget and save cash.

DFS numbers well and truly out of date now – due to prices spiking massively.

75% ownership totally undisputable. Can’t listen to any of the nonsense going on with third parties trying to claim percentages. We’ll be going to the next level in defending this if need be.

Capital requirements likely over US$600m now, even for 4.5 mpta plant.

Infrastructure is something we need to get sorted, to mobilize our equipment

Despite best efforts of people in country that say we don’t have the hydro facility – its undisputable that we do, its under the MOU and we are the one’s who will be refurbishing it. We’ll fight tooth and nail to keep M-P

Awakening the monster – still asleep now until ML, but it’ll be a game changer.

Good news coming in in the future on strip ratio

RD focus - very clean product. Old pegmatite boundary was being hidden, and a larger peg boundary now means more tonnes can come into the pit design.

Drilling programme for RD ongoing – 4 drill rigs operating 24/7. This will keep going until resource completed. We believe this will be a good boost for reserve tonnes, and strip ration.

We were looking at about a 20% LCE market share, based on demand, which could go higher.

We still retain first right of refusal of Cominere’s remaining percentage. “we will be purchasing that 15% if the hurdles are removed, as long as number is right”

C’s must cede its 10% to the government – under our JV agreement

Very confident of maintaining majority ownership moving forward.

We went into trading halt originally because of short selling campaign, and then decided to stay to protect shareholder value

Enemies doing a very good hatchet job on us in country, but that’s turning around

Don’t believe Jin Cheng have a leg to stand on – we’ll be taking them to task

We’ll be defending Dathomir – won’t be held up much longer. Legally we are on a very strong footing. Pretty sure it will be a positive outcome for us. It was only after we’d received the share certificates that they started messing around with legal actions

CATH meeting with us next week, to have an update. CATH still very keen

Intend to stay in suspension until ML delivered. No point in coming out without it and allowing short sellers to beat the price down.

Sustainability and ESG a main focus. Even though well be a bit of a black startup due to calcination needs, but that will be eased over time

DFI’s still at the table, still keen to get involved, and have large checkbooks interested in opening to us when ML delivered, and data rooms reopened

Funding should be well and truly covered - and can get more if required

We’ll be looking for additional O/Ts as expand – looking for geographical diversity
 
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wombat74

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Speaking as someone that hyped up lions all of last summer my opinion is that Felix is CORRUPT AS FUCK

From last years AGM:

We want to be a transformative resources company, delivering long term benefits for all stakeholders

Serge and Balthazar are critical pieces of the puzzle – presenting us to government and moving forward through a difficult time

Have 48mil in the bank, and we intend to have a 3-month rolling approval for budget. If things turn to the worst, we’ll take the decision to cut back on budget and save cash.

DFS numbers well and truly out of date now – due to prices spiking massively.

75% ownership totally undisputable. Can’t listen to any of the nonsense going on with third parties trying to claim percentages. We’ll be going to the next level in defending this if need be.

Capital requirements likely over US$600m now, even for 4.5 mpta plant.

Infrastructure is something we need to get sorted, to mobilize our equipment

Despite best efforts of people in country that say we don’t have the hydro facility – its undisputable that we do, its under the MOU and we are the one’s who will be refurbishing it. We’ll fight tooth and nail to keep M-P

Awakening the monster – still asleep now until ML, but it’ll be a game changer.

Good news coming in in the future on strip ratio

RD focus - very clean product. Old pegmatite boundary was being hidden, and a larger peg boundary now means more tonnes can come into the pit design.

Drilling programme for RD ongoing – 4 drill rigs operating 24/7. This will keep going until resource completed. We believe this will be a good boost for reserve tonnes, and strip ration.

We were looking at about a 20% LCE market share, based on demand, which could go higher.

We still retain first right of refusal of Cominere’s remaining percentage. “we will be purchasing that 15% if the hurdles are removed, as long as number is right”

C’s must cede its 10% to the government – under our JV agreement

Very confident of maintaining majority ownership moving forward.

We went into trading halt originally because of short selling campaign, and then decided to stay to protect shareholder value

Enemies doing a very good hatchet job on us in country, but that’s turning around

Don’t believe Jin Cheng have a leg to stand on – we’ll be taking them to task

We’ll be defending Dathomir – won’t be held up much longer. Legally we are on a very strong footing. Pretty sure it will be a positive outcome for us. It was only after we’d received the share certificates that they started messing around with legal actions

CATH meeting with us next week, to have an update. CATH still very keen

Intend to stay in suspension until ML delivered. No point in coming out without it and allowing short sellers to beat the price down.

Sustainability and ESG a main focus. Even though well be a bit of a black startup due to calcination needs, but that will be eased over time

DFI’s still at the table, still keen to get involved, and have large checkbooks interested in opening to us when ML delivered, and data rooms reopened

Funding should be well and truly covered - and can get more if required

We’ll be looking for additional O/Ts as expand – looking for geographical diversity
100% agree. Felix is a Chinese puppet . Apparently CKK is the cousin of a heavy hitter . Untouchable ? Hence the promotion . A big f--k you to AVZ . If the ICC verdict goes ignored then we will know we are up sh1t creek . They are hoping the MMGA gets up and makes all the legal proceedings go away . IMO
 
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Speaking as someone that hyped up lions all of last summer my opinion is that Felix is CORRUPT AS FUCK

From last years AGM:

We want to be a transformative resources company, delivering long term benefits for all stakeholders

Serge and Balthazar are critical pieces of the puzzle – presenting us to government and moving forward through a difficult time

Have 48mil in the bank, and we intend to have a 3-month rolling approval for budget. If things turn to the worst, we’ll take the decision to cut back on budget and save cash.

DFS numbers well and truly out of date now – due to prices spiking massively.

75% ownership totally undisputable. Can’t listen to any of the nonsense going on with third parties trying to claim percentages. We’ll be going to the next level in defending this if need be.

Capital requirements likely over US$600m now, even for 4.5 mpta plant.

Infrastructure is something we need to get sorted, to mobilize our equipment

Despite best efforts of people in country that say we don’t have the hydro facility – its undisputable that we do, its under the MOU and we are the one’s who will be refurbishing it. We’ll fight tooth and nail to keep M-P

Awakening the monster – still asleep now until ML, but it’ll be a game changer.

Good news coming in in the future on strip ratio

RD focus - very clean product. Old pegmatite boundary was being hidden, and a larger peg boundary now means more tonnes can come into the pit design.

Drilling programme for RD ongoing – 4 drill rigs operating 24/7. This will keep going until resource completed. We believe this will be a good boost for reserve tonnes, and strip ration.

We were looking at about a 20% LCE market share, based on demand, which could go higher.

We still retain first right of refusal of Cominere’s remaining percentage. “we will be purchasing that 15% if the hurdles are removed, as long as number is right”

C’s must cede its 10% to the government – under our JV agreement

Very confident of maintaining majority ownership moving forward.

We went into trading halt originally because of short selling campaign, and then decided to stay to protect shareholder value

Enemies doing a very good hatchet job on us in country, but that’s turning around

Don’t believe Jin Cheng have a leg to stand on – we’ll be taking them to task

We’ll be defending Dathomir – won’t be held up much longer. Legally we are on a very strong footing. Pretty sure it will be a positive outcome for us. It was only after we’d received the share certificates that they started messing around with legal actions

CATH meeting with us next week, to have an update. CATH still very keen

Intend to stay in suspension until ML delivered. No point in coming out without it and allowing short sellers to beat the price down.

Sustainability and ESG a main focus. Even though well be a bit of a black startup due to calcination needs, but that will be eased over time

DFI’s still at the table, still keen to get involved, and have large checkbooks interested in opening to us when ML delivered, and data rooms reopened

Funding should be well and truly covered - and can get more if required

We’ll be looking for additional O/Ts as expand – looking for geographical diversity
Aaagh, its refreshing to read about stock, even tho it has corrupt elements in it.........:)

Looking forward to the day, ML is granted and we can all chat about the phases of construction, leading to production numbers and ultimately , dividends.

What a dream that would be....:unsure:

imo
 
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Is there anything shareholders can do prior to AGM to stop the MMGA clowns from running for collusion concerns?
Emails, petition?
Besides voting it would be nice to know we are doing all we can to support our BOD’s.
Seems like just a distraction and there is no chance of them getting up but a lot of unknowns..hoping Friday’s court case was all about getting them removed.
 
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Is there anything shareholders can do prior to AGM to stop the MMGA clowns from running for collusion concerns?
Emails, petition?
Besides voting it would be nice to know we are doing all we can to support our BOD’s.
Seems like just a distraction and there is no chance of them getting up but a lot of unknowns..hoping Friday’s court case was all about getting them removed.

Sorry Tony, for some I don’t trust you
…. and if the stooge puppets wanted to know if shareholders are sharing information, I would not be surprised if you are who they are relying on to get

Don’t bother replying to me, shareholders here know I’ve got a pretty good nose for smelling out rats 🧀
 
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Is there anything shareholders can do prior to AGM to stop the MMGA clowns from running for collusion concerns?
Emails, petition?
Besides voting it would be nice to know we are doing all we can to support our BOD’s.
Seems like just a distraction and there is no chance of them getting up but a lot of unknowns..hoping Friday’s court case was all about getting them removed.
I have to apologize, Moneybags is incredible paranoid. The time where you get a normal answer for a normal question is long gone. Everyone is now a Chinese spy in his eyes and the cohort behind him.

Like me, Chinese spy, whining german baby. Ok I hold more shares but that’s not important. But the whining german baby still waiting @MoneyBags1348 for the acceptance of a fight!
 
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Azzler

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Ok it's conspiracy theory time, yes it's a Saturday night and I'm on the wines again.

MMGA was always a play/ploy. They had no hope but the move was about something else.

Lets go back a bit and sit in the enemy camp, all invisible and listen in...

Cunt 1: AVZ have DRC over a barrel now, what can we do?
Cunt 2: Well Felix needs to feel like he has another option, so we need to give him something, anything, before he signs with AVZ.
Cunt 1: But there's nothing, we've gone over it all 100 times.

Cunt 3 chimes in: Hey we don't need anything real, just a promise, a hope. Felix isn't clued into AVZ politics, he wont know if it's real or a ploy.

Cunt 1 & 2: *Blank Stares*

Cunt 3: I'm saying, we just need to implement some action that in theory might take AVZ apart, but in reality, well it doesnt matter. Because all we need is more time, we delay, confuse... right? You know how we operate?

Cunt 1 & 2: Go on...

Cunt 3: Lets pay off some old AVZ directors... oh not me of course, they know that I'm an actual cunt after selling out all my shares in one devestating move... We get them to make a move to take over and spill the board!

Cunt 1 & 2: uhhh, why would anyone vote them back in? You must be joking?

Cunt 3: No no you see they will never get in, that's not the point. The point is, we get them to take the action, we spew propaganda, then we present to Felix this action, and he doesnt know shit right, the dumb fuck. We tell him we can get AVZ's court cases abandoned with these new directors.

Cunt 1 & 2: uhhh... but what happens when it never happ..

Cunt 3: You're missing the point. What is our play boys? We delay, confuse, while behind the scenes we move. The more time we have the more chance we have of success. Delay delay delay. Felix's greedy eyes glaze over at the thought of stealing Manono, he'll be thinking "why not see if they can pull it off first? Maybe I'll wait a little longer, after all I need a new watch, this cheap thing didn't even cost half a million."

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I have to apologize, Moneybags is incredible paranoid. The time where you get a normal answer for a normal question is long gone. Everyone is now a Chinese spy in his eyes and the cohort behind him.

Like me, Chinese spy, whining german baby. Ok I hold more shares but that’s not important. But the whining german baby still waiting @MoneyBags1348 for the acceptance of a fight!
STFU dickhead.
 
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