AVZ Discussion 2022

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[John Reed]

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[ptlas]

Have been told they are still working on it so may not be today but should be sometime next week.

Imminent

 

[Winenut]

In my opinion it will be the best if BoD stop the TH and open the Market. So everybody of us can decide if he want to sell or not.

I is really goods at English for reals

Wiv a names like Peter Clark wot else is there eh...??

 

[Winenut]

What's your problem ?

I don't like the colour of my fuchsia's against the backdrop of the deep green ivy and muted dark grey pallete of the distanced textured wall

What's yours?

 

[John Reed]

Came across Trendmaps in a google search when looking for the Kongopress tweet.

It revealed someone in Vietnam, (also Phuket- we know who that is) but Vietnam, the only person I know of in Vietnam for business who allegedly trolled AVZ was the guy running Mastermines,
But could be anyone… anyway worth a look, Trendmaps. I found it frustrating to use in terms of features

 

[Winenut]

The cavalry's arrived!

 

[Hemicuda]

I don't like the colour of my fuchsia's against the backdrop of the deep green ivy and muted dark grey pallete of the distanced textured wall

What's yours?

pretty sure he hasn't found the cheese yet

 

[Flight996]

If you want a view of where we could be headed, read the following:

In 2016, DIGOIL (a US oil and gas explorer) took the DRC govt to the International Court of Arbitration over the DRC's failure to honor two contracts for oil exploration and production, causing DIGOIL to incur significant losses and lose the opportunity to develop the oil fields (sound familiar?).

DIGOIL was vindicated, and awarded over $619 million in damages, including legal costs by the International Court of Arbitration in Paris (all good so far).

In 2019, the DRC govt appealed to the Paris Court of Appeal, which rejected the DRC's arguments and authorized enforcement of the arbitral award. DIGOIL then sought to confirm the award in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia, which entered a default judgment against the DRC and confirmed the arbitral award against them (three years later, still good).

Since the DRC is a signatory to the International Centre for Settlement of Investment Disputes (ICSID) Convention, and a Contracting State to the 1958 New York Convention on the Recognition and Enforcement of Foreign Arbitral Awards (New York Convention), it is bound by its rules. If the DRC decides to not cough up any future settlement amount, the appellant can apply to have the DRC’s local assets forfeited in order to meet the arbital award (the appellant can also utilise the legal system of any other nation where the DRC has assets in order to get restitution).

If this is not resolved this year, we potentially risk a decade of court cases and appeals. Happy days…

Cheers
F

 

[Dijon101]

pretty sure he hasn't found the cheese yet

Peter Clark.
Turns up, posts rubbish in broken english, gets ridiculed, continues on with agenda.

Like ffs I think most of understand we invested in a country with MASSIVE sovereign risk. Our BoD followed all the rules, followed the mining code. Hired competent lawyers well versed in DRC laws . AVZ spent the money, did the exploration. We uncovered a monster deposit.

We then proceeded to get fucked over by corruption and the Chinese who wanted to take the resource illegally.

The law is on our side, corruption and dirty politics are not.

 

[John25]

The cavalry's arrived!

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Hurry up Nut …running out of Time/Cash

 

[Dijon101]

If you want a view of where we could be headed, read the following:

In 2016, DIGOIL (a US oil and gas explorer) took the DRC govt to the International Court of Arbitration over the DRC's failure to honor two contracts for oil exploration and production, causing DIGOIL to incur significant losses and lose the opportunity to develop the oil fields (sound familiar?).

DIGOIL was vindicated, and awarded over $619 million in damages, including legal costs by the International Court of Arbitration in Paris (all good so far).

In 2019, the DRC govt appealed to the Paris Court of Appeal, which rejected the DRC's arguments and authorized enforcement of the arbitral award. DIGOIL then sought to confirm the award in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia, which entered a default judgment against the DRC and confirmed the arbitral award against them (three years later, still good).

Since the DRC is a signatory to the International Centre for Settlement of Investment Disputes (ICSID) Convention, and a Contracting State to the 1958 New York Convention on the Recognition and Enforcement of Foreign Arbitral Awards (New York Convention), it is bound by its rules. If the DRC decides to not cough up any future settlement amount, the appellant can apply to have the DRC’s local assets forfeited in order to meet the arbital award (the appellant can also utilise the legal system of any other nation where the DRC has assets in order to get restitution).

If this is not resolved this year, we potentially risk a decade of court cases and appeals. Happy days…

Cheers
F

I don't think the DRC gives two shits about a ICC ruling or have any intention of abiding to any ruling or paying any fine.

The mentally of corruption is so engrained into the culture that I see little hope of change.

Absolute shit show. Tribalism, corruption, poverty, political instability, insurgency, warfare.

I feel sorry for the common people who have to put up with those higher up that just exploit them and their countries wealth for the benefit of the few.

Short sighted currupt fucking kunts running things.

 

[Flight996]

I don't think the DRC gives two shits about a ICC ruling or have any intention of abiding to any ruling or paying any fine.

The mentally of corruption is so engrained into the culture that I see little hope of change.

Absolute shit show. Tribalism, corruption, poverty, political instability, insurgency, warfare.

I feel sorry for the common people who have to put up with those higher up that just exploit them and their countries wealth for the benefit of the few.

Short sighted currupt fucking kunts running things.

I kinda think you are right Dijon 101

I don't know how this will play out, but suspect that a negotiated settlement of least worst outcomes is on the cards. Even the DRC govt, corrupt to the bone marrow as it is, doesn't want Manono tied up forever in litigation. After all it's destined for greatness through its principle place in the global electric revolution (haha).

Cheers
F

 

[Mr Clean]

Peter Clark.
Turns up, posts rubbish in broken english, gets ridiculed, continues on with agenda.

Like ffs I think most of understand we invested in a country with MASSIVE sovereign risk. Our BoD followed all the rules, followed the mining code. Hired competent lawyers well versed in DRC laws . AVZ spent the money, did the exploration. We uncovered a monster deposit.

We then proceeded to get fucked over by corruption and the Chinese who wanted to take the resource illegally.

The law is on our side, corruption and dirty politics are not.

Peter is a pet. He has his uses. If he didn’t say anything, it may have taken days before someone recognised the change on the CAMI portal.

 

[Azzler]

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OMG PLEASE put this on twitter and tag him

 

[Retrobyte]

Graeme has given us a wink too ....

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Anyone who has read my comments knows…. I don’t like being here, but I do it because I want AVZ to succeed. Not just for me, also for shareholder’s I have developed relationships with as well as the poor people of Manono.

I’m holding off for the moment, but still gathering information and looking at ways to add it to any media promoting the DRC MINING WEEK events in June and September.

Mupande, CAMI and THE VUKA GROUP are front and centre of these events and if they want to keep fucking us around and now taking us off the CAMI portal, then we might as well let international investors know what doing business in the DRC involves.

I’m attaching my latest post on the DRC MINING WEEK thread and the link so shareholders can reach all the information on it. I don’t want comments tying the thread up, just want the facts clearly presented. I’ve provided clear facts and information, it’s up to shareholders to decide what they want to do

I’m not sure how many shareholders read this thread…. But there is more than enough evidence of corruption and extortion in the DRC mining sector to inform potential international investors ahead of the two DRC MINING WEEK events (June and September).

The evidence includes AVZ Minerals work (over the last 6 years in the DRC) developing the Manono Lithium Project as the majority shareholder in Dathcom, and includes the recent ICC (International Court of Arbitration) ruling, declaring Cominiere’s attempts to terminate AVZ’s partnership in the Dathcom joint venture as unlawful.

The evidence also shows that CAMI has now removed AVZ Minerals from holding the Exploration Rights (PR) on the 13359 tenement on the Landfolio Cadastre Map Portal

https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...230417+New+legal+action+to+affirm+interests+i

DRC MINING WEEK 2023

Here is the agenda of DRC Mining Week 2023 scheduled for June 14 to 16 in Lubumbashi As announced, DRC Mining Week opens its doors from June 14 to 16, 2023 at Karavia Hotel in Lubumbashi in the province of Haut-Katanga in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC). The day of June 14, 2023 is...

thestockexchange.com.au

 

[Spikerama]

OMG PLEASE put this on twitter and tag him

Don't be fuckin' stupid.

 

[MoneyBags1348]

My strategy regarding the above comments is that if we present enough information and apply enough pressure regarding the Mining Week events, the government might realise its doing them more harm than good by not openly supporting us.

I also noticed that on Cominiere’s website, there seems to be some changes to how many tenements Dathcom now have. I’m not going back through my notes to make comparisons, I just put the link here in case anyone else is interested in doing it

La Cominière SA

cominiere.cd

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Partnership​

A. Contrats de Joint-venture​

CODE	TYPE	OBSERVATION	JV EN COULEUR
12202	PE	DECHU	MANOMIN
12203	PR		SEGMAL
12204	PR		SEGMAL
12205	PR		SEGMAL
12206	PR		COMINIERE
12436	PR		DATHCOM mining SAS
12437	PR		COMINIERE
12438	PR		UATT
12439	PR		UATT
12440	PR		UATT
12441	PR		UATT
12442	PR		TANbGANIKA
12443	PR		SOMIMI
12444	PR		SOMIMI
12445	PR		SOMIMI
12447	PR		UNITED COMINIERE SAS
12448	PR		UNITED COMINIERE SAS
12449	PR		DATHCOM mining SAS
12450	PR		DATHCOM mining SAS
12452	PR		LOND HAO COM
12453	PR		COMFORCE
12454	PR		DATHCOM mining SAS
12455	PR		UATT
12456	PR		SOMIMI
12457	PE		COMINIERE
12458	PR		TANbGANIKA
12459	PR		DATHCOM mining SAS
12460	PR		UNITED COMINIERE SAS
12461	PR		COMINIERE
12462	PR		UNITED COMINIERE SAS
12463	PR		COMINIERE
12707	PR		MURUMBI mineral
12708	PR		MURUMBI mineral
13065	PE		SEGMALE
13244	PE		UATT
13245	PE		UATT
13246	PE		UATT
13247	PE		COMFORCE
13348	PR		MINOCOM mining SAS
13359	PR		DATHCOM mining SAS
13698	PER		MINOCOM mining SAS

© Copyright La Cominière SA 2023

 

[cruiser51]

Council of minister has been and uneventful, chaired by the PM.

President was missing in action.

Still waiting for youtube availability of translation.