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Chinese domestic lithium market pricing surged 3.9% in August, nearing all time highs

China’s domestic market saw lithium carbonate prices gain sharp momentum towards the end of August as cathode manufacturers looked to restock material following downstream demand for LFP and high voltage NCM 622 cathode technology.

Benchmark Mineral Intelligence says prices surged by 3.9% over the period of August 3 – 31 to an average RMB 472,000/tonne ($68,450) at the end of the month, whilst battery grade lithium carbonate climbed by 3.3% to RMB 487,500/tonne ($70,700) in the same period.

Spodumene concentrate prices also underwent a slight rise as the upper end for spot volumes increased, in addition to contract pricing containing formulas tied to lithium chemicals prices also seeing a slight uptick at the lower end.

At the lower end of pricing, the price increased to $3,400/tonne, whilst the upper end of the range increased to $6,350/tonne, marked by Pilbara Minerals’ Battery Material Exchange auction price for 5,000 tonnes of SC5.5.

“We anticipate spodumene contract pricing to remain relatively stable going into early Q4 2022,” Benchmark said.

“However, with demand for lithium chemicals rising in the near term, there remains potential for upside on the spot market.”



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Coal, lithium, uranium stocks continue to rock

Pilbara Minerals shares stormed to an all time high after JP Morgan slapped a $4.10 price target on the battery metals monster, lifting 7% to $3.96 a share, with the rest of the lithium sector charging in tow.

The market continued the dominance of the coal, lithium and uranium thematics that have run the ASX mining sector for the past month as other metals have faltered on negative news coming out of China, the main customer for most commodity markets.

How China Is Driving Demand for EVs

Headline-grabbing reports of the troubled state of China’s financial system have overshadowed a lone bright spot in the world’s second-largest economy—green technology.

China has dominated the area for years, and the slowdown in the overall economy has not managed to put much of a dent in the fast-moving sector, analysts said.

These areas include electric vehicles, battery production, and the manufacture and installation of solar panels and wind-energy systems—all sectors that China overwhelmingly leads in.

All of this is forging ahead despite some of the worst times for China’s economy in decades.


Its strict Covid lockdowns have ground economic activity to a halt in multiple regions through the year.

Its long-running property crisis just recorded its 11th straight month of sales-price declines.

And the uncertainly about when, or if, things will get better has kept consumers from opening their wallets.

“The [green tech] industry has confronted several ‘black swan’ events this year—the Shanghai lockdown and most recently the power crunch affecting Sichuan Province and Chongqing, which is presenting problems for EV owners and how they charge their vehicles due to the limitations placed on electricity usage,” said Lei Xing, former editor-in-chief of Beijing-based China Auto Review.

“But these are short term hiccups that will not affect industry growth in the long run, though this power crunch is a wake-up call for the country’s grid system in the advent of an EV-dominant market,” he told Barron’s.


As Barron’s has noted, China’s issues have led to significant weakness in electric-vehicle stocks like Li Auto and Xpeng, with Li deliveries declining 52% in August from a year earlier.

But strong sales in the first half of September could help turn things around.

And one of the very few areas consumers remain keen to spend on is EVs.

China is projected to sell at least six million new-energy vehicles this year, double the three million it sold last year and five times the 2022 forecast for U.S. sales, according to the China Passenger Car Association.

Lei said next year China EV sales could hit “double-digit millions.”

“Chinese consumer demand for EVs is growing considerably given government support but also falling prices and maturity of EV technologies,” said Ash Sutcliffe, external public relations director of Volvo owner Geely, a fast-growing midlevel player whose first-half sales of pure EVs leapt 520% compared with the same period last year.

Part of this is due to China’s aggressive campaign to install charging stations around the country.

“Consumers are increasingly drawn toward electrified vehicles for fuel savings that are matched by strong EV infrastructure support making them more convenient than gasoline vehicles in many instances,” Sutcliffe told Barron’s.

Though Tesla’s vehicles—most of which are produced in China—are purely electric, new-energy state-owned car leader BYD far outsold the American company in China this year with its combination of pure electric and plug-in hybrids.

Part of the slowdown for Tesla —which could not be reached for comment—was due to a pause in production as it revamped its massive Shanghai factory.

In nearly every area of renewable and electric energy, China may be having its best year ever.

Chinese leading battery maker Contemporary Amperex Technology (CATL) has shocked investors by reporting a leap in profits and revenue, on the heels of a terrible start to the year.

First-half profits jumped 82% year-over-year while revenue rose 156%.

Last year, China invested $380 billion in clean energy, far more than the $235 billion North America invested, according to data from the Atomic Energy Agency.

U.S. President Joseph Biden upped that number significantly with his recently signed $370 billion clean energy bill.

But China has had a head start in the sector for a decade, and it will take years of massive investment for other countries to catch up.

As with the electric auto industry in China, other green-energy sectors have benefited from generous government subsidies.

China last year held roughly half of the world’s renewable energy capacity, according to the International Renewable Energy Agency.

This year has been even more aggressive.

China is on pace install a record 156 gigawatts of solar panels and wind turbines, government-affiliated think tank the China Renewable Energy Engineering Institute said in June.

The majority of those will be solar panels, the group said, though last year, China added new wind capacity equal to the rest of the world combined.

www.marketwatch.com


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Nut ,my Italian connection …meet “The Mafia” Winnie/Luca …2 x 50kg Italian Maremma's our stock guardian dogs …havent lost chicken/lamb since we’ve had them View attachment 16022
Great Italian dogs bred for that very purpose

Sophie Thomson from Gardening Australia has them on her property in the Adelaide Hills for exactly the same reason

No lambs but a good amount of chickens!

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Cool

I love Italian restaurants and wine!

The Italian in your post was molto bene

I like to think I have restaurant Italian....

Un tavolo per due persone per favore

Ci...

Grazie

And I know what pollo, agnello, anatra, gamberi, coniglio etc are....not that it matters it's all good!!!

Personally I'm very proud of my Italian heritage

The trouble is........I just don't have one!!! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
I think there's a typo in there - didn't you mean to say "hermitage" and not heritage?
TC.
 
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Great Italian dogs bred for that very purpose

Sophie Thomson from Gardening Australia has them on her property in the Adelaide Hills for exactly the same reason

No lambs but a good amount of chickens!

Cheers :cool:
Maybe we'll see Costa in a hermit cave on the cliffs from the yaght Wino!
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It is not true. Consider case of Langford and Mineral Resources. I have a hunch how that went
Whats not true bro ?

Class action ?

Try and be a bit more specific........;)

I dont follow the trail of Langford.........i knew he got a rebuke for having a big mouth back in 2018 / 2019 from memory ( the easter egg fiasco was a beauty ), but no knowledge of a class action......:unsure:

Dont follow the trials and tribulations of MINRES either...........I am a penny stock follower primarily.

Lots of dodgy shit goes on in stock market land i know..........but what percentage of that dodgy shit actually follows up in class action and gets a win ?

Fucking small i reckon.

Jason Brewer fucked me over and plenty others big time at WFE , VEC...............yet the scum got to walk away in the sunset with a payout no less.......:mad::mad::mad::eek::eek::eek:

I was a shareholder advocate with WFE..........sent plenty of emails and saw him one on one personally more than once with queries / concerns and the fucker gave me the warm and fuzzy , then the reality was a complete opposite, which is why i dont bother going to AGMs, or conferences, cause they are full of shit, only formal ASX announcements do i take notice of, cause thats the only avenue to persecute if you are cluey enuff to piece the puzzle together, even then, good luck, ASIC is a toothless tiger and may as well not exist..........IMO

Thats my experience.
 
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Like the good old days when you'd just go in with a shovel and pick and try your luck . Milk was 8 cents a litre and we'd play cricket in the street until the sun went down .
 
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Like the good old days when you'd just go in with a shovel and pick and try your luck . Milk was 8 cents a litre and we'd play cricket in the street until the sun went down .
Yeah I reckon this lot went straight for a few wickets and vb's after the days work
 
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When the only stock you hold has been suspended ( 4 months) what else is there too do
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You like to live dangerously lol

Hopefully it works out
Thanks CHB …wasnt long ago i was a multi $$$$aire …..would love to visit that space again SOON :)
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Whats not true bro ?

Class action ?

Try and be a bit more specific........;)

I dont follow the trail of Langford.........i knew he got a rebuke for having a big mouth back in 2018 / 2019 from memory ( the easter egg fiasco was a beauty ), but no knowledge of a class action......:unsure:

Dont follow the trials and tribulations of MINRES either...........I am a penny stock follower primarily.

Lots of dodgy shit goes on in stock market land i know..........but what percentage of that dodgy shit actually follows up in class action and gets a win ?

Fucking small i reckon.

Jason Brewer fucked me over and plenty others big time at WFE , VEC...............yet the scum got to walk away in the sunset with a payout no less.......:mad::mad::mad::eek::eek::eek:

I was a shareholder advocate with WFE..........sent plenty of emails and saw him one on one personally more than once with queries / concerns and the fucker gave me the warm and fuzzy , then the reality was a complete opposite, which is why i dont bother going to AGMs, or conferences, cause they are full of shit, only formal ASX announcements do i take notice of, cause thats the only avenue to persecute if you are cluey enuff to piece the puzzle together, even then, good luck, ASIC is a toothless tiger and may as well not exist..........IMO

Thats my experience.


It’s important to not mystify. I’ve stated my concerns and heard opposing views. It is clear when Zijin made itself very vocal, AVZ notified ASX to halt trade. The matter clearly reached a threshold for AVZ and ASX. It doesn’t mean any one of us should accept that timing

I suggest resist perceiving investment as an extension of the casino but risk reward does factor in pursuing a matter.

Hopefully there’s a lot of great news to over ride this sovereign risk
 
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It’s important to not mystify. I’ve stated my concerns and heard opposing views. It is clear when Zijin made itself very vocal, AVZ notified ASX to halt trade. The matter clearly reached a threshold for AVZ and ASX. It doesn’t mean any one of us should accept that timing

I suggest resist perceiving investment as an extension of the casino but risk reward does factor in pursuing a matter.

Hopefully there’s a lot of great news to over ride this sovereign risk
So you're suggesting that we are in suspension due to the Zijin fiasco?
 
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wait we are in suspension?
Whaaaat? Was wondering why my buy order at $1.62 wasn’t getting hit. And I just thought no one was selling!! D’oh!!
 
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I don't know.....I'm still lining up a pineapple :ROFLMAO:
Don't you mean ananas?
 
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