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Major article appearing today in Australia's premier daily financial newspaper The Australian Financial Review. This is great publicity

Why a Perth resources play has bet on batteries in the Arctic Circle

Hans van Leeuwen Europe correspondent
Dec 5, 2022 – 8.10am

In the back blocks of the remote northern Swedish town of Lulea, in an unremarkable shed, a posse of Australian-backed engineers and scientists is cooking something up.Their modest factory bears no resemblance to the chaotic kitchen of The Muppet Show’s Swedish chef. Except that there’s a gadget that looks like a super-complicated kettle, and one resembles a giant mixer, and something that looks like a row of microwave ovens, feeding into a large kiln. He would probably feel right at home.Talga Resources staff make anode materials for batteries at the demonstration plant in Lulea, northern Sweden.

The demonstration plant, run by Perth-based ASX minnow Talga Group, isn’t producing anything remotely edible, of course. But the product it is dishing up – graphite anode materials for batteries – has European carmakers salivating.Sales of electric vehicles (EVs) rose 65 per cent in Europe last year. The EU has set a 2035 target to phase out the internal combustion engine, so the potential growth trajectory is exponential.Worldwide demand for batteries will surge 30 per cent a year this decade, McKinsey’s reckons, and the battery value chain’s size will increase tenfold by 2030.
That’s already leading to a scramble for all the commodities and components that go into making batteries. But in Europe, where more than a quarter of EVs are made, the problem is particularly acute.European drivers want cars with a supply chain that is as near to net-zero carbon emissions as possible – so for the carmakers, only some batteries will do.And European governments want supply chains that are no longer reliant on China – from where some 85 per cent of the world’s battery anodes and 70 per cent of cathodes now originate.

This is where Talga, headed by affable managing director Mark Thompson, comes in. They want to make anode battery material in Europe, with greenly extracted graphite. And they want to move fast but – unlike the Swedish chef – without breaking things.Talga’s demonstration plant, in the back blocks of Lulea. “A lot of people don’t realise just how much graphite there is in a battery. The graphite in the anode is the largest single mineral in the battery,” he says.“We just thought it was essentially a no-brainer that Europe was going to need its own supply of graphite anode. And that’s what we’ve started doing, and we’re scaling up fast.”

The graphite will come from Talga’s own Swedish mine in the pine forests of Vittangi, right up in the Arctic Circle. This gets Talga’s product over the first European hurdle: the need for a local supply chain.Talga’s test graphite mine in Vittangi, in Sweden’s far north. And it’s also green: rather than relying on carbon-intensive synthetic graphite, the mine yields graphite in its natural form. And because the region has abundant hydropower, the mine can operate on renewable energy.With that confluence of factors, Thompson reckons northern Sweden should be the “breadbasket of the battery industry”.

His initial mine will exploit a 1.2 kilometre-long, 200-metre deep ore body. It will produce 19,500 tonnes of graphite a year, eventually rising over the mine’s 24-year life to 100,000 tonnes a year.Permitting is expected in the first half of next year, but Talga has been operating a test mine.The graphite extracted so far – about one-quarter of a year’s supply – has been sent to Finland for crushing and grinding, then to Belgium for purification. The resulting fine powder then ends up at the demonstration plant in Lulea, which is actually only 280 kilometres south of Vittangi.Eventually the plan is to mill and concentrate the graphite at Vittangi itself, and send two truckloads a day down to Lulea for purification and anode production.
One size doesn’t fit all
At the Lulea demonstration plant, about a dozen people oversee a process in which Talga’s graphite is turned from flakes into rounded and coated particles that battery makers use in their anodes.The process is complex, but the economics are probably the trickiest part. If the company was just offering lithium, nickel or cobalt, that would essentially be one-size-fits-all. With graphite, though, the battery maker has to test and retest the material, to make sure it works with specific products.It has to be “the right shape, the right crystallinity, the right chemistry, the right performance, before it goes into a customer product”, Thompson says. And that takes time.Graphite isn’t like other commodities - buyers have to test the product extensively.

An anode materials producer like Talga will typically start off by sending a customer just a few kilograms, known as an “A sample”. If those check out, the customers will ask for a “B sample” of at least several hundred kilos, then a “C sample” of, say, a couple of tonnes or even several dozen tonnes.By this point the company and its customer are starting to get pretty committed. At “D sample” level, the customer is going into production with that material.“It’s an almost continuous scale of qualification, until you reach the level where they’re happy to go ahead. That’s why what we’ve done is maybe more of an achievement than gets recognised,” Thompson says.This makes financing difficult, too: you have to be making plenty of samples before you can get committed customers, known as offtakers; but you often need offtakers to get capital.Otherwise, you need lenders who understand the product – which wasn’t easy, until the battery boom got going.“It has been relatively challenging. But it is happening faster and faster now,” Thompson says.

After all, “batteries are the new oil”.Offtakers in the wings?Shareholders seem reasonably au fait with the story. The stock used to trade at about 70¢, but during the first boom in EV sales in 2020, the price went on a month-long tear that ended at $2.Its record high was $2.10 almost exactly a year ago, but it now trades at about $1.40, having shed about 16 per cent this year. That 2022 performance is roughly on a par with the L&G Battery Value Chain ETF.In the past week, there has been mixed news. The mining side of the project has passed preliminary screening for a potential European Investment Bank loan of €300 million ($465 million).But Talga missed a November 30 deadline to nail down its first binding offtake agreement for its flagship anode product, Talnode-C. That would have been a full-fat version of a September non-binding deal with ACC, a battery maker owned by Mercedes-Benz and Stellantis, which makes brands including Fiat, Peugeot and Chrysler.“Talga and ACC expect to finalise negotiations and definitive documentation shortly,” Talga said in an ASX statement last week. But it added a rider: “There can be no guarantee the documentation will be finalised.”

Thompson says Talga has “a bunch of other customers that are interested”, and the ABCD sample production process is “starting to mature now” with some of those. Assuming that the US Inflation Reduction Act and the rising costs of production in Europe don’t change the European battery industry’s dynamics, Talga hopes to have a commercial-scale plant operating in Lulea by late 2024.“We’ve got this really high-grade graphite deposit, we’ve proven that it can work in batteries, we’ve worked out the processing route, we’ve worked out how to make the final product so that you don’t have to send it to China and bring it back in again,” Thompson says.“And we made the real thing entirely within just a couple of days’ drive from Germany and France, where a lot of cars get built, and where batteries are going to get built as well.”Expansion plansTalga began life as a gold explorer, and first picked out the Swedish graphite opportunity in 2012. As this project slowly subsumed the company, is there any sense in which it retains an Aussie twang?“We are swapping over from that Australian equity market scene to a European project financed for European customers, which is the original intent and what it should be,” Thompson says.

But the bigger change to Talga’s identity could come as it expands its range of products and activities over time.The company is exploring partnerships in synthetic graphite, because European customers still want it – they just want it greener. It is also looking at deploying its graphite on the cathode side of the battery.And customers are showing an interest in a silicon anode, which can give the graphite an energy boost. “We are reviewing places where that could take place if that was to commercialise, including in the UK,” Thompson says.“If our assets and technology can work around the world in different ways, we’ll do that,” Thompson says. “But what we’re doing is already extremely ambitious and challenging. And we’re doing it into a world that doesn’t know much about it. So we’ve sort of got to walk before we can run.”
If you had looked carefully you could have discovered the test series A to D in the pictures of the AGM presentation:

Here I have to ask myself the question of the code that was assigned to the test samples. stand these TTLs for LTT, i.e. Long Time Technology Co Ltd for Foxconn? Using the same coding tactics would then result in codes like BM, VN, WMB. We should keep our eyes open 🧐😅
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Does anyone on TSE speak Swedish? The ‘Kritiska Mineraler’ segment on Swedish media mentions needing critical metals and minerals. Graphite gets a mention, he briefly states Vittangi and Norbotten. Would be good if anyone had Swedish up their sleeve. I tried Cosor's DeepL app, which I’ve used in the past successfully, but my PC speakers could not cope with the speed, and translating the words got a bit jumbled. Nevertheless, the theme continues, which is great to see.

https://www.tv4play.se/program/nyhe...ler-som-behövs-i-klimatomställningen/13805401
 
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Does anyone on TSE speak Swedish? The ‘Kritiska Mineraler’ segment on Swedish media mentions needing critical metals and minerals. Graphite gets a mention, he briefly states Vittangi and Norbotten. Would be good if anyone had Swedish up their sleeve. I tried Cosor's DeepL app, which I’ve used in the past successfully, but my PC speakers could not cope with the speed, and translating the words got a bit jumbled. Nevertheless, the theme continues, which is great to see.

https://www.tv4play.se/program/nyhe...ler-som-behövs-i-klimatomställningen/13805401
Try it addressed to @lellep a Swedish student. He has already posted here, but he hasn't spoken for a while.
Presumably we will already know all about it, since the information will certainly come from the government report of the SGU. But it is always worth a try.
 
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Try it addressed to @lellep a Swedish student. He has already posted here, but he hasn't spoken for a while.
Presumably we will already know all about it, since the information will certainly come from the government report of the SGU. But it is always worth a try.
Legend, great thinking. Thanks Cosors
 

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Does anyone on TSE speak Swedish? The ‘Kritiska Mineraler’ segment on Swedish media mentions needing critical metals and minerals. Graphite gets a mention, he briefly states Vittangi and Norbotten. Would be good if anyone had Swedish up their sleeve. I tried Cosor's DeepL app, which I’ve used in the past successfully, but my PC speakers could not cope with the speed, and translating the words got a bit jumbled. Nevertheless, the theme continues, which is great to see.

https://www.tv4play.se/program/nyhe...ler-som-behövs-i-klimatomställningen/13805401
Thanks for the link... Here's my attempt using Transcribe to Swedish text and Translate into English below in Microsoft Word!! Bold text my emphasis (no I'm not bi-lingual):

Transcription:
Klimatomställningen så behöver vi metaller och mineraler som används till exempelvis till solceller och vindkraftverk och flera av dem importerar vi trots att metallerna och mineralerna finns här i Sverige vi ska prata om detta nu med Peter åke Hammar som utredare på Sveriges geologiska undersökning askur förkortat lite enklare att säga

ja det finns mycket mineraler och metaller och annat i Sverige och vi har en karta tror jag som vi kan titta på på en gång vi ser att det finns grafit det finns litium det finns kobolt och mycket annat jag berättar lite om den här kartan vad är det vi ser det ser ut som det finns ganska mycket

ja absolut jag kanske ska gå fram och peka lite

ja som ni ser här så är det ju en massa olika metaller och mineral på den här kartan av de här metallerna som finns på den här kartan idag så är det ju faktiskt bara en som bryts i Sverige idag heller som bryr sig ifall efter fältet av Boliden tillsammans med en guld men övriga övriga metaller bryts inte i dag i Sverige det har brutits kobolt och har brutits grafit håll fram i Sverige tidigare här i Hälsingland grafit och sen pågår det ett intressant projekt här uppe i utanför vittangi ett grafit projekt som som är i tillståndsprocessen

ja du Peter kritiska mineraler dom här behövs alltså och vi ser ju här att Sverige är väldigt mineral och detaljrikt men varför importerar vi då allt det här

ja det kommer ju det kommer jag undra alltså traditionellt sett så har ju vi i Sverige vi har ju haft gruvnäring i flera 1000 år så att vi är ju starka på det är basmetaller och härmar dem alltså koppar bly zink guld och silver bryter också och järnmalm och de metallerna har vi ju därför bergsgruvan som ligger ungefär här utanför Hedemora den finns ju bevis på att det skedde brytningen redan på

ja före Kristus faktiskt så vi har ju en en och järnmalmsgruvan uppe i norr har ju upptäcktes ju någon gång på sjuttonhundratalet så vi har en stark historia skogen och malmen har byggt Sverige

ja vad skulle man kunna använda de här till er för det här är ju metaller som världen mer eller mindre skriker efter eller av mineraler

ja absolut vi kan väl ta dem ta de de mest intressanta och med uttrycker mig då det är ju de 3 översta där vi ser kobolt litium och sen sällsynta jordartsmetaller och och även grafit får räknas in i det och dom används ju i hög utsträckning i elbilar alltså i batterier så ni efterfrågan alltså

ja ja alltså för att den här efterfrågan

ja alltså för att vi ska få den gröna omställningen för att vi ska gå från fossilbaserad energi till fossilfri energi så behöver vi ha många av de här metallerna och särskilt då kobolt litium där grafit och sällsynta ju också metaller så anledningen att vi inte är självförsörjande här är för att vi inte har varit det på ganska lång tid eller hur

ja precis så jag har utan det har ju andra länder istället i huvudsak kina då som som faktiskt bryter i princip alla de här som finns listade här det finns du ska få du får vila lite också men det är inte bara Sverige som efterfrågar den här typen av mineraler och metaller utan om vi tittar på EU så är det ju många fler länder än vi där alla då har en ganska stor vilken roll skulle Sverige kunna spela här när det gäller klimatomställningen mineraler vi skulle vi skulle kunna ha en betydande roll faktiskt med med anledning av att vi har en hög biologisk potential i våran i våran värdegrund vi tillhör en jag låg eller en stor del av våran värdegrund tillhör den så kallade fennica tennis Scandic skölden som vi delar tillsammans med Norge och Finland och i norra Ryssland där också och det finns en hög potential att hitta metaller i urberget det finns en potential världen vill ha de här metallerna det behövs till klimatomställning batterier och så vidare men en gruva i sig är inte alltid så populärt det kan ju vara en miljöfara i sig eller

ja alltså enligt enligt svensk lagstiftning så är ju gruvverksamheten miljöfarlig verksamhet som som kräver tillstånd och pratar vi de här metallerna som vi har nämnt här så så krävs det ju både tillstånd enligt minerallagen och renligt miljöbalken så det är ju en skulle jag vil

ja säga en ganska rigorös process som tar lång tid som kräver mycket undersökningar utredningar från sökande bolag och startar verksamhet också och det där ofta tar stopp då eller

ja alltså om man idag har vi 12 gruvar drift men historiskt sett så har vi haft tretusen gruvor i Sverige och mest av det står III Mellansverige i Bergslagen som vi kallar då

ja vilka risker finns det med gruvverksamhet tänker på lokal påverkan alltså med gruppverksamhet har ju alltid en påverkan dels ITUN en påverkan på landskapet i landskapsbilden och och särskilt om man ska om man ska bryta i dagbrott men alltså om man bryter malmen från marken det är ju inte lika stor påverkan om man bryter under jord men absolut det har en en påverkan på på landskapet och den lokala miljön absolut det är dags att vi har pratat om att bryta uran i Sverige det tidigare partierna så ofta för att häva ett förbud som vi haft i många många år i Sverige hur har vi mycket Jordanien så vi har mycket uran i Sverige precis som det lämnar där så har vi ju haft ett uran förbud som tjugoarton

ja och som ni ser på den här kartan med alla prickar så så har vi en en hel del fyndigheter i efter fjällvärlden och II om norr och Västerbotten och även i Jämtland men även då tricken som som ligger där mellan Vänern och Vättern det är ju ramstad där vi faktiskt får sextiotalet utvann uran som numera nedlagda men Peter mot den här nya verkligheten då vi ska kalla det för det vad tror du kommer hända nu framöver

ja alltså vi har en det finns ju uran alltså uran finns ju II alvar Berglund det är ju först blir det det blir en mineralisering som man kan som kan ekonomiskt utvinnas med eller utvinnas med ekonomi som man kan prata om en fyndighet då men sen är det ju alltså det krävs ju mycket undersökningar för att kunna definiera en sådan fyndighet och sen har ju vi på på 70 åttiotalet så har ju Sverige eller faktiskt SQ när när vi när när vi hade statlig prospektering så har vi ju skruvarna har varit och projekterat alltså undersökt just efter iran med anledning av att vi har har kärnkraftverken i Sverige startbud där står sjuttiotalet också och de utredningarna lär fortsätta nu med nya det lär de säkert göra absolut tack snälla Peter för att du kom till oss tack så mycket tack


Into English:
The climate transition: we need metals and minerals that are used for, for example, solar cells and wind turbines and several of these we import, despite the fact that the metals and minerals are here in Sweden. We will talk about this now with Peter åke Hammar as investigator at the Geological Survey of Sweden abbreviated a little easier to say

Yes there are a lot of minerals and metals and other things in Sweden and we have a map I think that we can look at. At once we see that there is graphite there is lithium there is cobalt and much else I tell you a little about this map what is it we see it looks like there is quite a lot

Yes absolutely maybe I should go forward and point a little <talks to graphic on screen>

Yes as you see here, there is of course a lot of different metals and minerals on this map of these metals that are on this map today, there is actually only one that is mined in Sweden today either …… if after the field of Boliden together with gold, but … other metals are not mined today in Sweden it has been mined cobalt and has been mined graphite hold forward in Sweden earlier here in Hälsingland graphite and then there is an interesting project going on up here in outside Vittangi a graphite project that is in the permit process

Yes you Peter critical minerals they are needed so and we see here that in Sweden is very mineral and detailed but why do we import all this ?

Yes it will of course I do wonder … traditionally we have of course in Sweden we have had a mining industry for several 1000 years so that we are strong on it are base metals and mining them thus copper lead zinc gold and silver also mines for iron ore and those metals we have of course the Garpenberg mine which is located approximately here outside Hedemora. There is of course evidence that it took place the mining already on …

Yes before Christ actually so we have a one and the iron ore mine up in the north has of course been discovered sometime in the seventeenth century so we have a strong history; the forest and ore has built Sweden

Well what could you use these for, because these are metals that the world more or less screams for our minerals

Yes absolutely we can well take the most interesting and … it is of course the top 3 where we see cobalt lithium and then rare earth metals and also graphite may be counted in it and they are used to a large extent in electric cars ie in batteries so new demand …

Yes Yes then because this demand well so for us to get the green transition, for us to go from fossil-based energy to fossil-free energy, we need to have many of these metals and especially then cobalt lithium and graphite and rare earth metals so the reason we are not self-sufficient here is because we have not been <mining these> some time now.

Yes just so I have without that, it has of course left other countries instead -mainly China- then that actually … basically all these that are listed here (there are you should get you get to rest a little too!) but it is not only Sweden that demands this type of minerals and metals but if we look at the EU, as there are many more countries than us, where we all then have a pretty great role that Sweden could play here in terms of the climate transition minerals: we could we could have a significant role. Actually due to the fact that we have a high geological potential in our in our land we … belong to the so-called fennica tennis Scandic shield that we share together with Norway and Finland and in northern Russia there as well. And that there is a high potential to find metals in the bedrock. There is potential -the world wants these metals, it is needed for climate change- batteries and so on but a mine itself is not always so popular it can be an environmental hazard in itself or …

Yes thus according to Swedish legislation, the mining business is environmentally hazardous activity that requires a permit and if we talk about these metals that we have mentioned here, it is required of course both permits according to the Minerals Act and according to the Environmental Code so it is of course ….

Yes say a pretty rigorous process that takes a long time that requires a lot of research investigations from applicant companies and to start operations as well and that often stops them…

Yes if you look today we have 12 mines in operation but historically we have had three thousand mines in Sweden and most of it says, III Central Sweden in Bergslagen which we call then <<??>>

Yes, what risks are there with mining operations- thinking about local impact thus with group activities always has an impact particularly … an impact on the landscape and and especially if you are going to mine an open pit - if you mine the ore from the ground- it is of course not as big an impact if you mine underground but absolutely it has an impact on the landscape and the local environment.

Asolutely it is time that we have talked about mining uranium in Sweden the previous parties so often wanted to lift a ban that we have had for many, many years in Sweden. So we do have a lot of of uranium in Sweden and then so we have of course had a uranium ban like twenty-eighteen years..

Yes and as you see on this map with all the dots, we have a lot of deposits in around the mountain and … about north and Västerbotten and also in Jämtland but even then there are difficulties that lie there between Lake Vänern and Vättern it is of course ramstad where we actually did get in there in the sixties and extracted uranium but is now defunct…

But Peter against this new reality then we should call it- what think you will happen now in the future ?

Yes so we have there of course uranium ie uranium is found of course… butit is of course it first becomes mineralization that you have that can be economically extracted before… that you can talk about a deposit then but then it is of course it takes a lot of investigations to be able to define such a deposit and then we have in the 70s 80s, so have of course Sweden when when we had State Exploration, we have of course the …. thus investigated just after Iran because we have had nuclear power plants in Sweden start bids there are seventies also and those investigations will continue now …, they will surely do

Absolutely thank you please Peter for coming to us. Thank you so much

thank you very much

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Really appreciate this @Manual, thank you! I like the comment: the world more or less screams for our minerals
 
What a difference 7 years makes LOL..............

I will cut him some slack and point out he is in the second article speaking about graphite only.................not anodes. I'm sure when he states there are plenty of graphite mines to add to supply he must have forgotten the qualification with OEMs part.

PAUL GARVEY THE AUSTRALIAN

FEBRUARY 10, 2015 12:00AM

Veteran stockpicker Warwick Grigor bets big on graphene

VETERAN stockpicker Warwick Grigor has made his biggest bet to date, plunging millions of dollars of his own money into Swedish graphite play Talga Resources. Mr Grigor, who sold out his remaining interest in Cannacord Genuity last year, has spent $412,501 over the past four months building his position in Talga. He now owns an 8.3 per cent stake in Talga worth $3.4 million at Friday’s closing price, and he confirmed to The Australian the interest is his single biggest investment holding. “Talga to me is potentially a billion-dollar stock,” ... I’ve spent the past year studying all this and there’s nothing like it. It’s unique’

” ………” Mr Grigor’s big bet revolves around graphite and, in particular, graphene. Graphite is made up of millions of layers of graphene just a few atoms thick. Those graphene layers have vast potential for applications across a variety of hi-tech sectors, as well as as an additive to strengthen products such as carbon fibre, cement and aluminium. Separating graphite into graphene is generally an expensive and difficult process But Mr Grigor says the graphite ore from Talga’s Vittangi project in northern Sweden is particularly conducive to producing graphene. “Talga will be able to produce graphene for nominal cost, only 5-10 per cent of the cost everyone else has to pay,” he said. ……………….. The nuances of the graphite industry continue to be misunderstood not just by investors, he says, but by graphite explorers. “Most of the people operating and promoting the [graphite] companies don’t understand the business they’re dealing with. It’s amazing, the lack of knowledge the promoters have of the industry and the marketing. “There’s no shortage of graphite: it’s not about the size of the deposit, it’s about getting the metallurgy right

SO 7 YEARS LATER IN THE SAME NEWSPAPER (AUSTRALIA'S ONLY NATIONAL DAILY)

THE AUSTRALIAN

DECEMBER 8, 2022

Commodities that could rule roost in 2023 … and 24 stock picks​


WARWICK GRIGOR

Far East Capital chairman

Commodities: Plenty, but gold, copper, antimony and energy get a mention.

Companies: Emerald Resources, Cyprium Metals, Celsius, Hillgrove Resources, West Wits Mining, Nagambie Resources and Theta Gold Mines

Long-time resources doyen Warwick Grigor says Benchmark Mineral Intelligence has been “wildly bullish on graphite” but isn’t convinced of the investment thesis and sees stock selection as “difficult and dangerous”.

“There are plenty of new mines on the drawing board, so a strong supply response is available. Secondly, graphite in batteries is mature technology at its theoretical limits,” he says.

“Investors will be more inspired by the next generation of anodes that either don’t rely on graphite at all, or make it perform better with additional elements.

“So far there is not enough information in the markets for us to identify which technologies or super anodes are going to work technically, or economically. All these companies are promoting but none are yet delivering. That makes stock selection both difficult and dangerous.”



OK So................."none are yet delivering "....................Look I'm not the smartest guy around but ain't that the whole point ?


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What a difference 7 years makes LOL..............

I will cut him some slack and point out he is in the second article speaking about graphite only.................not anodes. I'm sure when he states there are plenty of graphite mines to add to supply he must have forgotten the qualification with OEMs part.

PAUL GARVEY THE AUSTRALIAN

FEBRUARY 10, 2015 12:00AM

Veteran stockpicker Warwick Grigor bets big on graphene

VETERAN stockpicker Warwick Grigor has made his biggest bet to date, plunging millions of dollars of his own money into Swedish graphite play Talga Resources. Mr Grigor, who sold out his remaining interest in Cannacord Genuity last year, has spent $412,501 over the past four months building his position in Talga. He now owns an 8.3 per cent stake in Talga worth $3.4 million at Friday’s closing price, and he confirmed to The Australian the interest is his single biggest investment holding. “Talga to me is potentially a billion-dollar stock,” ... I’ve spent the past year studying all this and there’s nothing like it. It’s unique’

” ………” Mr Grigor’s big bet revolves around graphite and, in particular, graphene. Graphite is made up of millions of layers of graphene just a few atoms thick. Those graphene layers have vast potential for applications across a variety of hi-tech sectors, as well as as an additive to strengthen products such as carbon fibre, cement and aluminium. Separating graphite into graphene is generally an expensive and difficult process But Mr Grigor says the graphite ore from Talga’s Vittangi project in northern Sweden is particularly conducive to producing graphene. “Talga will be able to produce graphene for nominal cost, only 5-10 per cent of the cost everyone else has to pay,” he said. ……………….. The nuances of the graphite industry continue to be misunderstood not just by investors, he says, but by graphite explorers. “Most of the people operating and promoting the [graphite] companies don’t understand the business they’re dealing with. It’s amazing, the lack of knowledge the promoters have of the industry and the marketing. “There’s no shortage of graphite: it’s not about the size of the deposit, it’s about getting the metallurgy right

SO 7 YEARS LATER IN THE SAME NEWSPAPER (AUSTRALIA'S ONLY NATIONAL DAILY)

THE AUSTRALIAN

DECEMBER 8, 2022

Commodities that could rule roost in 2023 … and 24 stock picks​


WARWICK GRIGOR

Far East Capital chairman

Commodities: Plenty, but gold, copper, antimony and energy get a mention.

Companies: Emerald Resources, Cyprium Metals, Celsius, Hillgrove Resources, West Wits Mining, Nagambie Resources and Theta Gold Mines

Long-time resources doyen Warwick Grigor says Benchmark Mineral Intelligence has been “wildly bullish on graphite” but isn’t convinced of the investment thesis and sees stock selection as “difficult and dangerous”.

“There are plenty of new mines on the drawing board, so a strong supply response is available. Secondly, graphite in batteries is mature technology at its theoretical limits,” he says.

“Investors will be more inspired by the next generation of anodes that either don’t rely on graphite at all, or make it perform better with additional elements.

“So far there is not enough information in the markets for us to identify which technologies or super anodes are going to work technically, or economically. All these companies are promoting but none are yet delivering. That makes stock selection both difficult and dangerous.”



OK So................."none are yet delivering "....................Look I'm not the smartest guy around but ain't that the whole point ?


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This is one of the most ingenious GIFs I know! Do you have any idea where it came from, i.e. from which film? Somehow it seems to remind me but I can't figure it out and Google Lens can't help me either.

Oh well, it's about time that our time finally comes.) For the impatient an off take before Christmas and for the patient ones permits (both) around March. I just hope that the world economy won't be too bad by then and that the matter will be properly acknowledged, even if appeals are inevitable. But it will be rejected quickly, that's my plan. We will probably get a catalogue of requirements like our neighbours Kaunis Iron. They can go ahead if they adhere to the requirements. Drunk with happiness like the three above they now study these 60 points to get an overview.
 
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From today's Sunday Times

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Good, on point summary :)
 
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A bit of talk about Talga from 6:40 on, but rather basic conversation.
 
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Talga Group Advances Plant Expansion after Hitting Customer Targets​

By Mahlia Stewart, 14/12/2022

Perth-based graphite and silicon anode developer Talga Group [ASX:TLG] updated its shareholders on the latest for its graphite anode materials for battery production in Europe earlier on Wednesday.

The electric vehicle (EV) materials producer shared the achievement of hitting its Tier-1 automotive, qualification, and customer testing targets and makes way for expansion plans for its German pilot plant in Q1 2023.

TLG’s shareholders were receptive to the news and upvoted the graphite miner’s share price nearer to 6% in the early afternoon, boosting its share price in the month by more than 14%.

Chart of TLG Talga Group chart prices


Source: TradingView

Talga heads for mass commercialisation of Talnode®-Si

The battery materials producer said it had moved closer to commercialising its graphite and silicon anode product Talnode®-Si, which has now passed the customer qualification process and further drives viability for its use in Li-ion batteries.

Talnode-Si is a composite of graphite, graphene and 50% silicon, which has been designed to boost battery energy capacity when blended with existing commercial graphite anode materials.

The Talnode product has been in development since 2018 at Talga’s facilities in Cambridge, UK, with commercial samples being produced at its pilot facility in Rudolstadt, Germany.

With the company’s most recent qualification and pilot trials now confirming Talnode-Si’s exceptional results under commercial cell manufacturing conditions, as tested with a global EV manufacturer, Talga can now accelerate its commercial production plans.

Talga stated that the recent qualification and pilot trials under commercial cell manufacturing conditions resulted in a boost to the battery energy capacity by around 40%.

And at this stage of development, test results of first-cycle efficiency and 500-cycle life have exceeded customer targets to date.

With these glowing results under its belt, Talga has now decided to expand its existing pilot line in Rudolstadt, Germany. The company will aim to produce greater quantities of Talnode-Si for commercial qualification.

Commissioning of the expanded pilot line is to be completed in Q1 2023, selecting an ideal location is underway, and the company will also begin feasibility works towards accelerating its commercial production options.

Talga’s Managing Director, Mark Thompson, commented:

We are very pleased with the rapid advancements across Talnode®-Si customer qualification and scale-up. The commercialisation of our silicon-graphene composite will complement our flagship Talnode®-C graphite anode product and diversify Talga’s business growth.’

Europe preps for net zero and Talga is well positioned

Last year, EV sales went up 65% in Europe.

The EU has set a 2035 target to phase out its carbon-heavy combustion engine, making way for a rapid growth trajectory.

Talga notes there has been a huge rise in market interest in scaling production for silicon anodes outside China, which has been flagged by global equipment manufacturers and battery makers.

Benchmark Mineral Intelligence forecasts the 2030 anode market share for silicon anode to be 5% or around 150,000 tonnes a year.

Talga expects to soon finalise its negotiations with European battery maker Automotive Cells Company (ACC), hoping to form a legally binding agreement regarding the supply of graphite anode from Talga’s Vittangi Anode Project in Sweden.

Talga is already in talks with other leading global EV manufacturers to secure agreements on supply volumes, which will be crucial in the next phase of the anode producer’s development.

Resources boom — an insider’s attack plan

The next big mining boom is predicted to happen in the next few years.

Similar patterns that occurred 20 years ago are happening again.

Rich and powerful execs were reaping big gains last time.

But this time, you can get insider intel from an on-the-ground veteran geologist, our commodities expert, James Cooper.

James is ‘convinced the gears are in motion for another multi-year boom’, and Australia is in line to benefit.

You can access James’s plan of attack, get his unique and exclusive insight into the industry, and watch back the informative Q&A session by viewing his recent appearance at Ausbiz.

This event will only be live for a few days — gain access here!

Regards,

Mahlia Stewart,
For Money Morning"

https://www.moneymorning.com.au/202...expansion-after-hitting-customer-targets.html

Finally, what we have been waiting for for so long is happening. Not only is more and more being written and talked about graphite for EVs, but also directly about us. Now I am waiting for my own country to wake up and publish the first article in German in a big magazine. Next week is another full working week. Maybe we'll hear something about ACC, otherwise I don't really expect it between Christmas and New Year's Eve, would be very uncommon.
 
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MONEYMORNING

Talga Group Advances Plant Expansion after Hitting Customer Targets​

By Mahlia Stewart, 14/12/2022

Perth-based graphite and silicon anode developer Talga Group [ASX:TLG] updated its shareholders on the latest for its graphite anode materials for battery production in Europe earlier on Wednesday.

The electric vehicle (EV) materials producer shared the achievement of hitting its Tier-1 automotive, qualification, and customer testing targets and makes way for expansion plans for its German pilot plant in Q1 2023.

TLG’s shareholders were receptive to the news and upvoted the graphite miner’s share price nearer to 6% in the early afternoon, boosting its share price in the month by more than 14%.

Chart of TLG Talga Group chart prices


Source: TradingView

Talga heads for mass commercialisation of Talnode®-Si

The battery materials producer said it had moved closer to commercialising its graphite and silicon anode product Talnode®-Si, which has now passed the customer qualification process and further drives viability for its use in Li-ion batteries.

Talnode-Si is a composite of graphite, graphene and 50% silicon, which has been designed to boost battery energy capacity when blended with existing commercial graphite anode materials.

The Talnode product has been in development since 2018 at Talga’s facilities in Cambridge, UK, with commercial samples being produced at its pilot facility in Rudolstadt, Germany.

With the company’s most recent qualification and pilot trials now confirming Talnode-Si’s exceptional results under commercial cell manufacturing conditions, as tested with a global EV manufacturer, Talga can now accelerate its commercial production plans.

Talga stated that the recent qualification and pilot trials under commercial cell manufacturing conditions resulted in a boost to the battery energy capacity by around 40%.

And at this stage of development, test results of first-cycle efficiency and 500-cycle life have exceeded customer targets to date.

With these glowing results under its belt, Talga has now decided to expand its existing pilot line in Rudolstadt, Germany. The company will aim to produce greater quantities of Talnode-Si for commercial qualification.

Commissioning of the expanded pilot line is to be completed in Q1 2023, selecting an ideal location is underway, and the company will also begin feasibility works towards accelerating its commercial production options.

Talga’s Managing Director, Mark Thompson, commented:


Europe preps for net zero and Talga is well positioned

Last year, EV sales went up 65% in Europe.

The EU has set a 2035 target to phase out its carbon-heavy combustion engine, making way for a rapid growth trajectory.

Talga notes there has been a huge rise in market interest in scaling production for silicon anodes outside China, which has been flagged by global equipment manufacturers and battery makers.

Benchmark Mineral Intelligence forecasts the 2030 anode market share for silicon anode to be 5% or around 150,000 tonnes a year.

Talga expects to soon finalise its negotiations with European battery maker Automotive Cells Company (ACC), hoping to form a legally binding agreement regarding the supply of graphite anode from Talga’s Vittangi Anode Project in Sweden.

Talga is already in talks with other leading global EV manufacturers to secure agreements on supply volumes, which will be crucial in the next phase of the anode producer’s development.

Resources boom — an insider’s attack plan

The next big mining boom is predicted to happen in the next few years.

Similar patterns that occurred 20 years ago are happening again.

Rich and powerful execs were reaping big gains last time.

But this time, you can get insider intel from an on-the-ground veteran geologist, our commodities expert, James Cooper.

James is ‘convinced the gears are in motion for another multi-year boom’, and Australia is in line to benefit.

You can access James’s plan of attack, get his unique and exclusive insight into the industry, and watch back the informative Q&A session by viewing his recent appearance at Ausbiz.

This event will only be live for a few days — gain access here!

Regards,

Mahlia Stewart,
For Money Morning"

https://www.moneymorning.com.au/202...expansion-after-hitting-customer-targets.html

Finally, what we have been waiting for for so long is happening. Not only is more and more being written and talked about graphite for EVs, but also directly about us. Now I am waiting for my own country to wake up and publish the first article in German in a big magazine. Next week is another full working week. Maybe we'll hear something about ACC, otherwise I don't really expect it between Christmas and New Year's Eve, would be very uncommon.
Back in 2015, talga filed a patent for extracting graphene from its ore

WO2016205862A1 MINING METHOD AND USE OF MINED MATERIAL IN PRODUCTION OF GRAPHENE AND GRAPHITIC MATERIAL

A mining method (10) by which graphitic ore is produced in a form that constitutes an appropriate feedstock for an electrolytic process (20) for the production of graphitic materials through exfoliation. The graphitic ore feedstock may be utilised directly as an electrode in the electrolytic process (20). Also disclosed is a graphitic feedstock for an electrolytic process for the production of graphitic material through exfoliation of that feedstock, wherein the feedstock is less than about 99% graphite (w/w) and of a sufficiently cohesive and conductive nature as to allow electrochemical exfoliation therethroughout without fracturing that might result in collapse of a significant portion of the feedstock or that may result in a loss of conductivity throughout a significant portion of the feedstock.

Then Talga adopted a conventional process for producing graphite for Talnode-C. Apparently there is some graphene produced as a by-product.

Now Talga has found a new market for graphene in Talnode-Si.

I wonder if we will use the patented invention for producing graphene to meet the increased demand for graphene for Talnode-Si?
 
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At about 14 minutes "We can make graphene from recycled graphite."

Let's see the patent for that!
 
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At about 14 minutes "We can make graphene from recycled graphite."

Let's see the patent for that!
Wasn't that the process where they cut the cathodes out of the graphite blocks and used them directly with electricity to produce graphene?
Maybe we don't even need this patent any more, since the rock is processed in crushed form anyway.
But the recycled material could be baked into this very cathode mould, so they could use the patent again here. But you are the master of patents.
You're right, an intriguing question and good distraction while waiting.
 
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Why a speedy ramp up to production (yes, I skip a few steps) has priority.

 
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