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Draed

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I was reading an article about one of the problems AI is facing (sorry, I dont have the link). It was about how most of the data available on the internet has been reviewed and classified and incorporated into models already. The challenge moving forward is generating and capturing new data to continuously improve these models.

My question to the group is. Could we foresee our akida products being used in combination with other more sophisitcated but power hungry chips or software.

For example with mercades. Our chip or software at the edge and at the sensor. Quick, and power efficient inference done in realtime on input like voice activation, learning someones accent, vocal manerisms etc. But then that more refined data is processed in larger and more power hungry systems in the car or cloud for model improvements.

I see pico being such a device. Not intended to run independently. But more of a extreme edge device at the sensor, that just does data collection and refinement, but doesn't make any decisions on anything...

I might be way off. But that's my impression.

Cheers

Draed
 
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As in politics, religion, society and all human constructs, corruption is inherent in the system.
Doesn't mean that its either all bad or that it cannot be improved, but big change is unlikely in my view.
The system is well protected by those, behind those, whose hands are on the levers, who gain directly the most, from the current settings.
Bit like the state of our cockeyed housing market.
Any government trying to initiate any meaningful change will be crucified at the polls by the majority of voters who want their primary asset to keep appreciating as opposed to the minority currently struggling for a foothold in the market.
The mistake was designating housing not as necessary and required shelter but as wealth enhancement, and then designing and entrenching systems which perverted the tax function towards that end.
The big player will never see a curt from the inside! If one Projekt fails, they start a new one. Building up a system with new little fishes. In our eyes maybe big player but for the real bosses just marionettes… just imagine what we are in their eyes…
 
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TSMC says 'insane' AI demand is 'real' and a boon for chip giant

TAIPEI -- Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. on Thursday said "extremely robust" AI demand is set to continue for years and deliver another record-breaking quarter for the world's largest contract chipmaker.

TSMC said net profit in the July-September quarter surged 54.2% on the year to 325.26 billion New Taiwan dollars ($10 billion). Revenue, meanwhile, reached a record NT$759.69 billion, up 39%.
I was reading an article about one of the problems AI is facing (sorry, I dont have the link). It was about how most of the data available on the internet has been reviewed and classified and incorporated into models already. The challenge moving forward is generating and capturing new data to continuously improve these models.

My question to the group is. Could we foresee our akida products being used in combination with other more sophisitcated but power hungry chips or software.

For example with mercades. Our chip or software at the edge and at the sensor. Quick, and power efficient inference done in realtime on input like voice activation, learning someones accent, vocal manerisms etc. But then that more refined data is processed in larger and more power hungry systems in the car or cloud for model improvements.

I see pico being such a device. Not intended to run independently. But more of a extreme edge device at the sensor, that just does data collection and refinement, but doesn't make any decisions on anything...

I might be way off. But that's my impression.

Cheers

Draed
Hi Draed,

ChatGPT is not the Be-all-and-end-all. There are many other applications for AI models which do not need the omniscient entity in the cloud. Of course, Akida could reduce the power consumption and latency, but ... one step at a time .. We are hardly in a position to take on Nvidia head on just yet.

ADAS does not require such a massive universal knowledge base. Its image model is built on collections of vehicle mounted videos. I imagine there will be different models for left hand drive and right hand drive which can be downloaded using RAG* (Retrieval-Augmented Generation) as required.

Our association with Edge Impulse is aimed at automating the labelling of such data for the models, leveraging off pre-existing labelled models.

As for "Hey Mercedes", certainly PICO can be used for key word spotting to wake a larger processor, which could be a full strength Akida 2 with TENNS for natural language processing, Akida 2 being the preeminent NN processor. Akida 1 relieved the von Neumann CNN processor from the heavy lifting of inference/classification. TENNS now alleviates the task of temporal analysis of the classified input signals, leaving von Neumann to get on with whatever it does best (whatever that is).

* AI RAG - Where's Scott Joplin when you need him?

https://au.video.search.yahoo.com/s...326b7fc181a9cf1563532754ec1c904e&action=click
 
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No one can deny that Sean hasn't assembled a solid team of (veterans) around him..if you look at our home webpage, as I did the other day, you will notice a well balanced team of experienced professionals..so we have the team, we have the brilliance of mind in the newly formed, refreshed team on the SAB...so, either product design has or is close to being finalized or we are still treading water with clients who just keep looking for reasons not to commit...in my opinion, the pressure must be mounting from within our company from the Board down to the engineering teams, the sales team, surely they must be feeling a level of frustration as we all are..Sean comes across to me as the type of person who likes his "i's" dotted and his "t's" crossed, very deliberate in his decision making, I haven't lost faith in his ability to deliver, but at the same time I am well aware that the spring is pretty tightly wound, so something has to give, one way or the other...as we all know the 4C is due in round 8 business days and I'm STILL not expecting any change...not being negative at all...just calling it as I currently see it...if I was the CEO I'd be feeling it right about now..and I don't believe Sean has put a foot wrong, it's a tough gig as Lou discovered...we have absolutely no control over what individual companies decide, the biggest part of that equation is time, as frustrating as that is.

End of my rambling.

Over and out...Tech.
 
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FF Posted an interesting link on the crapfest worth a read!
MegaChips still in play...
 
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FF Posted an interesting link on the crapfest worth a read!
MegaChips still in play...

These are the parts where Akida is mentioned:


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Frangipani

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Another of our Laguna Hills engineers leaving without having another job lined up… 🤔

It should be noted that he has since been given glowing references from his former BrainChip colleagues.

Nevertheless, he seems to have been unhappy in his job for quite a while (see his 4 month old LinkedIn comment)… What is going on? 🤔

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There it is again, a new combination Akido Pico
Sounds kind of Japanese

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In your posts I usually read over typos and don't notice them. But with Akida?
It's like Intel's at that time Pentium - Pentia, Pentio, Pentiam, Pentiom - hum hum.
Always a close call.

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Seriously, this needs to be hammered or ram into the heads of all BRN writers.
How else is someone supposed to create a brand or product?
Kuci
Bolex
Nercedes Denz - yeah
Gola
A-pod
Verrari
A-pat
Akido
Dolls-Boyce
Mc Bonald's
And so on

Yo, Akido Bollisto (y)

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At the beginning I thought more funny, mistakes are human.
What would their company say if something was posted globally and said:
Dugatti
or
Bugatto

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It's about building a brand. Painchip?!

I don't know why I'm so upset if the own employees do not take their texting seriously. Just letters.
 
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Frangipani

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FF Posted an interesting link on the crapfest worth a read!
MegaChips still in play...

These are the parts where Akida is mentioned:


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Yawn… 🥱
We’ve known about this for almost two months:

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Even FF himself had posted about this paper before 👇🏻 - he loves to rehash old news/academic papers/podcasts/videos and hardly ever posts anything novel these days that hasn’t already been posted here on TSE.

That’s why @Fullmoonfever recently made this comment:

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Yawn… 🥱
We’ve known about this for almost two months:

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Even FF himself had posted about this paper before 👇🏻 - he loves to rehash old news/academic papers/podcasts/videos and hardly ever posts anything novel these days that hasn’t already been posted here on TSE.

That’s why @Fullmoonfever recently made this comment:

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Good posts @overpup And @CHIPS . Always good to have info even if reposted as some may have missed it. 👍
 
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Another of our Laguna Hills engineers leaving without having another job lined up… 🤔

It should be noted that he has since been given glowing references from his former BrainChip colleagues.

Nevertheless, he seems to have been unhappy in his job for quite a while (see his 4 month old LinkedIn comment)… What is going on? 🤔

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Hi @Frangipani I think it should be noted in my view as how many Employees who. has been instrumental in Brainchip's success has left within short span of time. People may say for better pay but i for one differ in this view, one need to be happy where they are working, We often say Employee dont leave the company they leave their managers right?
 
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TSMC says 'insane' AI demand is 'real' and a boon for chip giant

TAIPEI -- Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. on Thursday said "extremely robust" AI demand is set to continue for years and deliver another record-breaking quarter for the world's largest contract chipmaker.

TSMC said net profit in the July-September quarter surged 54.2% on the year to 325.26 billion New Taiwan dollars ($10 billion). Revenue, meanwhile, reached a record NT$759.69 billion, up 39%.

Hi Draed,

ChatGPT is not the Be-all-and-end-all. There are many other applications for AI models which do not need the omniscient entity in the cloud. Of course, Akida could reduce the power consumption and latency, but ... one step at a time .. We are hardly in a position to take on Nvidia head on just yet.

ADAS does not require such a massive universal knowledge base. Its image model is built on collections of vehicle mounted videos. I imagine there will be different models for left hand drive and right hand drive which can be downloaded using RAG* (Retrieval-Augmented Generation) as required.

Our association with Edge Impulse is aimed at automating the labelling of such data for the models, leveraging off pre-existing labelled models.

As for "Hey Mercedes", certainly PICO can be used for key word spotting to wake a larger processor, which could be a full strength Akida 2 with TENNS for natural language processing, Akida 2 being the preeminent NN processor. Akida 1 relieved the von Neumann CNN processor from the heavy lifting of inference/classification. TENNS now alleviates the task of temporal analysis of the classified input signals, leaving von Neumann to get on with whatever it does best (whatever that is).

* AI RAG - Where's Scott Joplin when you need him?

https://au.video.search.yahoo.com/s...326b7fc181a9cf1563532754ec1c904e&action=click
Thanks for your response. It just had me thinking all day. But I appreciate your response. Cheers
 
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I was reading an article about one of the problems AI is facing (sorry, I dont have the link). It was about how most of the data available on the internet has been reviewed and classified and incorporated into models already. The challenge moving forward is generating and capturing new data to continuously improve these models.

My question to the group is. Could we foresee our akida products being used in combination with other more sophisitcated but power hungry chips or software.

For example with mercades. Our chip or software at the edge and at the sensor. Quick, and power efficient inference done in realtime on input like voice activation, learning someones accent, vocal manerisms etc. But then that more refined data is processed in larger and more power hungry systems in the car or cloud for model improvements.

I see pico being such a device. Not intended to run independently. But more of a extreme edge device at the sensor, that just does data collection and refinement, but doesn't make any decisions on anything...

I might be way off. But that's my impression.

Cheers

Draed

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Draed

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Yes, this is possible. See images below...
Hi Bs. Thank you.... that's what I was imagining in my head. And that's what I see picos role in all this. Just straight up at the edge classification, low watt power.

For ongoing classification in vehicles it would be ideal to have an akida at the sensor, just sending pertinent information up the chain. I think pico is a direct response of demand from our clients.

Cheers
 
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Maybe, just maybe, we’ll find out a teeny-weeny bit more about the current status of MB’s neuromorphic research later this week:

I checked out the website of Hochschule Karlsruhe (Karlsruhe University of Applied Sciences aka HKA) - since Markus Schäfer mentioned in his post they were collaborating with them on event-based cameras - and discovered an intriguing hybrid presentation by Dominik Blum, one of MB’s neuromorphic researchers, titled “Intelligente Fahrassistenzsysteme der Zukunft: KI, Sensorik und Neuromorphes Computing” (“Future Intelligent ADAS: AI, Sensor Technology and Neuromorphic Computing”).

The upcoming presentation is part of this week’s Themenwoche Künstliche Intelligenz, a week (Mon-Thu to be precise) devoted to AI, with numerous, mostly hybrid presentations from various HKA research areas (both faculty and external speakers will present), held daily between 5.15 pm and 8.30 pm.

Oct 17 is devoted to the topic of AI & Traffic:


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If you speak German (or even if you don’t, but are nevertheless interested in the presentation slides) and live in a compatible time zone, you may want to join the following livestream on Oct 17, at 5.15 pm (CEST):







(Since similar June AI Day presentations were recorded and uploaded to the HKA website, I assume this will also apply to the AI Week presentations.)

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The reference to NMC (neuromorphic computing) being considered a “möglicher Lösungsweg” (possible/potential solution) suggests to me - once again - that Mercedes-Benz is nowhere near to implementing neuromorphic technology at scale into serial cars.


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Here’s the link to the livestream’s recording (in German):





The presentation by Dominik Blum (Mercedes-Benz) starts at 3:48 min.

There was one slide that showed - amongst other things - various brands of neuromorphic hardware (ABR, BrainChip, Innatera, Intel, SynSense), including Akida 1.0 and 2.0, but none was mentioned by name. Same with the slide showing the EQXX: there was merely mention of the voice assistant’s keyword spotting having been realised on “a neuromorphic chip”, which was said to have considerably improved this function’s energy efficiency.

Please note that the slide showing neuromorphic hardware also lists the ABR Time Series Processor (TSP1), developed by Applied Brain Research, the Canadian company Chris Eliasmith co-founded and is CTO of (see the link to my previous post below).
I reckon TSP1 is what MB are going to base their future research on regarding their recently announced collaboration with the University of Waterloo.
So just as I said the other day, that announcement is highly likely no reason to celebrate for BRN shareholders:

https://thestockexchange.com.au/threads/brn-discussion-ongoing.1/post-438892


In the Q&A session afterwards, Dominik Blum was asked whether the architecture of neuromorphic chips resembled that of GPUs or whether it was a completely different design. His answer was: “Da wir uns mehr auf die softwareseitige Entwicklung von “neuromorphic” fokussieren, kann ich da keine gute Antwort geben.” (“Since we are focussing more on the software side development of neuromorphic, I can’t give you a good answer to that question.”)

He was also asked whether he could quantify the potential energy savings of neuromorphic computing and said that there were vague estimations of up to 90%, however, he’d be careful with any concrete numbers (suggesting 90% might actually be too high) and stressed that they are still at a very early stage of research and that further studies were required.

When asked how long it would take for fully autonomous cars to become reality, he replied he would prefer to answer as “a private person” (= not as an MB employee) and then said he believed it would be within the next 15 years, but there were various uncertainties to factor in. He wriggled for an answer when asked whether any legal framework could pose a problem regarding that time frame.

To me the gist was that while MB considers neuromorphic computing a very promising technology regarding gains in energy efficiency (which will become more and more important on the path towards cars becoming fully autonomous), they are still at a very early stage of research - Dominik Blum literally said so. There you go, you heard it from the horse’s mouth. So don’t expect neuromorphic technology in any MB serial production cars in the near future. At least that’s what I took away from that presentation.

Anything major I missed?


Here are some of the presentation slides:

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Energy consumption increases with the vehicle’s number of AI-based systems:

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The higher the SAE-Level, the higher the energy consumption:

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Neuromorphic computing is a young field of research … with a lot of open questions, e.g.:

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SNNs in the event chain of autonomous driving:

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This slide kind of looked familiar… 😉

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Dominik Blum said that they are still in the research phase as to event-based cameras that will one day complement regular cameras, radar and LiDAR…

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Hi @Frangipani I think it should be noted in my view as how many Employees who. has been instrumental in Brainchip's success has left within short span of time. People may say for better pay but i for one differ in this view, one need to be happy where they are working, We often say Employee dont leave the company they leave their managers right?

My thoughts exactly…
 
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