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[Fact Finder]

I believe Akida is still at the “far-edge”, to use a term coined by Rob Telson (I believe). Where the actual inputs are processed to differenciate the important stuff from the noise. And where micro- and milli-watts are consumed

The term “edge” has unfortunately seemed to shift a fair way away from the far-edge. It now encompasses not only the entire smart sensor but actuators to respond to sensor, mechanisms to perform an activity, and mechanisms to provide feedback up the chain - ultimately to a human operator . i.e. the entire system. Power consumption will still be important, but I dare say it might be slipping up into partial watts.

Maybe this edge is more the point from which the human operator no longer needs to care about what goes on under the bonnet. This definition of an edge could be applied to physical objects such as cameras, car dash boards and the like.

The SiFive—BrainChip partnership seems to be creating something that will satisfy this edge, and that’s Ok by me because that is an easy edge to market and for the world to relate to. The world loves a system that does something tangeable. I think the general consumer market struggles to recognise the advantages of a spiking neural network. So let’s stop confusing them.

A Polish colleague of mine, who learnt English as a second language and hence was VERY specific with grammar, would have said this edge is not “the edge” but rather is just “an edge”. There are many interfaces that can be called “an edge” and even “another edge” but there is only one that can be called “the edge”.

“The edge” is, in all reality, the “far-edge”! The point where the stimuli and initial responses exist!

Just to be clear Brainchip in 2018 switched direction to target the far edge as a sales and marketing tactic not because it was the only place where Peter van der Made’s technology would work from a technical, scientific or engineering perspective.

The far edge was empty with no incumbency to work against AKIDA gaining access.

Peter van der Made has always claimed his artificial neural networks would dominate from the cloud to the far edge.

Indeed when you listen to Rob Lincourt of DELL Technologies it seems DELL had already worked out it had greater potential than just A plethora of edge products.

When you read the Forbes article concerning SiFive and its ambition to compete directly with ARM it too has a similar ambition to that of Peter van der Made.

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

 

[ndefries]

Just to be clear Brainchip in 2018 switched direction to target the far edge as a sales and marketing tactic not because it was the only place where Peter van der Made’s technology would work from a technical, scientific or engineering perspective.

The far edge was empty with no incumbency to work against AKIDA gaining access.

Peter van der Made has always claimed his artificial neural networks would dominate from the cloud to the far edge.

Indeed when you listen to Rob Lincourt of DELL Technologies it seems DELL had already worked out it had greater potential than just A plethora of edge products.

When you read the Forbes article concerning SiFive and its ambition to compete directly with ARM it too has a similar ambition to that of Peter van der Made.

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

At this stage if it came out that FF was the first Akida AI powered bot i wouldn't challenge that.

 

[Fact Finder]

There is an SBIR for a sensor that Rocket has found and posted the link to over on the NASA thread.

The SBIR is for a smart sensor using ultra low power and all seems to line up for a sensor maker to grab hold of AKIDA as the perfect solution.

Leaving that to one side what garnered my attention was the following paragraph which to me validates completely how proven over at NASA SNN technology solutions have become.

“PHASE III DUAL USE APPLICATIONS: Phase III efforts will demonstrate a fully packaged camera with a neuromorphic processing chip. Spiking neural network device technology is preferable. Efforts will leverage emerging event-based sensing algorithms to demonstrate.”

The phrases used over time are becoming real:

tipping point

tip of the iceberg

exciting times

plethora of use cases

5 to 10 times more efficient

ubiquitous

explosive sales

saturate the market

income will ramp up

not if but when

we have well North of 100 NDA’s

we are being selective

will give us the best commercial opportunity

NASA is very excited

Brainchip artificial intelligence experts

that’s your margin of victory

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

 

[buena suerte :-)]

WOW .... it gave me butterflies watching that ... great 'ad' and to think we are all 'part' of this awesome AI revolution... 'POWERED BY AKIDA ' nothing else will do! .............. looking forward to watching a heap of golf and seeing that 'ad' many times over ..... GO BRN

 

[Getupthere]

Mazda CX-60 uses facial recognition to automate driver's seat position

Fancy new technology in the Mazda CX-60 SUV can recognise up to six different drivers' faces and automate seating position and comfort settings.

www.pocket-lint.com

 

[Slymeat]

Just to be clear Brainchip in 2018 switched direction to target the far edge as a sales and marketing tactic not because it was the only place where Peter van der Made’s technology would work from a technical, scientific or engineering perspective.

The far edge was empty with no incumbency to work against AKIDA gaining access.

Peter van der Made has always claimed his artificial neural networks would dominate from the cloud to the far edge.

Indeed when you listen to Rob Lincourt of DELL Technologies it seems DELL had already worked out it had greater potential than just A plethora of edge products.

When you read the Forbes article concerning SiFive and its ambition to compete directly with ARM it too has a similar ambition to that of Peter van der Made.

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

Thanks @Fact Finder, it may have been Peter from whom I heard the term.

I don‘t think we are talking about different things here. I agree with what you say above.

I was merely trying to address @Diogenese postulation of what edge was being discussed. And to that end I felt that many edges are involved and attempted to point out that there really is no “the edge”.

I still like using his term, “far-edge”, even if Peter only meant it as a marketing tool and a notion to place Akida with no competition. I also believe it should be generally adopted to mean exactly that.

The far-edge is a nice notion when discussing smart sensors. Engineers, developers, designers, technicians, and the like, can relate to the far-edge.

The edge is a notion that best fits an interface, be that at the far-edge or to the cloud or anywhere in between, it is a point at which you cross over from things you are immediately concerned about (results) to things you aren‘t concerned about (the way the results have been arrived at). Consumers can easily relate to that, it is the edge to a system, to a something giving meaning to something else. That even fits the dictionary definition of edge being the outside limit of something.

Systems deal with what’s inside the edge. Humans deal with systems via interfacing through the outside of the edge.

 

[Fact Finder]

Thanks @Fact Finder, it may have been Peter from whom I heard the term.

I don‘t think we are talking about different things here. I agree with what you say above.

I was merely trying to address @Diogenese postulation of what edge was being discussed. And to that end I felt that many edges are involved and attempted to point out that there really is no “the edge”.

I still like using his term, “far-edge”, even if Peter only meant it as a marketing tool and a notion to place Akida with no competition. I also believe it should be generally adopted to mean exactly that.

The far-edge is a nice notion when discussing smart sensors. Engineers, developers, designers, technicians, and the like, can relate to the far-edge.

The edge is a notion that best fits an interface, be that at the far-edge or to the cloud or anywhere in between, it is a point at which you cross over from things you are immediately concerned about (results) to things you aren‘t concerned about (the way the results have been arrived at). Consumers can easily relate to that, it is the edge to a system, to a something giving meaning to something else. That even fits the dictionary definition of edge being the outside limit of something.

Systems deal with what’s inside the edge. Humans deal with systems via interfacing through the outside of the edge.

I thought that was your intent but we had that lunatic over at the cess pit who lied and attacked anyone who suggest Peter’s technology had any use outside a low powered edge device and I am certain he/she/it would have influenced some.

I love the term Far Edge. I also like the DELL use of the term End Point for everything else.

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

 

[Fact Finder]

WOW .... it gave me butterflies watching that ... great 'ad' and to think we are all 'part' of this awesome AI revolution... 'POWERED BY AKIDA ' nothing else will do! .............. looking forward to watching a heap of golf and seeing that 'ad' many times over ..... GO BRN

Yes I was so excited I even sent it to my wife. LOL

However I will let you into a secret I even sent it to someone in the company and received this reply:

“Wow, that’s pretty great!! Thanks for sending ……!! I don’t think I’ve seen that version yet”

So there are multiple versions for the 1,000 Eyes to watch out for how cool is that and how committed is Mercedes to EQXX and you know who????

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

 

[buena suerte :-)]

Yes I was so excited I even sent it to my wife. LOL

However I will let you into a secret I even sent it to someone in the company and received this reply:

“Wow, that’s pretty great!! Thanks for sending ……!! I don’t think I’ve seen that version yet”

So there are multiple versions for the 1,000 Eyes to watch out for how cool is that and how committed is Mercedes to EQXX and you know who????

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

My question is.... when can we buy one in OZ?? and at what price??

 

[Okeydokey01]

My question is.... when can we buy one in OZ?? and at what price??

My question is, will price even be an issue for Brainchip holders once the EQXX is released...

 

[buena suerte :-)]

My question is, will price even be an issue for Brainchip holders once the EQXX is released...

Exactly .... I would be serious about buying one!

 

[Violin1]

Yes I was so excited I even sent it to my wife. LOL

However I will let you into a secret I even sent it to someone in the company and received this reply:

“Wow, that’s pretty great!! Thanks for sending ……!! I don’t think I’ve seen that version yet”

So there are multiple versions for the 1,000 Eyes to watch out for how cool is that and how committed is Mercedes to EQXX and you know who????

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

Voldemort?

 

[Okeydokey01]

Exactly .... I would be serious about buying one!

It feels like we should be able to show our card at the door as proof that we are paid up Brainchip carrying members. Then to be met by the dealer principle with a secret handshake and escorted to the private executive suite within the dealership and offered the employee only vehicle catalogue and prices!

 

[buena suerte :-)]

Exactly .... I would be serious about buying one!

by
Darren Moss
4 Jan 2022 08:30
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In concept form, the EQXX is a luxurious four-door coupé with a swept-back, low-slung appearance, with a tapered rear end and large air intakes in the corners of its front bumper – all designed to help it slip through the air easily.

The numbers back up the EQXX’s 22nd-century styling, because it will have the longest range of any electric car. The current record holder, the Mercedes EQS luxury limo, can officially manage up to 484 miles in 450+ form. The EQXX, in comparison, promises up to 620 miles between charges – enough to drive the car from Mercedes’ HQ in Stuttgart back to London without stopping for a top-up.

So around $200,000 !!!? hmmmn

 

[flight11]

I agree that is quite un-acceptable, for the cost it should of been packaged to survive an explosion.

 

[alwaysgreen]

There is an SBIR for a sensor that Rocket has found and posted the link to over on the NASA thread.

The SBIR is for a smart sensor using ultra low power and all seems to line up for a sensor maker to grab hold of AKIDA as the perfect solution.

Leaving that to one side what garnered my attention was the following paragraph which to me validates completely how proven over at NASA SNN technology solutions have become.

“PHASE III DUAL USE APPLICATIONS: Phase III efforts will demonstrate a fully packaged camera with a neuromorphic processing chip. Spiking neural network device technology is preferable. Efforts will leverage emerging event-based sensing algorithms to demonstrate.”

The phrases used over time are becoming real:

tipping point

tip of the iceberg

exciting times

plethora of use cases

5 to 10 times more efficient

ubiquitous

explosive sales

saturate the market

income will ramp up

not if but when

we have well North of 100 NDA’s

we are being selective

will give us the best commercial opportunity

NASA is very excited

Brainchip artificial intelligence experts

that’s your margin of victory

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

Just like Akida, I am also hardened now!

 

[Slade]

This new Mercedes advertisement is quite remarkable. The fact that they have highlighted Akida technology.
“Neuromorphic computing five times more intelligent than current voice AI”
It reminded me of the nob that said “What’s a neuromorphic chip anyway”. Looks like the term neuromorphic just went mainstream.
Mercedes have put up an add during the Masters focusing on three features of their new Mercedes. One of the features is a direct reference to Akida and the other (miles achieved on a single charge) relates to their use of Akida. Extraordinary!!!! Bloody amazing.

 

[jwoody2000]

Is Intel Really Willing to Pay $2B+ for RISC-V Startup SiFive?

We look into why Intel might be offering to pay more than $2 billion to purchase a top RISC-V company, SiFive, and what that might eventually mean.

www.datacenterknowledge.com

this was dated some time ago, and most probably well discussed nearing a year ago, but its very interesting play, what happens to our partnership if there is a take over?
could it be an attempt by intel to then squeeze out BRN, and rather use it 12,000 employees to find a better way?
is it an attempt to not use the clould,

"These days the architecture is seeing increasing use as accelerators and controllers, but has yet to break into the CPU market in any meaningful way. Alibaba, however, has developed RISC-V CPUs that it's using extensively in its cloud data centers, and the Institute of Software at the Chinese Academy of Sciences plans to build 2,000 RISC-V-powered laptops by the end of next year as part of the Chinese government's efforts to break the country's reliance on foreign technology."

 

[wilzy123]

This new Mercedes advertisement is quite remarkable. The fact that they have highlighted Akida technology.
“Neuromorphic computing five times more intelligent than current voice AI”
It reminded me of the nob that said “What’s a neuromorphic chip anyway”. Looks like the term neuromorphic just went mainstream.
Mercedes have put up an add during the Masters focusing on three features of their new Mercedes. One of the features is a direct reference to Akida and the other (miles achieved on a single charge) relates to their use of Akida. Extraordinary!!!! Bloody amazing.

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

 

[Deleted member 118]

There is an SBIR for a sensor that Rocket has found and posted the link to over on the NASA thread.

The SBIR is for a smart sensor using ultra low power and all seems to line up for a sensor maker to grab hold of AKIDA as the perfect solution.

Leaving that to one side what garnered my attention was the following paragraph which to me validates completely how proven over at NASA SNN technology solutions have become.

“PHASE III DUAL USE APPLICATIONS: Phase III efforts will demonstrate a fully packaged camera with a neuromorphic processing chip. Spiking neural network device technology is preferable. Efforts will leverage emerging event-based sensing algorithms to demonstrate.”

The phrases used over time are becoming real:

tipping point

tip of the iceberg

exciting times

plethora of use cases

5 to 10 times more efficient

ubiquitous

explosive sales

saturate the market

income will ramp up

not if but when

we have well North of 100 NDA’s

we are being selective

will give us the best commercial opportunity

NASA is very excited

Brainchip artificial intelligence experts

that’s your margin of victory

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA