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Tels61

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Hi Hopalong, That was a very sound, intelligent, "mature" response, and demonstrates the quality and format that this forum should consist of instead of this mindless bickering and childish responses, when somebody feels personally aggrieved because somebody else dared to have an alternative view/opinion. Please lets try and conduct ourselves as adults.
 
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“We have often said that we ourselves will only see how it is financially going based on the numbers. This can take up to three years!”

That’s right it can take up to 3 years.

the problem is that you need to start with IP license first.

If you don’t like his opinion then skip over his post and worry about your own opinion.
If someone post something in a forum, and say he want to open a discussion to all, I have the right to respond with my point of view. I didn’t talk to you so, if you don’t like my response, just skip over my post and worry about your own opinion 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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Bravo

If ARM was an arm, BRN would be its biceps💪!

Intel and Arm Reach Agreement on Startup Initiative Supporting AI Growth​



By
AARON MCDADE

Published March 22, 2024
Intel

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KEY TAKEAWAYS​

  • Intel and Arm announced an agreement Friday to collaborate on an initiative providing financial, manufacturing, and intellectual property support to startups.
  • The companies suggested the move could help propel AI innovation.
  • As competition in the AI space heats up, Arm, Intel, and other key players such as Nvidia have invested significantly in startups.
Intel (INTC) and chip designer Arm (ARM) said Friday the companies finalized an agreement to collaborate on an initiative providing financial, intellectual property (IP), and manufacturing support to startups.

The collaboration, called the Emerging Business Initiative, was first announced at last month's Intel Foundry conference and builds on a partnership established last April, in a move the companies suggested could help propel innovation in artificial intelligence (AI).1

"Startups play a crucial role in bringing the great promise of transformations like AI to reality. The Emerging Business Initiative provides a path for new companies to leverage leading-edge Arm-based SoCs and Intel Foundry’s global manufacturing capabilities to make their ideas real,” Intel Senior Vice President and General Manager of Foundry Services Stuart Pann said in a release.

Arm and Intel have both benefitted from booming demand for AI, and as competition in the space heats up, they along with other key players such as Nvidia (NVDA) have invested significantly in startups as part of their efforts to strengthen their positions as new technology develops rapidly.2

Intel shares finished 0.4% higher at $42.57 Friday, while Arm shares gained 0.4% to $134.15. Shares of Intel have surged about 46% over the last 12 months, and Arm shares have more than doubled in value since the company went public in September.

 
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Here’s a discussion for you, what is the general consensus of a brilliant next Financial report…. Is to be or not to be.
That is the question
Come this quarter or next , it most definitely should be alive with positive results imo.
 
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Diogenese

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The question is more about the purpose of your initiated discussion. What benefit should this have? Are you trying to influence someone to have the same view as you? And if so, why? What is the purpose of this discussion? Why should we provide you with any facts about sold licenses or "products"? We have often said that we ourselves will only see how it is financially going based on the numbers. This can take up to three years! Do you have patience or not is the question ... Why do you turn to the users here? You are obviously dissatisfied, but that seems to be your personal problem. I am not interested in the problems of anonymous people. Just my opinion. Your long postings show me some hysterical touch to be honest
Yes. Let's not forget that, while the world and his wife are familiar with the use of OpenAi's GPT "X", they do not have a clue as to how it works, let alone the underlying technology. However, we are seeing frequent examples of the tech world's increasing awareness.

One field of tech where Akida's potential is as yet untapped is in the implementation of LLMs.

Sensors (microphones, cameras, ...) and keyboards are essential input devices, and the input signals need to be converted to a format which the system can interpret. This requires the system management processor to be able to interpret natural language. Doing that purely in software burns a lot of electricity. Akida 2 introduces long range skip connexions:

https://brainchip.com/akida-generations/

With the added support for short and long-range skip connections, an akidaTM neural processor can now accelerate complex neural networks such as ResNet completely in hardware without model computations on a host CPU.
Skip connections are implemented by storing data from previous layers in the akidaTM mesh or in a scratchpad memory for combination with data in later layers.

Key Benefits:


  • Complex Network Acceleration: Enables complete hardware execution of non feed-forward model architectures such as ResNet and DenseNet.
  • Low Latency: Eliminates CPU interaction during network evaluation which minimizes model latency.
By performing these functions in silicon, Akida reduces both power usage and latency compared with earlier LSTM/Attention software implementations.

Akida 2 provides a much more efficient foundation for implementing LLMs and particularly SLMs (Small Language Models adapted for edge applications). However, for the moment, the cloud-based Chat GPT and its LLMs have the advantage of incumbency despite their unsustainable growth in energy consumption. Nvidia's Jensen Huang is rightfully proud of the 2.5 times improvement in power consumption of Blackwell, but that is not sufficient to mitigate the exponential growth in power consumption to contain it within acceptable limits.

Akida offers orders of magnitude greater improvement, particularly with the use of SLMs at the edge. Akida has the potential to be the foundation stone of all things GPT. The development of SLMs is just some of the lead in Akida's saddlebags.

While Edge GPT is the present Holy Grail, there is a myriad of other applications for Akida which can be implemented in the near term.

ADAS - DMS - UI - lidar/..., space, SDR, Edge Box, ...

For startup companies, the rational basis for assessing share price is the market potential of the product.

The problem is that the share price is the plaything of manipulators who take advantage of the fact that many shareholders and potential shareholders do not fully grasp the potential of this revolutionary technology, and the fact that the pre-income phase has been longer than anyone anticipated. One reason for the delay in revenue is that the technology is evolving at an unprecedented rate, LSTM, Attention, 4-bit weights and actuations, Chat GPT, TeNNs, ViT, ... Remember, Akida 2 is just 1 year old.

Added to that is the fact that the company has made a few mis-steps or changed course over the last few years in an attempt to come to grips with an entirely unheralded market. The company was metaphorically feeling its way in the dark and needed to test the waters to see which way the current flows ... and the current has not flowed smoothly.

So there are a lot of factors to be taken into account which no one could have foreseen a few years ago. This has been a learning experience for the shareholders and the company.
 
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Here a discussion for you, what is the general consensus of a brilliant next Financial report…. Is to be or not to be.
That is the question
Come this quarter or next , it most definitely should be alive with positive results imo.
What exactly are you expecting from the next financial report that would make it brilliant?
 
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What exactly are you expecting from the next financial report that would make it brilliant?
I would like to hear of a solid engagement that can be revealed if possible or some kind of brilliant news from our CEO that enlightens us to the progress of one of our existing NDAs
 
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I would like to hear of a solid engagement that can be revealed if possible or some kind of brilliant news from our CEO that enlightens us to the progress of one of our existing NDAs
Fair enough. I think we might get that.
 
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Yes I think it’s really close now to the presents being opened
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I think people need to take a step back and stop the bias thinking and bashing of people who post concerns. If the concerns are real, not just down ramping for the sake of it, then they should be aired and considered. For those that have run a business and been in sales and marketing I ask you this. Do you believe that after the AKIDA 1.0, 1.5, and 2.0 have been released that the sales people have hit their targets this year? Do you believe that Sean has hit his selling targets (if indeed he has them as CEO.) Do you believe that the company in 2022 reached it's targets, in 2023 reached it's targets and so far in 2024? So really if we don't hold the company and it's BOD responsible, then who is? I'm not saying we sack anyone I'm not saying the company is dead in the water, I'm saying, if you don't hit targets for years in a row then you should not be rewarded. TBH I don't know what the answer here is, but the fact that we are only allowed to join dots and live in the fairytale world of Nvida, Intel, Arm and Mercedes stops any real discussing in things that are relevant and are a concern. Any negative chat is aggressively 'whack a moled' and discussing it is OFF LIMITS. Time for some to grow up and let all debate take place or otherwise we do end up being just an echo chamber of flowers and free love 💕
Hey man.. What are you talking about?..
Why can't you just chill, sit back and dig how beautiful everything is?..

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But seriously, I think it's a bit hard to have "sales targets" with something as nascent as AKIDA.

The Company does have goals though, to be the default standard and/or one of the 3 main Global players, in the Edge space.

The Company is working towards these goals.
 
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Hey man.. What are you talking about?..
Why can't you just chill, sit back and dig how beautiful everything is?..

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But seriously, I think it's a bit hard to have "sales targets" with something as nascent as AKIDA.

The Company does have goals though, to be the default standard and/or one of the 3 main Global players, in the Edge space.

The Company is working towards these goals.

I don't see Akida in the same light as a COTS product, a vanilla product to be marketed into a static market, and I don't see much point in getting exercised about the teething troubles of the last few years.

1. We have a radically advanced product which, while it will change the whole concept of computing, is unfamiliar to the market.

2. von Neumann computer architecture has been around for over 70 years and has given sterling service with its precision digital mathematics.

3. SNNs do not use precision mathematics. They use probability.

4. The market is a moving target. The AI market has undergone the most rapid changes ever experienced in the field of computing in general and AI in particular.

5. The company has chosen the most difficult market segment to get a toe-hold in, IP licensing.

In relation to point 5, the success or otherwise of the Edge Box may provide an indication of whether the company should have pursued a dual course. However, that option seems to have been closed as far as Akida 2 is concerned. Nevertheless, the Edge Box is being prepared to do battle with a functionally similar product incorporating Nvidia's Jetson processor., a contest I expect we will win on the points of cost, latency, and power, while providing comparable accuracy.

Yes, the waiting is excruciating - the rewards will be ... rewarding.
 
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I don't see Akida in the same light as a COTS product, a vanilla product to be marketed into a static market, and I don't see much point in getting exercised about the teething troubles of the last few years.

1. We have a radically advanced product which, while it will change the whole concept of computing, is unfamiliar to the market.

2. von Neumann computer architecture has been around for over 70 years and has given sterling service with its precision digital mathematics.

3. SNNs do not use precision mathematics. They use probability.

4. The market is a moving target. The AI market has undergone the most rapid changes ever experienced in the field of computing in general and AI in particular.

5. The company has chosen the most difficult market segment to get a toe-hold in, IP licensing.

In relation to point 5, the success or otherwise of the Edge Box may provide an indication of whether the company should have pursued a dual course. However, that option seems to have been closed as far as Akida 2 is concerned. Nevertheless, the Edge Box is being prepared to do battle with a functionally similar product incorporating Nvidia's Jetson processor., a contest I expect we will win on the points of cost, latency, and power, while providing comparable accuracy.

Yes, the waiting is excruciating - the rewards will be rewarding.
As Sean chooses the IP Model with the intent to become ubiquitous I feel the edge box will work as a stepping stone to companies rather than any lost opportunity. Iam no expert on much however BRN technology does seem to be as Peter says a secret sauce which can be poorer on anything and makes it better. The playing field is huge as AI is the future and we will be available to offer everyone that wants AI through these Eco systems, enablers , founders and partners which Sean has put together, The team he has put together to make BRN ubiquitous is unbelievable. It’s not their first Rodeo so I recon we can feel safe from what has been achieved since Sean restructuring.
Happy days ahead for those with the ability to hold. I have been holding now since listing and feel it’s our time to win.
Go Brainchip 2024 come on
 
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German university experimenting with Akida from 27sec mark.

 
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I don't see Akida in the same light as a COTS product, a vanilla product to be marketed into a static market, and I don't see much point in getting exercised about the teething troubles of the last few years.

1. We have a radically advanced product which, while it will change the whole concept of computing, is unfamiliar to the market.

2. von Neumann computer architecture has been around for over 70 years and has given sterling service with its precision digital mathematics.

3. SNNs do not use precision mathematics. They use probability.

4. The market is a moving target. The AI market has undergone the most rapid changes ever experienced in the field of computing in general and AI in particular.

5. The company has chosen the most difficult market segment to get a toe-hold in, IP licensing.

In relation to point 5, the success or otherwise of the Edge Box may provide an indication of whether the company should have pursued a dual course. However, that option seems to have been closed as far as Akida 2 is concerned. Nevertheless, the Edge Box is being prepared to do battle with a functionally similar product incorporating Nvidia's Jetson processor., a contest I expect we will win on the points of cost, latency, and power, while providing comparable accuracy.

Yes, the waiting is excruciating - the rewards will be rewarding.
When you have your CEO say that NVIDIA is not really true AI at the Edge you know you have a radical product offering.
Just to ensure context Sean was not referring to NVIDIA's existing magnificent AI traditional offerings. He was referring to the true Edge which is non cloud.
 
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German university experimenting with Akida from 27sec mark.



Hi GStocks123,

you beat me to it - was just about to post a link to that video as well. It describes two separate experiments involving Akida:

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The video actually goes along with a paper @Fullmoonfever shared a couple of days ago:
Recent paper from a few days ago.

Utilising Akida, Loihi and DynappCNN for the analysis.

Interesting who partially funded the research :unsure:;)

Full paper HERE

@Diogenese may appreciate the technical details more.


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And the paper’s first author, Andreas Ziegler (who also seems to be the speaker in the video, given his distinct Swiss German accent and intonation in English), is the link to Sony AI here:

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This young gentleman has an impressive CV, including an MSc at ETH Zürich as well as internships at Disney Research Zürich and Prophesee. He is currently pursuing his PhD on event-based vision for fast robot control at the University of Tübingen in collaboration with Sony AI Zürich, where he holds a job as research scientist. Great to know he and his co-authors are experimenting with Akida!
 
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German university experimenting with Akida from 27sec mark.


Very cool. Wish the video was longer with added birds eye view and movement tracking
 
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Interesting views from Jensen Huang about AI taking over the future of gaming:


"Technologies powered by artificial intelligence (AI) have been used to enhance GeForce graphics cards for several years now, but its growing capabilities could soon find GPUs out of the driver’s seat in the future. This is according to Nvidia CEO, Jensen Huang, who envisions a future in which every pixel of a game is generated by AI within the next decade."

"During the Q&A session Huang was asked: “How far do you think we are in this world where every pixel is generated at real-time frame rates? And what is your vision for gaming and non-gaming experiences in that new paradigm?”

Huang’s response was somewhat lengthy, and we’ve included it below, but for the sake of brevity we’ll zoom in on a few claims he made, specifically: “We’re probably already two years into it. And so I would say that within the next five to ten years.”

"As someone who frequently uses DLSS upscaling, I’ve already become well accustomed to games partly rendered by AI. With this in mind, the idea of my GPU becoming subservient to, or replaced by, a neural processing unit (NPU) doesn’t feel like an impossible future."
 
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