BRN Discussion Ongoing

[Frangipani]

Also…Sean confirmed the company that is manufacturing the glasses for Onsor is the same one doing them for Meta. I thought that was interesting synergy there.

Maybe you should stop laughing and hear what he says at 14.29
Onsor" moving aggressively and frames are being designed by none other that LUXOTTICA! The same company (Ray bans) who are making the meta glasses. Based on this little nugget I'm gonna buy a shit ton more shares in the next few weeks...
Now back to your whining, crying and laughing.
PS I think Sean presented amazing well here. Im a fan....

EssilorLuxottica must have been one of the companies Steve Brightfield was referring to in his CES 2025 interview with Don Baine aka The Gadget Professor, when he said:

https://thestockexchange.com.au/threads/brn-discussion-ongoing.1/post-446882

“(…) I talked to some manufacturers that have glasses, where they put microphones in the front and then AI algorithms in the arm of the glasses, and it doesn’t look like you’re wearing hearing aids, but you’re getting this much improved audio quality. Because most people have minor hearing loss and they don't want the stigma of wearing hearing aids, but this kind of removes it - oh, it's an earbud, oh, it's glasses I am wearing, and now I can hear and engage."

DB: “Sure, I could see that, that's great. So does this technology exist? Is that something someone could purchase in a hearing aid, for example?”

SB: “Actually, I’ve seen manufacturers out on the floor doing this.
We are working with some manufacturers to put more advanced algorithms in the current ones in there, yes.”


He didn’t specify which manufacturers or even confirm BrainChip were working with any of those manufacturers that were exhibiting at CES (note he didn’t say “I’ve seen manufacturers on the floor doing this. We are working with some of those manufacturers…”).

What this little dialogue does imply though, is that BrainChip’s technology is not yet implemented in any of the models that are already commercially available, such as the Nuance Audio OTC (Over The Counter) Hearing Aid Glasses that EssilorLuxottica launched earlier this year.

In January 2024, @Tothemoon24 had posted about their prototype to be displayed at CES 2024:

In July, EssilorLuxottica announced its plans to expand into the hearing solutions market, enabled by its acquisition of Nuance Hearing earlier in the year. With a dedicated Super Audio team and in-house R&D resources, the Group plans to introduce an integrated technology at the intersection of vision and sound for the 1.25 billion people experiencing mild to moderate hearing loss.



The Group’s Super Audio team is working on its first product, embedding a high-quality hearing technology into fashionable eyeglasses seamlessly, expected to launch in the second half of 2024.



Francesco Milleri, Chairman and CEO of EssilorLuxottica, and Paul du Saillant, deputy CEO said: “While sight remains our core business – and growing the optical market our strategy – we are uniquely positioned to open up a new avenue for the industry by addressing the need for good hearing with innovative technologies. As we did in the vision space, we will be the first to remove the stigma of traditional hearing solutions, replacing it with comfort and style.”


Maybe one for the watch list

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The audio component will be completely invisible, removing a psychological barrier that has historically stood in the way of consumer adoption of traditional hearing aids.



A prototype of the solution will be on display at the upcoming Consumer Electronics Show, the most powerful tech event in the world, which will be taking place from the 9 to the 12 of January 2024 in Las Vegas.

With their fully developed solution, EssilorLuxottica clinched an award in Digital Health at CES 2025:

https://www.ces.tech/ces-innovation-awards/2025/nuance-audio-otc-hearing-aid-glasses/

A month later, they had received FDA clearance and EU Certifications, which paved the way to make Nuance Audio available to consumers in the US and Europe:

EssilorLuxottica receives FDA clearance and EU certifications for Nuance Audio | EssilorLuxottica

EssilorLuxottica receives FDA clearance and EU certifications for Nuance Audio, making it available to consumers in the U.S. and Europe

www.essilorluxottica.com

Hearing Glasses | Nuance Audio

Discover Nuance Audio glasses: the new hearing eyewear at the intersection of sight and hearing. Glasses with invisible open-ear-speakers to reduce listening fatigue.

www.nuanceaudio.com

Here are more details about the Nuance Audio hearing glasses courtesy of Soundly, “a single destination for hearing aid research, shopping, and expert care”, including a recent video review:

Nuance Audio Hearing Glasses Review: Features, Price & How They Compare

Discover Nuance Audio Hearing Glasses in this in-depth review. Learn about features, pricing, pros & cons, and how they compare to traditional hearing aids.

www.soundly.com

The Nuance Audio hearing glasses are now also available for purchase here in Germany, where they sell for 1100 €.

https://www.apollo.de/inspiration/nuance

One drawback is their limited battery life (8-10 hours per charge) - that’s where neuromorphic technology could come in handy, extending the battery life of future models of such hearing aid eyewear.

 

[wilson]

EssilorLuxottica must have been one of the companies Steve Brightfield was referring to in his CES 2025 interview with Don Baine aka The Gadget Professor, when he said:

https://thestockexchange.com.au/threads/brn-discussion-ongoing.1/post-446882

“(…) I talked to some manufacturers that have glasses, where they put microphones in the front and then AI algorithms in the arm of the glasses, and it doesn’t look like you’re wearing hearing aids, but you’re getting this much improved audio quality. Because most people have minor hearing loss and they don't want the stigma of wearing hearing aids, but this kind of removes it - oh, it's an earbud, oh, it's glasses I am wearing, and now I can hear and engage."

DB: “Sure, I could see that, that's great. So does this technology exist? Is that something someone could purchase in a hearing aid, for example?”

SB: “Actually, I’ve seen manufacturers out on the floor doing this.
We are working with some manufacturers to put more advanced algorithms in the current ones in there, yes.”


He didn’t specify which manufacturers or even confirm BrainChip were working with any of those manufacturers that were exhibiting at CES (note he didn’t say “I’ve seen manufacturers on the floor doing this. We are working with some of those manufacturers…”).

What this little dialogue does imply though, is that BrainChip’s technology is not yet implemented in any of the models that are already commercially available, such as the Nuance Audio OTC (Over The Counter) Hearing Aid Glasses that EssilorLuxottica launched earlier this year.

In January 2024, @Tothemoon24 had posted about their prototype to be displayed at CES 2024:



With their fully developed solution, EssilorLuxottica clinched an award in Digital Health at CES 2025:

https://www.ces.tech/ces-innovation-awards/2025/nuance-audio-otc-hearing-aid-glasses/

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A month later, they had received FDA clearance and EU Certifications, which paved the way to make Nuance Audio available to consumers in the US and Europe:

EssilorLuxottica receives FDA clearance and EU certifications for Nuance Audio | EssilorLuxottica

EssilorLuxottica receives FDA clearance and EU certifications for Nuance Audio, making it available to consumers in the U.S. and Europe

www.essilorluxottica.com

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Hearing Glasses | Nuance Audio

Discover Nuance Audio glasses: the new hearing eyewear at the intersection of sight and hearing. Glasses with invisible open-ear-speakers to reduce listening fatigue.

www.nuanceaudio.com

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Here are more details about the Nuance Audio hearing glasses courtesy of Soundly, “a single destination for hearing aid research, shopping, and expert care”, including a recent video review:

Nuance Audio Hearing Glasses Review: Features, Price & How They Compare

Discover Nuance Audio Hearing Glasses in this in-depth review. Learn about features, pricing, pros & cons, and how they compare to traditional hearing aids.

www.soundly.com

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The Nuance Audio hearing glasses are now also available for purchase here in Germany, where they sell for 1100 €.

https://www.apollo.de/inspiration/nuance

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One drawback is their limited battery life (8-10 hours per charge) - that’s where neuromorphic technology could come in handy, extending the battery life of future models of such hearing aid eyewear.

How much longer would neuromorphic technology extend battery life in your opinion?

 

[wilson]

Good presentation.
Sean says from the 3.48min mark, that we will be hitting our stride, within the next 10 to 20 years.

Haha, gotta think long term

 

[Baneino]

Correct me if I am wrong but I think Innatera T1 doe not have on chip learning as AKIDA does.

As far as I know, the T1 cannot do this

 

[wilson]

Also…Sean confirmed the company that is manufacturing the glasses for Onsor is the same one doing them for Meta. I thought that was interesting synergy there.

To me it is an indicator that they are a reliable manufacturer at the very least. Many of the quality control processes could potentially be common for both product streams.

 

[BrainShit]

Summary for [BrainChip spoke at the Pitt Street Research Semiconductor Conference 2025]


[00:01](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IegDQDnNRvU&t=1)

In this presentation, Sean Hair talks about the role of BrainChip in the field of Artificial Intelligence and the semiconductor industry. He emphasizes the importance of neural processing units (NPUs) and describes the widespread adoption of AI in various industries - Introduction of Sean Hair and his background in the semiconductor industry.

• Explanation of BrainChip's role as a provider of neural processing units (NPUs) for AI applications.
• Discussion of the widespread adoption of AI and its impact on all industries.

[03:28](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IegDQDnNRvU&t=208)
This presentation will highlight the importance of inference in AI development, while focusing on the need for the right hardware to create business value - Nvidia and similar companies specialize in training AI models, with a focus on inference, where the real value for businesses comes from.

• Over the next 10 to 20 years, the majority of investment will go into inference, while the training market will remain stable.
• The trend is towards decentralized models, with Edge AI gaining traction and the right technology required for specific business problems.
• Data centers are ideal for training AI models, while the development of edge AI opens up new opportunities for the implementation of AI in various industries.

[07:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IegDQDnNRvU&t=420)

In this section, the speaker talks about his company's strengths and opportunities in semiconductor technology and emphasizes the importance of innovative applications - The speaker notes the challenge that companies often have either good hardware or good software and emphasizes that his company is strong in both areas.

• He explains the size and growth potential of the edge market and emphasizes that the demand for semiconductor solutions is increasing.
• The speaker shares his excitement about the innovative use cases he is hearing from customers and prospects and emphasizes that it is still early in the development process.
• He discusses the efficiency of models and applications compared to different hardware solutions and warns that not everything that is possible is useful.

[10:29](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IegDQDnNRvU&t=629)

This section highlights the importance of models and innovation in the semiconductor industry, especially for the development of AI solutions and the need to provide a comprehensive solution - customization of software and models to specific requirements is crucial for success in the industry.

• An extensive model pool is necessary to meet different customer needs and ensure continuous growth.
• Importance is placed on the company's roadmap to give customers confidence in future technology.
• Constant innovation is essential to remain relevant in the highly competitive Silicon market.

[14:01](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IegDQDnNRvU&t=841)

This section introduces BrainChip's innovative technology that can significantly improve the lives of people with epilepsy. A partner company is developing a pair of glasses equipped with a special chip that predicts the probability of an impending seizure with 98% accuracy - The government is showing great interest in investing in new technologies.

• The company OnSour is working on a pair of glasses equipped with a brain chip that is currently undergoing clinical trials.
• The glasses can predict seizures in epilepsy patients, giving them greater safety and quality of life.
• The presentation also explains how companies like BrainChip generate revenue through license sales and royalties.

[17:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IegDQDnNRvU&t=1050)

This section emphasizes the importance of talent and strategic planning for success in the technology industry. It emphasizes the importance of attracting and retaining the best talent while addressing the challenges and risks within the company - challenges include potential risks and talent issues that are critical to the company's success.

• The importance of talent is emphasized; the company strives to attract the best professionals to drive change.
• Talent management is a major challenge as the company competes against high salaries in Silicon Valley.
• There is a risk that the company will not properly execute its strategic plan, highlighting the need for constant review of trends in the industry.
• The discussion about new model trends in AI, particularly the development of state space models, demonstrates the company's ability to innovate.

[21:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IegDQDnNRvU&t=1260)

This discussion on BrainChip emphasizes the importance of discrete computing solutions and their applications in various industries - Discrete computing solutions make it possible to work without a network connection, which is especially important in mobile applications.

• The technology has an impact on many industries, with some such as IoT and medical being in particularly high demand.
• The technology is also being researched in the automotive sector, but the adoption cycle is longer here due to the complexity of the systems.

My personal thoughts: BrainChip will need money to keep up his development and have to make sure it is able to pay a decent salary to their experts. Otherwise we'll loose grip ... or be taking over.

 

[Diogenese]

How much longer would neuromorphic technology extend battery life in your opinion?

Hi wilson,

Inference is a very compute-heavy task, but Akida excels in this.

It's difficult to find power usage stats for a particular task, much less comparison between different processors. However, this is a comparison between Akida and Jetson for KWS:

https://brainchip.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/BrainChip_Benchmarking-Edge-AI-Inference-1.pdf

That's 33.17 : 756 less power for KWS, about 250 times less power for the KWS task using 2 nodes (4 NPUs) of Akida. Remember that Akida 1000 does have a relative large "standby" power usage of about 1 W, but if Akida 1500 is used, there is no dedicated Cortex processor. I don't know the standby power for Nvidia. Akida 2 is said to be 8 times more efficient than Akida 1. Then there's TENNs which is even more efficient.

In performing inference, Akida 2 is potentially more than 1000 times more efficient than the GPU-based Jetson Nano.

However, some hearing aid glasses do not use AI, so it's nor an apples : apples comparison:

https://www.wired.com/review/essilorluxottica-nuance-audio-glasses/

The Nuance Audio builds on technology the company pioneered last year for its Ray-Ban Meta glasses, which pipe audio to the wearer via open-ear speakers built into each arm of the specs. There’s no camera or intelligence (nor an Awkwafina voice option) on the Nuance Audio, as these speakers are meant to amplify ambient sounds captured by the directional microphones and send them to, or at least near, your ears. You can’t even see the speakers on the glasses or pinpoint where the sound is coming from while you’re wearing them. It’s just … there.

 

[wilson]

Hi wilson,

Inference is a very compute-heavy task, but Akida excels in this.

It's difficult to find power usage stats for a particular task, much less comparison between different processors. However, this is a comparison between Akida and Jetson for KWS:
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https://brainchip.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/BrainChip_Benchmarking-Edge-AI-Inference-1.pdf

That's 33.17 : 756 less power for KWS, about 250 times less power for the KWS task using 2 nodes (4 NPUs) of Akida. Remember that Akida 1000 does have a relative large "standby" power usage of about 1 W, but if Akida 1500 is used, there is no dedicated Cortex processor. I don't know the standby power for Nvidia. Akida 2 is said to be 8 times more efficient than Akida 1. Then there's TENNs which is even more efficient.

In performing inference, Akida 2 is potentially more than 1000 times efficient than the GPU-based Jetson Nano.

However, some hearing aid glasses do not use AI, so it's nor an apples : apples comparison:

https://www.wired.com/review/essilorluxottica-nuance-audio-glasses/

The Nuance Audio builds on technology the company pioneered last year for its Ray-Ban Meta glasses, which pipe audio to the wearer via open-ear speakers built into each arm of the specs. There’s no camera or intelligence (nor an Awkwafina voice option) on the Nuance Audio, as these speakers are meant to amplify ambient sounds captured by the directional microphones and send them to, or at least near, your ears. You can’t even see the speakers on the glasses or pinpoint where the sound is coming from while you’re wearing them. It’s just … there.

Hey, that is such a detailed reply. Thanks very much for taking the time

 

[Frangipani]

How much longer would neuromorphic technology extend battery life in your opinion?

Hi @wilson,

sorry, I don’t have any technical background, so I need to rely on what we’re being told by our company or others in this field.

In that same CES 2025 interview I quoted from in my previous post, Steve Brightfield said the following:

“… and we announced this fall Akida Pico, which is microwatts, so we can use a hearing aid battery and have this run for days and days doing detection algorithms [?]. So it is really applicable to put on wearables, put it in eye glasses, put it in earbuds, put it in smart watches.” (from 4:18 min)

Smarter, Faster, Hyper-Efficient: Why Event-Based Computing is Key to AI at the Edge

Event-based computing is transforming AI processing, delivering smarter, faster, and hyper-efficient solutions across industries like IoT, healthcare, and automotive.

www.wevolver.com

You may also want to have a look at this:

The Audio Revolution at the Edge

The Audio Revolution at the Edge In today’s interconnected world, clear and noise-free audio has become more crucial than ever. From wireless earbuds to smart home devices and enterprise communication systems, the demand for high-quality audio processing continues to grow. At BrainChip, we’re...

brainchip.com

 

[jrp173]

As fascinating as the technology is, I don't think I'm going too far out on a limb by saying for us here it's all about the share price.
Just watching how the price has been manipulated over the last several years, when the inevitable price sensitive announcement drops I hope the share price reflects the achievement and it isn't contained and controlled by whoever the scumbags are who have been doing the manipulating.

It's not manipulation that keeping the share price down, it's our board who refuse to make announcements through the ASX about our own company. The board who won't do anything to keep current (and potential) shareholders informed.

The board who says the share price will do what the share price will do.

The blame lies squarely at their feet.

 

[Jacob Kiraz]

It's not manipulation that keeping the share price down, it's our board who refuse to make announcements through the ASX about our own company. The board who won't do anything to keep current (and potential) shareholders informed.

The board who says the share price will do what the share price will do.

The blame lies squarely at their feet.

They don't care there going to America

 

[Rach2512]

#icra2025 #neuromorphic #visualplacerecognition #localization #mapping… | Michael Milford

Tobi up on the big stage and screen at #ICRA2025 doing a fab job delivering his keynote!!! In his keynote 🎤 on "Visual Place Recognition: Navigating Without GPS Using Bio-Inspired Approaches", Tobi explored how neuromorphic (🧠 brain-inspired) systems, using event-based cameras 📸 and spiking...

www.linkedin.com

Interesting talk, talks about spiking neural networks, not Brainchip, but raising awareness of the energy efficiency.

Perhaps someone with a lot more technical knowledge than me can post a comment