BRN will not receive buyout proposals IMO until there is more certainy regarding the arrival of AI at the Edge and real growth appears.I been wondering the same.
It's actually worrying if none of the big companies will try buying brainchip, they don't really consider them a treat if that's the case.
Okay Nvidia isn't only edge but got really many things going on, like working for M.B..
Maybe they read Peter's article?Intel NPU Library v1.2 Adds Int4 Support & Performance Optimizations
Written by Michael Larabel in Intel on 5 June 2024 at 06:20 AM EDT. 4 Comments
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Intel released a new version of its NPU Acceleration Library, the user-space Python library for leveraging the Neural Processing Unit (NPU) found within their Core Ultra "Meteor Lake" laptops and upcoming Lunar Lake and Arrow Lake hardware as well.
The Intel NPU Library makes it easy to exploit the potential of the NPU hardware on systems with the IVPU kernel driver present. Thanks to this library, in just a few lines of Python code it's possible to perform matrix multiplication on the NPU, compiling PyTorch models for the NPU, and even run Tiny Llama on the NPU.
With today's v1.2 update, there is now int4 support plumbed into this library. In addition to now working with int4 data types, the Intel NPU Library 1.2 offers new backend performance optimizations, Scalar Dot Production Attention (SDPA) NPU kernel support, and persistent compilation handling.![]()
Downloads and more details on the Intel NPU Library 1.2 release via GitHub.
I want to thank you and the others here for always providing objective counterarguments and having the patience to stand up to the trolls and bashers in the HC forum. I can't manage it and quickly digress... It's due to my southern European temperament... even if one tries to stay calm. Keep it up!BRN will not receive buyout proposals IMO until there is more certainy regarding the arrival of AI at the Edge and real growth appears.
To many uncertainties until then which is reflected in the SP at the moment.
Once Edge growth becomes exponential eyebrows will be raised and BRN will become a target.
If edge growth was known to be verysoon and known to be exponential very soon then the SP would right now be many, many times its current level.
No, Chris Jones started working for Meta in June 2022, see my post and his LinkedIn profile.
That’s exactly why I wrote the following:
But has there ever been any indication that Meta was indeed an EAP customer at the time? Any announcement as with other EAP customers? If not, we shouldn’t simply assume so.
But for the sake of the discussion, let’s assume for a minute it was indeed the case.
In practice, the overlapping period regarding Chris Jones working for Meta and his introduction to BrainChip and TENNs would have been much shorter, though, given that Chris Jones said on May 23, 2024
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Saying “about a year ago” on May 23, 2024 could mean July, June, May, April, possibly even March 2023. He certainly wouldn’t have put it that way if he and his colleagues had already been introduced to BrainChip in let’s say October 2022. And since he appears to have been laid off in mid-April, the potential time window shrinks to a maximum of six weeks, I’d say. That’s far from the nine months you claimed.
Your use of the participle “outplaced” instead of “laid off” implies that Meta would have helped him to find his current job? Again, there is no indication of that at all when you read his LinkedIn post, especially the last paragraph:
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Mind you, I did not say there is no way that Chris Jones could have found out about TENNs while still working for Meta, but to me his words are certainly not conclusive evidence, the way FF presented them. They can very well be interpreted differently, especially with the background knowledge that he was laid off more than a year ago (which he didn’t mention in the video). I had already taken notice of that a while ago, when I had had a look at his LinkedIn profile after learning that he would be the one giving the talk Nandan Nayampally was supposed to have presented. (This was even before we found out from the Quarterly Investor podcast that Nandan and Rob had all of a sudden left the company.)
So no, mine is not a tendentious reading and I am not shooting myself in the foot either, if that is what you meant to say. My argument is well-founded. I don’t exclude the possibility that Chris Jones got introduced to BrainChip while still working for Meta, but I believe it is the unlikelier sequence of events for the reasons stated.
Also: Why would he have asked his LinkedIn network for assistance in finding a new job in his April 2023 LinkedIn post and only started working for BrainChip in October 2023? If he had already been that excited about our company prior to being laid off at Meta, they might even have been able to offer him a new position from August onwards, a smooth transition from Meta to BrainChip without a paycheck missing. Of course I have no idea whether it was possibly a deliberate decision of Chris Jones to pick October as the start date for his new job (maybe he wanted to spend quality time with his family between jobs, go on a long vacation, rest and recharge, renovate the house or perhaps he was suffering from an illness, was taking care of elderly relatives or was grieving for a loved one etc) or whether there was simply no earlier job vacancy for his position at BrainChip, but the two month gap between jobs could just as well signify that he didn’t yet know about BrainChip’s offerings by the time he started looking for a new job and that they were possibly not even his first choice.
Ultimately, everything - and that includes FF’s reading - is speculation, unless we hear it from the horse’s mouth. Can we at least agree on that?
Would you even call SNN's a Neural Network architecture?But has there ever been any indication that Meta was indeed an EAP customer at the time? Any announcement as with other EAP customers? If not, we shouldn’t simply assume so.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. There would be an NDA and it is possible that Meta insisted on secrecy about the collaboration.
I did not assume Meta was an EAP. I thought there was a reasonable inference to be made based on the available evidence.
I have trouble understanding your 6 week window. It seems to be unsupported conjecture.
Chris Jones said
“So, about a year ago, uh, I was at Meta, I was in their AI Infrastructure Group, and on an almost daily basis I would see new neural network architectures.
So, when I was introduced to BrainChip, I didn’t think I would really be impressed by anything a small team was gonna develop, erm. They told me about TENNs, I was a little bit skeptical to be honest at first. As I started getting to understand the benchmarks and a little bit more of the math and how it worked, I started to get pretty excited by what they had.”
Your contention is that this means "on an almost daily basis (in the last 6 weeks) of my time at Meta, I would see new NNs."
... and then, ... and then ... and then ... (along came Jones), some time after he left Meta, someone introduced him to TeNNs while he was on gardening leave.
I find that quite implausible.
A possible alternative interpretation is "Up until about a year ago, I was at Meta, and on an almost daily basis I would see new NNs."
" So, when I was introduced to BrainChip, I didn’t think I would really be impressed by anything a small team was gonna develop, erm. They told me about TENNs, I was a little bit skeptical to be honest at first."
Does that sound like someone on gardening leave, or someone with the weary or arrogant disdain of the "not-invented-here" attitude nurtured in a mega-corporation.
Chris jones was introduced to Brainchip, and they told him about TeNNs. So was the Akida marketing group going around talking to random gardeners in the off-chance they wished to lay out a lazy $5M for a licence?
The more we discuss this, the more I am inclined towards the possibility of Meta being an EAP. Mr Ed is galloping this way.
Fingers crossedMaybe they read Peter's article?
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Meta has over 100 patents referencing NNs, eg:But has there ever been any indication that Meta was indeed an EAP customer at the time? Any announcement as with other EAP customers? If not, we shouldn’t simply assume so.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. There would be an NDA and it is possible that Meta insisted on secrecy about the collaboration.
I did not assume Meta was an EAP. I thought there was a reasonable inference to be made based on the available evidence.
I have trouble understanding your 6 week window. It seems to be unsupported conjecture.
Chris Jones said
“So, about a year ago, uh, I was at Meta, I was in their AI Infrastructure Group, and on an almost daily basis I would see new neural network architectures.
So, when I was introduced to BrainChip, I didn’t think I would really be impressed by anything a small team was gonna develop, erm. They told me about TENNs, I was a little bit skeptical to be honest at first. As I started getting to understand the benchmarks and a little bit more of the math and how it worked, I started to get pretty excited by what they had.”
Your contention is that this means "on an almost daily basis (in the last 6 weeks) of my time at Meta, I would see new NNs."
... and then, ... and then ... and then ... (along came Jones), some time after he left Meta, someone introduced him to TeNNs while he was on gardening leave.
I find that quite implausible.
A possible alternative interpretation is "Up until about a year ago, I was at Meta, and on an almost daily basis I would see new NNs."
" So, when I was introduced to BrainChip, I didn’t think I would really be impressed by anything a small team was gonna develop, erm. They told me about TENNs, I was a little bit skeptical to be honest at first."
Does that sound like someone on gardening leave, or someone with the weary or arrogant disdain of the "not-invented-here" attitude nurtured in a mega-corporation.
Chris jones was introduced to Brainchip, and they told him about TeNNs. So was the Akida marketing group going around talking to random gardeners in the off-chance they wished to lay out a lazy $5M for a licence?
The more we discuss this, the more I am inclined towards the possibility of Meta being an EAP. Mr Ed is galloping this way.
"You apparently still can't get your hands on the 2.0 launched March 2023! Hmm, hopefully one day eh!"Akida by Brainchip is an advanced artificial intelligence processor inspired by the neural architecture of the human brain, designed to provide high-performance AI capabilities at the edge with exceptional energy efficiency. Version 1.0 is available for purchase in the form factor of PCIe x1 as shown in Figure 3, and supports convolutional neural network architectures. Version 2.0 adds support for a variety of neural network types including RNNs and transformer architectures, but is currently only available in simulation.
You apparently still can't get your hands on the 2.0 launched March 2023! Hmm, hopefully one day eh!
The 6 month price chart is very depressing looking, a very short spike to 0.49 cent and then slowly bleeding out from then on.
Not sure the TENN's whitepaper will move the needle, doubt it but hopefully people in the industry will be very impressed.
It's over my pay-grade I must admit.
We need a IP deal or two to move the needle, that I know.
https://brainchip.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/TENNs_Whitepaper_Final.pdf
"But has there ever been any indication that Meta was indeed an EAP customer at the time? Any announcement as with other EAP customers? If not, we shouldn’t simply assume so".No, Chris Jones started working for Meta in June 2022, see my post and his LinkedIn profile.
That’s exactly why I wrote the following:
But has there ever been any indication that Meta was indeed an EAP customer at the time? Any announcement as with other EAP customers? If not, we shouldn’t simply assume so.
But for the sake of the discussion, let’s assume for a minute it was indeed the case.
In practice, the overlapping period regarding Chris Jones working for Meta and his introduction to BrainChip and TENNs would have been much shorter, though, given that Chris Jones said on May 23, 2024
“So, about a year ago, uh, I was at Meta, I was in their AI Infrastructure Group, and on an almost daily basis I would see new neural network architectures.
So, when I was introduced to BrainChip, I didn’t think I would really be impressed by anything a small team was gonna develop, erm. They told me about TENNs, I was a little bit skeptical to be honest at first. As I started getting to understand the benchmarks and a little bit more of the math and how it worked, I started to get pretty excited by what they had.”
Saying “about a year ago” on May 23, 2024 could mean July, June, May, April, possibly even March 2023. He certainly wouldn’t have put it that way if he and his colleagues had already been introduced to BrainChip in let’s say October 2022. And since he appears to have been laid off in mid-April, the potential time window shrinks to a maximum of six weeks, I’d say. That’s far from the nine months you claimed.
Your use of the participle “outplaced” instead of “laid off” implies that Meta would have helped him to find his current job? Again, there is no indication of that at all when you read his LinkedIn post, especially the last paragraph:
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Mind you, I did not say there is no way that Chris Jones could have found out about TENNs while still working for Meta, but to me his words are certainly not conclusive evidence, the way FF presented them. They can very well be interpreted differently, especially with the background knowledge that he was laid off more than a year ago (which he didn’t mention in the video). I had already taken notice of that a while ago, when I had had a look at his LinkedIn profile after learning that he would be the one giving the talk Nandan Nayampally was supposed to have presented. (This was even before we found out from the Quarterly Investor podcast that Nandan and Rob had all of a sudden left the company.)
So no, mine is not a tendentious reading and I am not shooting myself in the foot either, if that is what you meant to say. My argument is well-founded. I don’t exclude the possibility that Chris Jones got introduced to BrainChip while still working for Meta, but I believe it is the unlikelier sequence of events for the reasons stated.
Also: Why would he have asked his LinkedIn network for assistance in finding a new job in his April 2023 LinkedIn post and only started working for BrainChip in October 2023? If he had already been that excited about our company prior to being laid off at Meta, they might even have been able to offer him a new position from August onwards, a smooth transition from Meta to BrainChip without a paycheck missing. Of course I have no idea whether it was possibly a deliberate decision of Chris Jones to pick October as the start date for his new job (maybe he wanted to spend quality time with his family between jobs, go on a long vacation, rest and recharge, renovate the house or perhaps he was suffering from an illness, was taking care of elderly relatives or was grieving for a loved one etc) or whether there was simply no earlier job vacancy for his position at BrainChip, but the two month gap between jobs could just as well signify that he didn’t yet know about BrainChip’s offerings by the time he started looking for a new job and that they were possibly not even his first choice.
Ultimately, everything - and that includes FF’s reading - is speculation, unless we hear it from the horse’s mouth. Can we at least agree on that?