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Four golf bags. Did you guys hear that? Four golf bags - who cares if Akida is in it....FOUR GOLF BAGS!
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Da fark was that from Merc... all over in 5 mins.
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I know right. I could have held onto my wee and see the start. Buggar.
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That's not funny Bravo. I needed something like that 8 months ago. I used to read some of the posts 7-8 times with an open dictionary/google because it was doing my head in
trying to understand the terminology. It felt like being back at uni then it just clicked.
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LOL..... nar thanks.
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Media Release is out.
There is a section on AI but no direct references to neuromorphic or SNN technology.
It is however confirmed that both the EQS and EQS SUV include second generation MBUX which I don't think was confirmed. Jury is out at this stage.
Cheers,
With the EQS Sedan, MBUX (Mercedes-Benz User Experience) reached a new level. The second generation of this system is also used in the EQS SUV. With adaptive software, the display and operating concept adapts completely to its users and makes personalized suggestions for numerous infotainment, comfort and vehicle functions. The zero-layer design means that the user does not have to scroll through submenus or give voice commands. The key applications are always offered on the top level in the field of vision, depending on the situation and context. This relieves the driver of numerous operating steps. The immersive Dolby AtmosĀ® sound system revolutionizes the sound experience and expands the classic surround sound. It is available with the BurmesterĀ® surround sound system.
The infotainment systems offer numerous and extensive functions. Several operating steps are often required to control them. In order to reduce these interactive steps even further, Mercedes-Benz employed artificial intelligence to develop a user interface with context-sensitive awareness.
The MBUX system proactively displays the right functions at the right time for the user, supported by artificial intelligence. The context-sensitive awareness is constantly optimized, both by changes in the surroundings and by user behavior. The 'zero layer' offers the user dynamic, aggregated content from the entire MBUX system, and thus the associated services, on the uppermost level of the MBUX information architecture.
The navigation application with its full range of functions is therefore always in the center of the display unit. Over 20 other functions - from ENERGIZING COMFORT to birthday reminders and suggestions for the to-do list - are automatically offered with the help of artificial intelligence when they are relevant to the customer. The developers have internally christened these suggestion modules displayed on the zero-layer interface "magic modules".
Here are five use cases. The user can accept or reject the respective suggestion with just one click:
The EQS SUV features the latest MBUX generation. As standard, the EQS 450+ is equipped with a 12.3-inch driver's display and a 12.8-inch central display in portrait orientation. The impressive MBUX Hyperscreen is available as an option. There, the front passenger also has their own screen.
Hey Mercedes: the voice assistant can now do even more
Compared with the previous MBUX generation, the "Hey Mercedes" voice assistant is even more capable of dialogue and learning through activating online services in the Mercedes me App2. Moreover, certain actions can be performed even without the activation keyword "Hey Mercedes". These include accepting a telephone call. "Hey Mercedes" now also explains vehicle functions, and can help when asked how to connect a smartphone by Bluetooth or where the first-aid kit can be found. Compatible home technology and household devices can also be networked with the vehicle thanks to the smart home function and controlled from the vehicle through MBUX. Once the individual characteristics of the voice have been learned, this can be used to access personal data and functions by activating a profile.
The voice assistant in the EQS SUV can also be operated from the backseat. In general, backseat passengers experience the same comprehensive infotainment and comfort offerings as the driver and front passenger. They have the option for up to two rear-seat screens plus a tablet and a wide range of intuitive controls.
MBUX High-End Rear Seat Entertainment Plus: providing front row comfort
Screen content can be quickly and easily shared with other passengers. Selection and modification of navigation destinations also is possible from the rear seats. MBUX High-End Rear Seat Entertainment Plus comprises two 11.6-inch displays with touch controls on the backrests of the driver and front passenger seats. The MBUX rear tablet is also optionally available. It is a fully fledged tablet and can also be used outside the vehicle. In addition, (Android) apps can be installed. With this convenient remote control, all rear seat entertainment functions can be comfortably controlled from any seat position.
Using cameras in the overhead control panel and learning algorithms, the MBUX Interior Assistant recognizes and anticipates the wishes and intentions of the occupants. It interprets which way the head points, hand movements and body language and reacts with appropriate vehicle functions. As well as enhancing operating convenience, the MBUX Interior Assistant improves safety. If it is switched on, the vehicle exit warning of Blind Spot Assist is already issued when a hand approaches the door handle. It can also detect a child seat on the front passenger seat and signal on the central display if the vehicle seat belt is not buckled.
Dolby AtmosĀ®: Close to the real live music experience
The standard Dolby Atmos immersive sound systemĀ® takes the audio experience in the EQS SUV to a new level. Individual instruments or voices of the studio mix can be placed all around the listening area. A new kind of sound animation thus becomes possible: This is because while conventional stereo systems usually have a left-right dynamic, Dolby AtmosĀ® can use the entire area and create a 360-degree experience.
Dolby AtmosĀ® is offered with the BurmesterĀ® surround sound system, which has 15 speakers.
Online music: music streaming with millions of songs to choose from
Mercedes-Benz has completely integrated many music streaming providers into the MBUX infotainment system with the "Online Music"3 service. MBUX enables access to the personal user profile at the linked music providers. This allows customers to seamlessly access their favorite songs and playlists and discover millions of songs as well as curated playlists. Operation is intuitive using the MBUX voice assistant via "Hey Mercedes" and via touch controls on the steering wheel or central display.
Personalization is simple and convenient
A personal profile can be created directly in the EQS SUV and synchronized with existing profile data in the Mercedes me account. By scanning a QR code with the Mercedes me App, the vehicle is automatically connected to the Mercedes me account.
Personal preferences such as a favorite radio station and preselected settings can be transferred to any seat via the personal Mercedes me profile. Up to seven different profiles with a total of around 800 parameters are possible in the vehicle. The ambient lighting can be individually set by remote configuration, i.e. from home. As the profiles are stored in the cloud as part of Mercedes me, the profiles can also be used in other Mercedes-Benz vehicles with the new MBUX generation.
In addition to the classic entry of a PIN, a special authentication procedure ensures a high level of security. Fingerprint, face and voice recognition are combined. This allows access to individual settings or verification of digital payment processes from the vehicle.
2 To use the Mercedes me connect services, customers must create a Mercedes me ID and agree to the terms of use for the Mercedes me connect services. The services shown and their availability and functionalities depend in particular on the vehicle model, year of manufacture, selected special equipment and country.
3 In order to be able to use the Online Music service, customers will require a separate personal contract with a selected streaming provider.
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media.mbusa.com
There is a section on AI but no direct references to neuromorphic or SNN technology.
It is however confirmed that both the EQS and EQS SUV include second generation MBUX which I don't think was confirmed. Jury is out at this stage.
Cheers,
Fewer operating steps thanks to artificial intelligence
The new EQS SUV: MBUX (Mercedes-Benz User Experience)With the EQS Sedan, MBUX (Mercedes-Benz User Experience) reached a new level. The second generation of this system is also used in the EQS SUV. With adaptive software, the display and operating concept adapts completely to its users and makes personalized suggestions for numerous infotainment, comfort and vehicle functions. The zero-layer design means that the user does not have to scroll through submenus or give voice commands. The key applications are always offered on the top level in the field of vision, depending on the situation and context. This relieves the driver of numerous operating steps. The immersive Dolby AtmosĀ® sound system revolutionizes the sound experience and expands the classic surround sound. It is available with the BurmesterĀ® surround sound system.
The infotainment systems offer numerous and extensive functions. Several operating steps are often required to control them. In order to reduce these interactive steps even further, Mercedes-Benz employed artificial intelligence to develop a user interface with context-sensitive awareness.
The MBUX system proactively displays the right functions at the right time for the user, supported by artificial intelligence. The context-sensitive awareness is constantly optimized, both by changes in the surroundings and by user behavior. The 'zero layer' offers the user dynamic, aggregated content from the entire MBUX system, and thus the associated services, on the uppermost level of the MBUX information architecture.
The navigation application with its full range of functions is therefore always in the center of the display unit. Over 20 other functions - from ENERGIZING COMFORT to birthday reminders and suggestions for the to-do list - are automatically offered with the help of artificial intelligence when they are relevant to the customer. The developers have internally christened these suggestion modules displayed on the zero-layer interface "magic modules".
Here are five use cases. The user can accept or reject the respective suggestion with just one click:
- When approaching a charging station that is enabled for Plug & Charge, the magic module 'Charging' automatically appears. The driver can then start charging immediately.
- If someone always calls one particular friend on the way home on Tuesday evenings, in future they will always receive a suggestion regarding this particular call on this day of the week and at this time. A business card appears with their contact information and ā if this is stored ā their photo. All the suggestions from MBUX are linked with the profile of the user. If someone else is driving the EQS SUV on a Tuesday evening, this recommendation will not be made - or another one will be made, depending on the preferences of the other user.
- If the driver regularly uses the hot stone massage function in winter, the system learns and automatically suggests the comfort function for winter temperatures.
- If the user regularly switches on the heating of the steering wheel in addition to the seat heating, for example, this is suggested to them as soon as they activate the seat heating.
- The chassis of the EQS SUV can be raised to provide more ground clearance. A useful function for steep driveways or speed bumps. MBUX remembers the GPS position where the user has made utilized the "Raise Vehicle" function. If the vehicle approaches this GPS position again, MBUX automatically suggests raising the EQS SUV.
The EQS SUV features the latest MBUX generation. As standard, the EQS 450+ is equipped with a 12.3-inch driver's display and a 12.8-inch central display in portrait orientation. The impressive MBUX Hyperscreen is available as an option. There, the front passenger also has their own screen.
Hey Mercedes: the voice assistant can now do even more
Compared with the previous MBUX generation, the "Hey Mercedes" voice assistant is even more capable of dialogue and learning through activating online services in the Mercedes me App2. Moreover, certain actions can be performed even without the activation keyword "Hey Mercedes". These include accepting a telephone call. "Hey Mercedes" now also explains vehicle functions, and can help when asked how to connect a smartphone by Bluetooth or where the first-aid kit can be found. Compatible home technology and household devices can also be networked with the vehicle thanks to the smart home function and controlled from the vehicle through MBUX. Once the individual characteristics of the voice have been learned, this can be used to access personal data and functions by activating a profile.
The voice assistant in the EQS SUV can also be operated from the backseat. In general, backseat passengers experience the same comprehensive infotainment and comfort offerings as the driver and front passenger. They have the option for up to two rear-seat screens plus a tablet and a wide range of intuitive controls.
MBUX High-End Rear Seat Entertainment Plus: providing front row comfort
Screen content can be quickly and easily shared with other passengers. Selection and modification of navigation destinations also is possible from the rear seats. MBUX High-End Rear Seat Entertainment Plus comprises two 11.6-inch displays with touch controls on the backrests of the driver and front passenger seats. The MBUX rear tablet is also optionally available. It is a fully fledged tablet and can also be used outside the vehicle. In addition, (Android) apps can be installed. With this convenient remote control, all rear seat entertainment functions can be comfortably controlled from any seat position.
Using cameras in the overhead control panel and learning algorithms, the MBUX Interior Assistant recognizes and anticipates the wishes and intentions of the occupants. It interprets which way the head points, hand movements and body language and reacts with appropriate vehicle functions. As well as enhancing operating convenience, the MBUX Interior Assistant improves safety. If it is switched on, the vehicle exit warning of Blind Spot Assist is already issued when a hand approaches the door handle. It can also detect a child seat on the front passenger seat and signal on the central display if the vehicle seat belt is not buckled.
Dolby AtmosĀ®: Close to the real live music experience
The standard Dolby Atmos immersive sound systemĀ® takes the audio experience in the EQS SUV to a new level. Individual instruments or voices of the studio mix can be placed all around the listening area. A new kind of sound animation thus becomes possible: This is because while conventional stereo systems usually have a left-right dynamic, Dolby AtmosĀ® can use the entire area and create a 360-degree experience.
Dolby AtmosĀ® is offered with the BurmesterĀ® surround sound system, which has 15 speakers.
Online music: music streaming with millions of songs to choose from
Mercedes-Benz has completely integrated many music streaming providers into the MBUX infotainment system with the "Online Music"3 service. MBUX enables access to the personal user profile at the linked music providers. This allows customers to seamlessly access their favorite songs and playlists and discover millions of songs as well as curated playlists. Operation is intuitive using the MBUX voice assistant via "Hey Mercedes" and via touch controls on the steering wheel or central display.
Personalization is simple and convenient
A personal profile can be created directly in the EQS SUV and synchronized with existing profile data in the Mercedes me account. By scanning a QR code with the Mercedes me App, the vehicle is automatically connected to the Mercedes me account.
Personal preferences such as a favorite radio station and preselected settings can be transferred to any seat via the personal Mercedes me profile. Up to seven different profiles with a total of around 800 parameters are possible in the vehicle. The ambient lighting can be individually set by remote configuration, i.e. from home. As the profiles are stored in the cloud as part of Mercedes me, the profiles can also be used in other Mercedes-Benz vehicles with the new MBUX generation.
In addition to the classic entry of a PIN, a special authentication procedure ensures a high level of security. Fingerprint, face and voice recognition are combined. This allows access to individual settings or verification of digital payment processes from the vehicle.
2 To use the Mercedes me connect services, customers must create a Mercedes me ID and agree to the terms of use for the Mercedes me connect services. The services shown and their availability and functionalities depend in particular on the vehicle model, year of manufacture, selected special equipment and country.
3 In order to be able to use the Online Music service, customers will require a separate personal contract with a selected streaming provider.
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The EQS SUV: Redefined SUV luxury
With the luxury sedan EQS and the sporty executive sedan EQE, Mercedes-Benz has entered a new, all- electric era in the upper market segments as well.
equanimous
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Thats because the SUV is full of golf clubs. Puttering along and not driving right.
This is a Google translate of an article in German that Perhaps posted on the Mercedes thread. I have brought it over here because of how it refers to Nvidia and Brainchip almost as if they are partnered in some way. Was Rob Telson being a teller of fortune when he said in his recent interview that Brainchip did not see Nvidia as a competitor but more of a partner in the future.
How is this Guzzi for getting the word out to the country side. LOL
My opinion only DYOR (and produce a better translation please)
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AKIDA BALLISTA
https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Auto...XX-mit-mehr-als-1000-km-Reichweite-1393211/2/
Mercedes Vision EQXX as a technology carrier with brain chip and Nvidia
SOURCE: DAIMLER AG
04/14/2022 at 7:21 p.m by Claus Ludewig - Inside the Vision EQXX there is a new infotainment system with AI technology from Brainchip and Nvidia.
Bamboo fiber and vegan leather in the interior of the Mercedes Vision EQXX
The role of the technology leader is also evident in the interior. All carpets are made from 100 percent bamboo fibers. Pulverized cactus fibers in combination with a bio-based polyurethane matrix form the vegan leather alternative Deserttex. The artificial leather Mylo, which is also used, is made from mushrooms, more precisely from mycelium. The material mix is completed by the well-known synthetic leather Dinamica, which in the concept vehicle consists of 38 percent recycled PET bottles.
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The infotainment system, which runs on an 8K screen with mini-LED technology and a screen diagonal of 47.5 inches, is also completely new. Passengers can talk to the avatar, who acts as a tour guide. Inspired by the otherconcept car Mercedes Vision AVTRThe Vision EQXX also uses artificial intelligence to control air conditioning etc. Information should only be sent when the received signals reach certain threshold values. The Hey Mercedes voice control should consume significantly less power than previous MBUX systems. To this end, the Baden-WĆ¼rttemberg company is working together with the Californian company Brainchip and Nvidia. Brainchip provides the Akida hardware and software, which is 1.2 million neurons per SoC, distributed across an80 NPU chipset that is being built in 28 nm at contract manufacturer TSMC. Nvidia, in turn, delivers the
Geforce RTX 3080 with theOrin SoC based on the Ampere architecture& Co. continues to be the driving force behind future MBUX generations and is developing the MBUX operating system and autonomous driving functions together with Mercedes.
From 2025 there will only be new Mercedes models as electric cars
Although Mercedes recently announced on July 22, 2021 that it wouldonly bring fully electric platforms for cars and vans onto the market from 2025, Mercedes intends to continue building and selling the cars with combustion engines that have been on the market by then as long as they do there is a demand. The Group is preparing for the fact that there will be regional differences.
From 2024, all compact models of the A/CLA/GLA and B/GLB series that are newly launched on the market will be based on the Mercedes Modular Architecture platform. The MMA platform can be used for both e-cars and automobiles with a transversely mounted 4-cylinder engine. Mercedes will develop the combustion engines for the MMA vehicles with the Chinese car manufacturer Geely, with whom the Swabians are already working on theSmart #1 electric car, in order to save costs in both cases. The e-car versions of MMA should - at least in part - rely on inexpensive LFP batteries, which can withstand more charging cycles than conventional lithium-ion batteries, but are more sensitive to winter temperatures. From 2025, all Mercedes luxury-class vehicles will be based on the MB.EA electric car platform without an LFP battery, so that from this point onwards, for example, a new edition of the E-Class will only be fully electric. The counterpart with a combustion engine will continue to be built after 2025 based on the MRA rear-wheel drive architecture and will probably receive several facelifts. In the summer of 2021, I was able to put the currentW213 series to an everyday test as a diesel plug-in hybrid
Hi @Perhaps , FF,
" it refers to Nvidia and Brainchip almost as if they are partnered in some way. Was Rob Telson being a teller of fortune when he said in his recent interview that Brainchip did not see Nvidia as a competitor but more of a partner in the future."
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The Hey Mercedes voice control should consume significantly less power than previous MBUX systems. To this end, the Baden-WĆ¼rttemberg company is working together with the Californian company Brainchip and Nvidia. Brainchip provides the Akida hardware and software, which is 1.2 million neurons per SoC, distributed across an
80 NPU chipset that is being built in 28 nm at contract manufacturer TSMC.
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80 NPUs is the full Akida 1000 SoC.
Voice recognition uses less than 20% of Akida's 80 NPUs.
Following the link from Orin Soc, Nvidia has been the Mercedes ADAS partner since 2020:
https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Wirt...Nvidia-Drive-und-Ampere-bei-Mercedes-1352849/
24.06.2020 at 12:44 pm by Claus Ludewig - Nvidia is the official partner of Mercedes in terms of automated driving. From 2024, the already existing cooperation between the two companies will be expanded, so that Nvidia will take care of software and hardware.
Again and again one reads of serious accidents with self-driving vehicles. The development is complicated, so that some companies merge. From 2024, every newly delivered Mercedes will have the system called Nvidia Drive, as Nvidia and Daimler announce. The SoC called Orin is based on the Ampere architecture and includes, for example, a system software stack for AI applications. For example, Mercedes-Benz and Nvidia want to jointly develop automated driving functions that work according to SAE level 3 or include an automated parking function according to level 4.
Nvidia Ampere will allow Mercedes to drive automatically from 2024
The Association of Automotive Engineers SAE has defined in five levels what semi-autonomous and autonomous driving is. Currently, there are no vehicles that support Level 5. Not a single manufacturer speaks of Level 5 anymore, as this refers to autonomous driving without a control unit, which must work worldwide on all roads and under all environmental conditions. But this is probably impossible, as the head of Google's Waymo department admits. Maximum Level 4 is being tested in selected test vehicles. Thus, these Level 4 vehicles - also called fully autonomous driving - can drive independently, but only in a limited area, such as in a parking garage or within a region. In Germany, for example, however, only a maximum of Level 2 is currently legally permitted, as Tesla's Autopilot currently offers or BMW and Mercedes in some current models....
Nvidia supplies hardware and software for Mercedes with Nvidia Drive platform
Not only local computing power is required for automated driving functions, but also the software is crucial. By means of pattern recognition and deep learning, manufacturers are trying to develop software that can orient itself independently and ultimately drive automatically. Nvidia will not only develop the hardware for the systems in the car for Mercedes, but will also take care of updates to the software via over-the-air update. The new hardware is to be introduced in all Mercedes-Benz model series from 2024.So in 2022, we see that BrainChip is working with MB & Nvidiaon the ADAS system.
Was it Nvidia who, about the time of the ARM kerfuffle, said they were not going to reinvent the AI wheel, but would license in or buy tech they could not produce in-house?
Not an official partner (yet).
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/self-driving-cars/adas/
You have to select the MBUX option ...
Bloodsy
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Interesting Vehicle reveal from Mercedesā, I thought there was going to be more lol. Anyway despite no specific mention, I personally think the door is still open for Akida to be onboard.
This article gives a bit more info on the MBUX system especially under the heading āit will come to know youā
Anyone remember Rob Telson banging on about personalisation in the vehicle?
https://www.carscoops.com/2022/04/2...ks-like-the-new-all-electric-luxury-suv-king/
Another snippet from the live stream
Behind all of these useful features is one simple strategic principle: We want to lead in car software because we want a Mercedes to constantly learn.
We also want it to gain flexibility in catering to our customersā individual needs.
All sounds like our favourite AI.
Finally, the vehicle will be available in the second half of 2022 and early 2023 in Ausā¦ā¦ werenāt we told that revenue would be materialising in the second half of this year?
Prepared for the worst (no Akida) but hoping for the best!!
The 1000 eyes are on the hunt
This article gives a bit more info on the MBUX system especially under the heading āit will come to know youā
Anyone remember Rob Telson banging on about personalisation in the vehicle?
https://www.carscoops.com/2022/04/2...ks-like-the-new-all-electric-luxury-suv-king/
Another snippet from the live stream
Behind all of these useful features is one simple strategic principle: We want to lead in car software because we want a Mercedes to constantly learn.
We also want it to gain flexibility in catering to our customersā individual needs.
All sounds like our favourite AI.
Finally, the vehicle will be available in the second half of 2022 and early 2023 in Ausā¦ā¦ werenāt we told that revenue would be materialising in the second half of this year?
Prepared for the worst (no Akida) but hoping for the best!!
The 1000 eyes are on the hunt
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