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[Schnitzel lover]

You think part of the lack of adoption is to do with that some companies have already made deep investments in developing other tech and want to see a return on that to save face before turning a new leaf and looking at other options?

Unrelated but interesting.
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Mineralogy meets zero-shot computer vision

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Yeah I think it’s an age old problem that is confronting BRN.

Rob, Antonio and Sean are obviously feverishly working at trying to fast track their contacts and connections to work this challenge and build the Ecosystem and make it the ecosystems benefit to adopt..

 

[Bravo]

Crikey! An extract from the Financial Times today.

SoftBank seeks to build investment war chest on back of Arm IPO

Masayoshi Son could use up to $65bn to launch tech spending ‘counteroffensive’, analysts estimate

www.ft.com

 

[Diogenese]

There are a few things that really boost my confidence when thinking about Qualcomm and they are, in no particular order:

• Teksun had an existing ecosystem partnership with Qualcomm and yet they still chose to partner with us, presumably because we can offer technological capabilities that Qualcomm isn't in a position to provide. This is what Brijesh Kamani (Founder & CEO of Teksun) said at the time.

“We realized very early on in our partnership the advantages of BrainChip’s Neuromorphic architecture and its efficient performance with low power consumption,” said Brijesh Kamani – Founder & CEO of Teksun. “But apart from these capabilities which make BrainChip’s Akida critical for our current and future customers, it is the ease of adoption that enables them to move rapidly from concept to solution.

• In a similar vein, we know that Mercedes also works with Qualcomm but decided to announce publicly the employment of our technology within the Vision EQXX concept car with its emphasis on intuition, perception and real-time prediction and with confirmation that this technology will be employed in production versions. Interstingly Google will be deeply integrated within the Mercedes user interface. (UI/UX), the same place where the "Hey Mercedes" voice assistant resides, with hot word detection made 5-10 times more efficient than conventional voice control thanks to AKIDA. Here's some of what Mercedes had to say in January 2022.

“Working with California-based artificial intelligence experts BrainChip, Mercedes-Benz engineers developed systems based on BrainChip’s Akida hardware and software,” Mercedes noted in a statement describing the Vision EQXX.

“Although neuromorphic computing is still in its infancy, systems like these will be available on the market in just a few years,” Mercedes said. “When applied at scale throughout a vehicle, they have the potential to radically reduce the energy needed to run the latest AI technologies.”

• Then there's Prophesee and I doubt you could get a better endorsement of our technology that those given in the past by Luca Verre and they have agreed to a multi-year collaboration with Qualcomm. So, hopefully, we'll go wherever Prophesee goes.

We have partnered with BrainChip the world's first commercial producer of neuromorphic AI IP, to deliver next-generation platforms for OEMs looking to integrate PROPHESEE event-based vision sensors systems with high levels of AI performance coupled with ultra-low power technologies. One more step toward the fulfilment of our neuromorphic vision! - Luca Verre LinkedIn

There's probably a few more things I could have added but that's hopefully enough to demonstrate my point for now.

 

[Bravo]

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[Diogenese]

There are a few things that really boost my confidence when thinking about Qualcomm and they are, in no particular order:

• Teksun had an existing ecosystem partnership with Qualcomm and yet they still chose to partner with us, presumably because we can offer technological capabilities that Qualcomm isn't in a position to provide. This is what Brijesh Kamani (Founder & CEO of Teksun) said at the time.

“We realized very early on in our partnership the advantages of BrainChip’s Neuromorphic architecture and its efficient performance with low power consumption,” said Brijesh Kamani – Founder & CEO of Teksun. “But apart from these capabilities which make BrainChip’s Akida critical for our current and future customers, it is the ease of adoption that enables them to move rapidly from concept to solution.

• In a similar vein, we know that Mercedes also works with Qualcomm but decided to announce publicly the employment of our technology within the Vision EQXX concept car with its emphasis on intuition, perception and real-time prediction and with confirmation that this technology will be employed in production versions. Interstingly Google will be deeply integrated within the Mercedes user interface. (UI/UX), the same place where the "Hey Mercedes" voice assistant resides, with hot word detection made 5-10 times more efficient than conventional voice control thanks to AKIDA. Here's some of what Mercedes had to say in January 2022.

“Working with California-based artificial intelligence experts BrainChip, Mercedes-Benz engineers developed systems based on BrainChip’s Akida hardware and software,” Mercedes noted in a statement describing the Vision EQXX.

“Although neuromorphic computing is still in its infancy, systems like these will be available on the market in just a few years,” Mercedes said. “When applied at scale throughout a vehicle, they have the potential to radically reduce the energy needed to run the latest AI technologies.”

• Then there's Prophesee and I doubt you could get a better endorsement of our technology that those given in the past by Luca Verre and they have agreed to a multi-year collaboration with Qualcomm. So, hopefully, we'll go wherever Prophesee goes.

We have partnered with BrainChip the world's first commercial producer of neuromorphic AI IP, to deliver next-generation platforms for OEMs looking to integrate PROPHESEE event-based vision sensors systems with high levels of AI performance coupled with ultra-low power technologies. One more step toward the fulfilment of our neuromorphic vision! - Luca Verre LinkedIn

There's probably a few more things I could have added but that's hopefully enough to demonstrate my point for now.

There's hearsay and there's heresy, and Qualcomm ain't hearsay.

 

[Bravo]

There's hearsay and there's heresy, and Qualcomm ain't hearsay.

If I had a dollar for every time I've been sent to the naughty corner, I'd be disgustingly wealthy.

 

[Cartagena]

The same issue in the energy space.

There’s technology available to supercede oil, gas, coal, and wind generated power, and has been since the mid 1900s.

Unfortunately it’s not whether the technology is good. It’s whether it gets adopted.

BRN clearly have the lead in the AI Edge space, but they are busting every valve to try to get it used and adopted, which is the ultimate challenge in my view..

They probably need to get the right powerful people invested in BRN to then get it the adoption that would make it ubiquitous.. IMO DYOR

Yes Schnitzel Lover, that's what I mentioned earlier. ARM or Qualcomm as large cornerstone investors would do it. Less reliance on LDA capital and getting our technology to market quicker.

Qualcomm are very close to launching their "edge AI" in smart phones however it makes us wonder how they have managed to develop and commercialise it so quickly.

We all know they have the huge resources and R&D as a Big 5 tech giant, and Brainchip will benefit immensely if they develop a joint venture with eg, Qualcomm or ARM or Samsung to use our Akida IP in future products. Our SP won't be under $10 if that happens!!!!

My only question is if Brainchip sells an IP license to a customer, there should be a clear clause in the contract that the end product must contain the Brainchip IP. This would eliminate companies who are not ready or not serious in using our IP in an end product. I'm not very familiar with how this works so would appreciate someone who is more competent in this area to provide insight.

I am optimistic that patents are there to provide a very good security blanket on our IP and prevent other large, more powerful companies advancing their own IP technology at the expense of our IP and our potential revenues.

Bottom line here is business needs to also be on Brainchip's terms in relation to selling the IP license and contract.

 

[Fullmoonfever]

For those with time and want to track telecommunications / RF approvals, grants etc then you can use these couple of sites.

Quite a bit there however there are NDA / Confidential conditions on some of the info submitted so may not expect to see some named references or maybe will.

Generally has submission docs, test reports, external and internal images etc.

Couple screen shots and links.

Can search players like Valeo, Renesas, Megachips or others that operate in that space with date ranges etc.

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearchResult.cfm?RequestTimeout=500

https://device.report/Valeo/

 

[Techinvestor17]

Just putting it out there. But just watched the TENNs video out by brainchip I think they highlighted the main reason we are where we are. "Generations ahead of the industry". What we have seems magical, but does the industry need it today? It seems it will come, but is it a case that we are too far ahead and the industry is saying we don't need to invent the wheel again just yet. I think we need Megachips or the like to come out with something so needed that others must follow. Yes the cloud is getting busy, but are we providing a solution not needed yet? Just a few thoughts, but maybe I'm not understanding enough, maybe the need is now?

Not sure if you have seen but NVIDIA’s 45% profit margin is a cost to everyone else. There is an immediate demand to reduce power consumption/compute requirements and therefore operating costs.

 

[IloveLamp]

@Diogenese this is one for you mate. Looks and sounds like Akida but is it?

https://www.nordicsemi.com/News/202...160-in-the-Vodafone-Asset-Solar-asset-tracker

Thanks to Daniel on one of the Facebook group chats for finding this

With Vodafone involved, chances are above average imo

 

[Foxdog]

Well Foxdog, I know that if I invested in a Company ( which I do, BRN of course ) I would be pretty happy that little Company from Perth has achieved to put its chip on the moon, even though we would have paid a lot of the cost. I for one stocked that first the chip works and other Companies will get to know about it, which should lead to more revenue in the future. Anyway, that is what I think, but what would I know.
All we want now is the share price to rocketed to the moon.

Yeah I totally agree sb. My original comment was a bit 'tongue in cheek' anyway but some seemed to miss the humour. I'm still not convinced that we are in this project though. If we are then it'd be nice to actually be told that we are wouldn't it, otherwise how will we or other companies ever find out? See, it's ok to get no news and have the growing revenue speak for itself, or no revenue but news of pending/actual commercial applications. The concern here is that we are getting neither revenue or news.

 

[Diogenese]

@Diogenese this is one for you mate. Looks and sounds like Akida but is it?

https://www.nordicsemi.com/News/202...160-in-the-Vodafone-Asset-Solar-asset-tracker

Thanks to Daniel on one of the Facebook group chats for finding this

Hi AusErie,

I can't see anything to suggest the usual clues: digital SNN, one-shot learning, Brainchip or Akida.

 

[Techinvestor17]

Hi AusErie,

I can't see anything to suggest the usual clues: digital SNN, one-shot learning, Brainchip or Akida.

The only piece that AKIDA might have a key into is that the GPS only turns on when the accelerometer recognises its moving. To do this you would need the accelerometer to be always on and then process that signal which is what the ARM Cortex M33 is for. I’m not sure you need a SNN to process that and a smaller model could handle it under a power budget to create a “good enough” solution even though it probably could be better.

 

[TheFunkMachine]

Hey Brain Fam,

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I've come to the conclusion that it's 99.999% likely WE ARE ACTUALLY ON THE MOON, LIKE WE ARE LITERALLY (NOT US BUT AKIDA IS) ON THE SOUTH POLE OF THE MOON RIGHT THIS VERY SECOND!!!!

Contrary to the naysayers who reckon that Rob spends most of his days "liking" random blogs about vacuum cleaners and horny goat weed, I happen to believe the opposite and this should prove my case in point. But if I'm wrong about this, then I promise I'll stop posting for two days.

Rob Telson liked Shakeel Perra (Micrchip) Linkedin post congratulating ISRO (Indian Space Research Organisation) on the landing of the Chandrayaan-3 on the Moon's south pole.


Here's Rob's . It's just below Brian Coglan's (Microchip).



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And, here's a couple of extracts from an article which I highlighted which I think helps to explain why Rob likes it so much and hence why I believe WE ARE ON THE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!.

How else is the rover able to learn/ adapt and respond in real-time?


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Chandrayaan 3 touchdown: ISRO monitoring a high-stakes game of AI and sensors for moon landing

What sets this mission apart is the pivotal role of artificial intelligence (AI) in guiding the spacecraft during its critical descent to the moon's surface

www.businesstoday.in

Hi Bravo. As much as I appreciate the enthusiasm and sharing of potential significant information, if the article does not mention Brainchip, Akida, SNN, Neuromorphic, edge computing, or any other key words that would normally qualify for Akida suspicious activity, I would avoid referring to a 99.9% certainty of our engagement. All it does is create false hope and expectation which leads to potential disappointment and emotional rash investor mindset if it fall trough.

I encourage your involvement and find the article interesting but as far as I can see, all we have to go by in the article is Robs Like which is amusing at best.

Please correct me if I have missed some crucial contextual evidence with our engagement to this particular space mission

All the best, Funk

 

[Mt09]

Hi Bravo. As much as I appreciate the enthusiasm and sharing of potential significant information, if the article does not mention Brainchip, Akida, SNN, Neuromorphic, edge computing, or any other key words that would normally qualify for Akida suspicious activity, I would avoid referring to a 99.9% certainty of our engagement. All it does is create false hope and expectation which leads to potential disappointment and emotional rash investor mindset if it fall trough.

I encourage your involvement and find the article interesting but as far as I can see, all we have to go by in the article is Robs Like which is amusing at best.

Please correct me if I have missed some crucial contextual evidence with our engagement to this particular space mission

All the best, Funk

^Someone had to say it…..

 

[IloveLamp]

@Diogenese this is one for you mate. Looks and sounds like Akida but is it?

https://www.nordicsemi.com/News/202...160-in-the-Vodafone-Asset-Solar-asset-tracker

Thanks to Daniel on one of the Facebook group chats for finding this

Artificial Intelligence

We are living in a world with intelligent machines and software agents which can understand and assist us better.

www.vodafone.com

 

[Fenris78]

It looks like we are in the Renesas R-Car Gen 5 system on chip.... planned for 2027. I can't see that Akida 1000/1500 is in R-Car S4 Gen 4?
Is there any evidence that Akida is in anything in the near future? Given Renesas did the 1500 tape out in Dec 2022... I'm hoping that there is a Renesas product planned before 2027.

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Renesas moves away from uncancellable contracts as inventory rises

Renesas Electronics is moving away from the ‘uncancellable contracts’ as it sees inventory rising and flat revenue.

www.eenewseurope.com

To answer my own question (and for anyone else with a poor memory)... a link in which Renesas mentions releasing Cortex M85 MCU's this year:

Renesas to demo working silicon of Arm Cortex-M85-based MCU

Semiconductor manufacturer Renesas Electronics has announced that it will present the first live demonstration of a microcontroller (MCU) based on the recently announced Arm Cortex-M85 processor.

www.eenewseurope.com

 

[CHIPS]

Just putting it out there. But just watched the TENNs video out by brainchip I think they highlighted the main reason we are where we are. "Generations ahead of the industry". What we have seems magical, but does the industry need it today? It seems it will come, but is it a case that we are too far ahead and the industry is saying we don't need to invent the wheel again just yet. I think we need Megachips or the like to come out with something so needed that others must follow. Yes the cloud is getting busy, but are we providing a solution not needed yet? Just a few thoughts, but maybe I'm not understanding enough, maybe the need is now?

Too early to succeed? This happened to other companies before.
AND ... a thought I have been having for a longer while ... maybe AKIDA is too cheap? I mean there is a huge price difference between our chip and the others and maybe this also gives the impression that it can't be good enough just to try. I am wondering why we are so cheap, is there really a need for it?

 

[miaeffect]

To answer my own question (and for anyone else with a poor memory)... a link in which Renesas mentions releasing Cortex M85 MCU's this year:

Renesas to demo working silicon of Arm Cortex-M85-based MCU

Semiconductor manufacturer Renesas Electronics has announced that it will present the first live demonstration of a microcontroller (MCU) based on the recently announced Arm Cortex-M85 processor.

www.eenewseurope.com

w/ Helium perhaps ?

 

[Diogenese]

Too early to succeed? This happened to other companies before.
AND ... a thought I have been having for a longer while ... maybe AKIDA is too cheap? I mean there is a huge price difference between our chip and the others and maybe this also gives the impression that it can't be good enough just to try. I am wondering why we are so cheap, is there really a need for it?

Hi Chips,

Do we know the pricing for Akida 2.

It's performance will be significantly better than Akida 1, so I hope the price will match the improvement.

That way, there will still be a market for Akida 1.