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Mccabe84

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I can't see the SP going anywhere until an application hits the market at commercial scale ie millions in continual royalties. The market has decided we won't believe until we see it.
Market/shorts have decided to keep the price where it is. 2nd half of the year I expect some more action or it might be time for me to reconsider my investment
 
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Yoda

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I can't see the SP going anywhere until an application using Akida IP hits the market at commercial scale ie millions in continual royalties. The market has decided we won't believe until we see it.
Once some sales kick in watch the SP snap back the other way like an elastic band that has been stretched as far as possible. In my opinion, this stock will take off like a bushfire with some revenue and/or another good IP agreement. I'm quite sure it will happen and happy to wait for it. :)
 
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jtardif999

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STMicroelectronics & Lacroix Group were on my radar the other day.

Akida could be in ovens monitoring the fan or in people flow detectors.

Case study 1: AI solution for people counting sensor​

Making buildings smarter is one of the big challenges of today's companies to improve their efficiency. The people flow counting sensor developed by Schneider Electric in partnership with STMicroelectronics enables the counting of the number of people. It also detects whether they are crossing a virtual line in both directions, using a large field of view and a small resolution thermal sensor.

This prototype can count in real-time and with a high level of accuracy the restaurant's attendance, while running on the standard STM32 microcontroller. This is achieved thanks to the artificial intelligence algorithm embedded on the STM32 microcontroller and the use of a thermal infrared technology.

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Case study 2: Low-power predictive maintenance + AI at the Edge​


Lacroix Group and its ecosystem are building the future of industrial electronics, in the design and production of industrial embedded systems and connected objects. At the heart of its smart industry strategy, Lacroix Electronics is now experimenting with predictive maintenance on its own assembly lines with the help of STMicroelectronics and its AI ecosystem.

The first trial of the condition monitoring technology is being done on the reflow oven of an automated line that solders component on PCB boards.

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All those years ago SNAP (Akida’s grand father) was counting cars from a bridge over a California freeway - sparked my initial interest in BrainChip and my continued love for this technology. Now counting people entering a building to conserve energy, beneficial ai hey. 🤓
 
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It is interesting how a group of investors called shorts are not referred to as FCB’s (Future Confirmed Buyers).

Shorts do not own shares in a company after they take their position. A Short or FCB after taking a position has a future obligation to buy in this case Brainchip shares to return them to the lender. They cannot avoid this obligation and in most cases have given security to the lender to guarantee they have the capacity to buy back.

So when a company has FCB’s shareholders know there are guaranteed buyers for their shares if they need to sell.

Yet shareholders worry about FCB’s.

The FACT that FCB’s exist gives rise to panic buying when an event of unexpected origin incites new retail shareholders interest.

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

PS: Obviously ‘the more to come’ over the next couple of weeks has been missed by most.
 
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Hi @Rise from the ashes

Could well be but my memory had power just listed as 3 to 7 watts in a box with columns covering various numbers.

The warning about heat rings a bell but my recollection is it was a single page and had a statement about being kept confidential.

As I have said I tend not to keep a record once I have found what I want and resolved the issue. I know I posted about it at HC at the time but not sure if I was able to copy and paste the document to HC or if I just gave a link.

Your find confirms that if you put Hailo in a case you could generate sufficient heat to poach an egg but then again it might combust or melt first.

PS: Just read pdf and they provide max power use 8.65 watts depending on application. Getting up around Jetson Nano territory.

My opinion only DYOR
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AKIDA BALLISTA
Yes she's definitely fit for central heating purposes.
If I kept all the information gathered regarding this stock and similar companies in paper form I'd have to rent out a large warehouse. I even gave up with storing it electronically as I'm not really great with labelling folders.
One humongous jumble sale of information that I honestly couldn't be stuffed sorting through. .
 
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robsmark

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And there it is, our daily reference to a completely irrelevant WBT sp.
It has every relevance to us:
- a tech stock in the same industry;
- a similar target audience;
- a pre-revenue tech stock on the ASX;
- facing the same “economic headwinds”;
- a similar market cap;
- a less developed company…

Need I go on?
 
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Pappagolla

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And there we have it - back to pre announcement SP.

How the market doesn’t think this is worth money is beyond the joke. WBT now worth $1.4b and we’re sitting at $900m.

Swings and roundabouts. WBT will overshoot and come back, just like BRN did with the Mercedes news. Then the momentum will shift again at some point, probably after an IP license announcement or two. I have a feeling there will be a few “lead changes” between these two over the coming years.
 
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Dhm

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It is interesting how a group of investors called shorts are not referred to as FCB’s (Future Confirmed Buyers).

Shorts do not own shares in a company after they take their position. A Short or FCB after taking a position has a future obligation to buy in this case Brainchip shares to return them to the lender. They cannot avoid this obligation and in most cases have given security to the lender to guarantee they have the capacity to buy back.

So when a company has FCB’s shareholders know there are guaranteed buyers for their shares if they need to sell.

Yet shareholders worry about FCB’s.

The FACT that FCB’s exist gives rise to panic buying when an event of unexpected origin incites new retail shareholders interest.

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

PS: Obviously ‘the more to come’ over the next couple of weeks has been missed by most.
One thing I like about a 'short' position is that when the time is appropriate ie a bullish situation, the shorter may well not only buy back the short position, but also go long as well. So shorters could well buy back and buy in. 2 shares for the price of one.
 
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HopalongPetrovski

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Hi Hoppy,

I'm as much in the dark as everyone else.

One application for E (up to 4 nodes) would be on-sensor SoCs, but I would think that, for Prophesee, we'd need at least the S (up to 8 nodes) or possibly the P (up to 128 nodes), although the full P would be for some really heavy lifting, possibly running several NN model libraries in parallel.

The SiFive thing is, in my opinion, very significant as we now have direct compatibility with their 8-bit X280 Intelligence processor, which, as Fmf has intimated, may be moon-bound, as well as saving Intel's bacon.

SiFive have said Akida 2E is compatible with their Efficiency MCU and P & S are compatible with X280 Intelligence so clearly they have had hands-on experience with the Akida Gen 2 simulation software (or possibly a deep cover FPGA?).

Semantic segmentation is moving well beyond wake-word recognition into the realm of speech recognition/NLP.

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Similarly we are looking at object tracking in silicon, rather than relaying that task to CPU software. So tumbleweeds are in our sights, as are Colt 38 bullets.

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Semantic segmentation is moving well beyond wake-word recognition into the realm of speech recognition/NLP.

We are importing into silicon some further time-and power consuming tasks beyond classification/inference/ML which were previously performed by the CPU.

Hey D.
Thank you very much for your reply.
My problem I guess is that whilst I think I know what these words mean in general terms, I'm probably wildly wrong in how they are applied and just what they make possible in the world of accelerators, cpu's, gpu's and micro electronics.

I understand that in Akida first gen. due to it's neuromorphic architecture, we have a better way of performing tasks that give us much greater efficiency and hence use less power and that it has a type or aspect of intelligence that can somehow extrapolate similarities between objects it has previously "learned" and can, without requiring extensive retraining "learn" and add new objects to its dataset.

Now I just need to get a layman's understanding of what the new attributes embodied by the second generation potentially allow that were not available previously. I think that it may be that whilst gen 1 could handle still images and changes/simularities therein, gen 2 can do something similar with video. In that it now has somewhat more memory and so can comprehend a sequence and somehow intuit or learn/understand a process?
The vision transformers ability seems intriguing given the recent popularity of the Chat GPT but am still trying to wrap my head around just what this newfound capacity makes possible. Thank you for making much of this somewhat more accessible for those of us without technical expertise. You are very much appreciated around here. 😀
 
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One IP Platform, Multiple Configurable Products​




The 2nd generation IP platform will support a very wide range of market verticals and will be delivered in three classes of product.​


Akida-E: Extremely energy-efficient, for always on operation very close to, or at sensors.
Akida-S: Integration into MCU or other general purpose platforms that are used in broad variety of sensor-related applications
Akida-P: Mid-range to higher end configurations with optional vision transformers for ground breaking and yet efficient performance.

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I'm sticking with my belief that I've broken Peter's secret naming code
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a 🦆
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HopalongPetrovski

I'm Spartacus!
I'm sticking with my belief that I've broken Peter's secret naming code
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a 🦆
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Psychic duck

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Mccabe84

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It has every relevance to us:
- a tech stock in the same industry;
- a similar target audience;
- a pre-revenue tech stock on the ASX;
- facing the same “economic headwinds”;
- a similar market cap;
- a less developed company…

Need I go on?
Would it be fair to say that due WBT have less shares on offer then less manipulation would happen?
 
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buena suerte :-)

BOB Bank of Brainchip
As usual Hailo also does not provide actual power consumption numbers.

When I first dug into Hailo could find nothing so asked Peter van der Made and he just dismissed them saying something about how much power they used compared to AKIDA. I was not completely satisfied and kept digging and on a Hailo customers site on their specifications page they had the Hailo spec doc and it’s a while back but what I think I remember was 3 to 7 watts for Hailo 8.

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA
You are right again FF,

I like the way you started that response FF "As usual" :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::love::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::p
 
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Labsy

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Prediction:
Intel licence Brainchip Ip and roll out to market Loihi 3 chip on Risc V architecture, utilising Akida Ip. Built in their own foundry.
We will never know but will be evident in ridiculous, explosive revenue..
 
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Townyj

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Prediction:
Intel licence Brainchip Ip and roll out to market Loihi 3 chip on Risc V architecture, utilising Akida Ip. Built in their own foundry.
We will never know but will be evident in ridiculous, explosive revenue..
Happy The Fresh Prince Of Bel Air GIF


The Dream!
 
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As some seem intent on finding comparisons to rate Brainchip's performance against on the ASX when there are absolutely none I will remind readers both here and in the background of what Steven Leibson of Tirias Research said in his Forbes Magazine article dated 6 March, 2023:

"Brainchip’s bio-inspired Akida platform is certainly an unusual way to tackle AI/ML applications. While most other NPU vendors are figuring out how many MACs they can fit – and power – on the head of a pin, Brainchip is taking an alternative approach that’s been proven by Mother Nature to work over many tens of millions of years.

In Tirias Research’s opinion, it’s not the path taken to the result that’s important, it’s the result that counts. If Brainchip’s Akida event-based platform succeeds, it won’t be the first time that a radical new silicon technology has swept the field. Consider DRAMs (dynamic random access memories), microprocessors, microcontrollers, and FPGAs (field programmable gate arrays), for example. When those devices first appeared, there were many who expressed doubts. No longer. It’s possible that Brainchip has developed yet another breakthrough that could rank with those previous innovations. Time will tell."


Edge Impulse described AKIDA technology as science fiction. A data scientist and Phd candidate described the first generation AKIDA 1000 as a "beast".

Against this background the WANCA's have continued to ask what's a neuromorphic chip anyway, well at least those who can say 'neuromorphic'.

"It’s possible that Brainchip has developed yet another breakthrough that could rank with those previous innovations." Mark these words as they are only directed at AKIDA 2000 not the overall mission which Brainchip has embarked upon of creating Artificial General Intelligence.

Brainchip, Peter van der Made and Anil Mankar are creating an entirely new computing paradigm well beyond anything that exists.

They are on track with the timetable set out by Peter van der Made and with each step are opening up engineering possibilities that have only existed in unfulfilled patents and dreams.

The first and second generation AKIDA technology will create industries that do not yet exist.

Peter van der Made has stated recently that his vision of Artificial General Intelligence will be fulfilled in about 7 years which puts it at 2030.

The enormity of what Artificial General Intelligence means is found in the quote of Bill Gates that the person who invents Artificial General Intelligence will have created a company worth ten times Microsoft. I am not saying that his valuation was or is correct what I am pointing you too is the significance he attaches to what Brainchip and Peter van der Made are pursuing.

The late Stephen Hawking and the still living Elon Musk have both stated that Artificial General Intelligence could lead to the destruction of mankind. There are of course many others who are saying and who have said the same thing.


Now in the overly optimistic hope that the above will be sufficient to shut down the mindless comparisons can anyone here point to a technology company on the ASX that could just by its mere existence lead to the destruction of mankind in seven years time.

Of course not this is why Brainchip is not understood by normal retail investors.

Why it is not understood by WANCA commentators who cannot even say neuromorphic.

Why it is extremely obvious that anyone who persists down this road of comparison either is ignorant of just what Brainchip is doing or has some other motive innocent or otherwise.

My opinion only DYOR
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buena suerte :-)

BOB Bank of Brainchip
As some seem intent on finding comparisons to rate Brainchip's performance against on the ASX when there are absolutely none I will remind readers both here and in the background of what Steven Leibson of Tirias Research said in his Forbes Magazine article dated 6 March, 2023:

"Brainchip’s bio-inspired Akida platform is certainly an unusual way to tackle AI/ML applications. While most other NPU vendors are figuring out how many MACs they can fit – and power – on the head of a pin, Brainchip is taking an alternative approach that’s been proven by Mother Nature to work over many tens of millions of years.

In Tirias Research’s opinion, it’s not the path taken to the result that’s important, it’s the result that counts. If Brainchip’s Akida event-based platform succeeds, it won’t be the first time that a radical new silicon technology has swept the field. Consider DRAMs (dynamic random access memories), microprocessors, microcontrollers, and FPGAs (field programmable gate arrays), for example. When those devices first appeared, there were many who expressed doubts. No longer. It’s possible that Brainchip has developed yet another breakthrough that could rank with those previous innovations. Time will tell."


Edge Impulse described AKIDA technology as science fiction. A data scientist and Phd candidate described the first generation AKIDA 1000 as a "beast".

Against this background the WANCA's have continued to ask what's a neuromorphic chip anyway, well at least those who can say 'neuromorphic'.

"It’s possible that Brainchip has developed yet another breakthrough that could rank with those previous innovations." Mark these words as they are only directed at AKIDA 2000 not the overall mission which Brainchip has embarked upon of creating Artificial General Intelligence.

Brainchip, Peter van der Made and Anil Mankar are creating an entirely new computing paradigm well beyond anything that exists.

They are on track with the timetable set out by Peter van der Made and with each step are opening up engineering possibilities that have only existed in unfulfilled patents and dreams.

The first and second generation AKIDA technology will create industries that do not yet exist.

Peter van der Made has stated recently that his vision of Artificial General Intelligence will be fulfilled in about 7 years which puts it at 2030.

The enormity of what Artificial General Intelligence means is found in the quote of Bill Gates that the person who invents Artificial General Intelligence will have created a company worth ten times Microsoft. I am not saying that his valuation was or is correct what I am pointing you too is the significance he attaches to what Brainchip and Peter van der Made are pursuing.

The late Stephen Hawking and the still living Elon Musk have both stated that Artificial General Intelligence could lead to the destruction of mankind. There are of course many others who are saying and who have said the same thing.


Now in the overly optimistic hope that the above will be sufficient to shut down the mindless comparisons can anyone here point to a technology company on the ASX that could just by its mere existence lead to the destruction of mankind in seven years time.

Of course not this is why Brainchip is not understood by normal retail investors.

Why it is not understood by WANCA commentators who cannot even say neuromorphic.

Why it is extremely obvious that anyone who persists down this road of comparison either is ignorant of just what Brainchip is doing or has some other motive innocent or otherwise.

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA




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Diogenese

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Hey D.
Thank you very much for your reply.
My problem I guess is that whilst I think I know what these words mean in general terms, I'm probably wildly wrong in how they are applied and just what they make possible in the world of accelerators, cpu's, gpu's and micro electronics.

I understand that in Akida first gen. due to it's neuromorphic architecture, we have a better way of performing tasks that give us much greater efficiency and hence use less power and that it has a type or aspect of intelligence that can somehow extrapolate similarities between objects it has previously "learned" and can, without requiring extensive retraining "learn" and add new objects to its dataset.

Now I just need to get a layman's understanding of what the new attributes embodied by the second generation potentially allow that were not available previously. I think that it may be that whilst gen 1 could handle still images and changes/simularities therein, gen 2 can do something similar with video. In that it now has somewhat more memory and so can comprehend a sequence and somehow intuit or learn/understand a process?
The vision transformers ability seems intriguing given the recent popularity of the Chat GPT but am still trying to wrap my head around just what this newfound capacity makes possible. Thank you for making much of this somewhat more accessible for those of us without technical expertise. You are very much appreciated around here. 😀
Hi Hoppy,

AKD1 can identify objects in individual frames of video with their position.

It passes this information to the CPU which can then track the movement of the object.

AKD2 has additional storage to store a sequence of frames with the tracked images and locations so it can track movement.

Similarly with words/sentences/pargraphs.

Doing it in silicon is much faster and less energy intensive.

Until I see the Gen 2 patent, I'm guessing how it does this, but I have a vague idea which I won't disclose here because:
A. It's probably wrong;
B. It may be patentable.
 
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ndefries

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My understanding of AGI is that the technology is able to interact with an environment, encounter obstacles and problems and solve them while potentially storing the skill set. I assume this means literally any problem. We know Akida can sense and now make sense of a sequence of events that are stored and actioned on the chip. It's ability to seek answers and then carry out tasks and keep that loop going would make me think OpenAi and Microsoft and robotics companies would be great partners. If this thing was low and solar powered it would be a everliving beast. Science fiction almost.
 
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rgupta

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It is interesting how a group of investors called shorts are not referred to as FCB’s (Future Confirmed Buyers).

Shorts do not own shares in a company after they take their position. A Short or FCB after taking a position has a future obligation to buy in this case Brainchip shares to return them to the lender. They cannot avoid this obligation and in most cases have given security to the lender to guarantee they have the capacity to buy back.

So when a company has FCB’s shareholders know there are guaranteed buyers for their shares if they need to sell.

Yet shareholders worry about FCB’s.

The FACT that FCB’s exist gives rise to panic buying when an event of unexpected origin incites new retail shareholders interest.

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

PS: Obviously ‘the more to come’ over the next couple of weeks has been missed by most.
I am 100% there with you and that is why I assume the shorts had given us an opportunity to top up
There are chances investors may not be patient and sell low and give benefit to shorters to cover.
But on the other side a good news can roast shorter in the oven. And looking at brn history it will take a lot of money to buy that 130 million shorts quickly.
 
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